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johnathon78
Dec 27, 2004, 6:38 PM
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I was looking to buy a device for stick clipping and was wondering what other products out there were worth looking at. I currently have my eyes set on the Trango Squid. Any suggestions?
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petsfed
Dec 27, 2004, 7:57 PM
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The Squid is finicky at best. Check out the Stick Clips section of the gear guide for more info.
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alderak
Dec 27, 2004, 8:12 PM
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can't you just build one out of a telescoping pole and a cheap clamp? guess if you want to remove draws, that is a different story. good luck
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sportyclimber
Aug 23, 2005, 12:25 AM
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If you have to stick clip the first or first couple bolts, then you shouldn't do the climb! cheating
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smithrockfreek
Aug 23, 2005, 12:29 AM
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at smith stick clips are excepeted but pretty much everywhere else you will get shot, i recoment a tent pole from goodwill with a taped on clamp
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kranked
Aug 23, 2005, 12:32 AM
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I have been using a Squid for about a year now and it's awesome. Being a feeble weak climber, it has allowed me to get past cruxy sections, put the 1st draw on scary high clips and dog my way easliy up climbs. They are very handy with a long extendable painter's pole. I have one that extends to 3.6m. This is very helpful is you have a dodgy 2nd clip. You can take the draws on and off and clip the rope into a draw that's on already. I can do this with a stick too, but the squid is quicker and much easier. Niiiice :D Get on it, they are awesome!
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mattq331
Aug 23, 2005, 12:36 AM
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My climbing partner turned up with a Epic Stick Clip on a 9ft pole this last weekend - worked a treat. One drawback was the flexibility of the pole - if you try to clip a bolt up and to one side, it can be a real pain to stop it from bending. Using it vertically was fine though. Cheers to courage on a stick! Oh, and a solid gold FU to the clip stick critics. :wink:
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mhh35
Aug 23, 2005, 1:21 AM
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I'm using a Grappler practice and practice Before going out kids and I go out Chip the first bolt just to be safe
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moss1956
Aug 23, 2005, 2:22 AM
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I started out with a big black plastic spring clamp held onto the end of a painter's pole held on by radiator clamps and duct tape. It worked and it was cheap. I bought a trango squid and put it on the same painters pole and never looked back. Its great. I can clip with it, unclip with it, rehang the rope, and pull the rope down past the first draw to lead the climb again. Like any piece of gear it takes some practice before you are proficient at using it.
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dlh
Aug 23, 2005, 3:04 AM
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In reply to: If you have to stick clip the first or first couple bolts, then you shouldn't do the climb! cheating "first or first couple bolts"??? Sometimes you have to stickclip up the whole climb. So, get a collapsbile stickclip so that you can hook it onto your harness and go a stick clippin' right on up to the anchor!
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straightedge
Aug 23, 2005, 4:09 AM
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I have both the Epic stick clip and Trango Squid. But the best stick clip, best design, most durable, holds the biner securely, is the Superclip made by Rock Climbing Tools (http://www.rockclimbingtools.com). It works very well for both clipping and retrieving, you can use it to put the rope in a draw hanging from a bolt same as the Squid, and the design is ultra simple and durable. You'll quit climbing before it breaks. It works with super skinny ropes (down to near 8 mm) too. When I can afford it, I'll get one. And as far as using a stick clip goes, it is totally legit on a sport climb. I design a lot of my sport routes to require the use of a stick clip - it reduces the amount of fixed gear stuck to the wall, it gets the bolt and hanger up high enough that they are very hard to steal from the ground, and I'd much sooner stick clip the first bolt then spend 6 weeks recovering from a broken ankle. Don't want to use a stick clip? Fine. Want to use a stick clip? Fine.
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