3 is pretty close to 3.14. What do you want the Bible to do, list every digit in Pi before you'll call it Divine? Can we stop somewhere? 3.14159, or is 3.1416 OK? Pi is 3 if you're calculating from numbers with only one significant figure, which we are, so this isn't the best example to try to discredit the Bible.

Hey, The Mayans, Greeks, Babylonians, Indus Valley Civilization, Romans, Sumerians, etc. all were alot more accurate in their calculation of Pi.

My point is that fundamentalist christians believe that the world was created in 6 days and God rested on the 7th. They don't believe in a 5 day 23 hr creation. They don't believe in a 6 day 5 minute creation. They don't believe that, for a supreme being, a day may mean 1 billion years. They believe that the Bible is infallible. A world where a circle with a 1m diameter has a 3 m circumference. I used this tongue in cheek example to show that the Bible cannot be a basis for science.

I don’t want to get into the science debate that is going on because I don’t know enough about that. But I know that you are reading the creation story wrong. You are reading it with a western perspective. The problem with this is the Hebrew bible was NOT written for you. It was written for ancient Jewish and Arabic people and you need to read it in there context. The writing style is more poetic than a historical documentation of events. Each day is a build up until humans are created. I fully believe that God created everything in this beautiful creation. God is not bound by time like we are, and if you actually read the Old Testament you will see it takes hundreds of years before you see major action from God in a lot of areas. The Israelites were enslaved in Egypt for a few hundred years before God raised up Moses to bring them out, and it took somewhere around 400 years before God punished Israel for being unfaithful to there covenant with God. So God works at his own time don’t put him in a box.
The world we live in is so beautiful and perfectly created that is proof enough for me that there must be a creator. The world has an order to it which I believe God ordained. There are so many miracles in this world everyday that I can not just look past. So no amount of scientific studies or whatever will change my mind on the matter. Thanks for trying I enjoy the discussion.

Insert wise ass remark here about how suprising it is that a creationist is not well versed in science.

What are you're credentials, Bozo, clown college?

Insert wise ass remark here about how suprising it is that a creationist is not well versed in science.

Is the belief in creationism a part of the reason for the lack of knowlege? (This is meant as a real question)

Well, if you already "know" how things are, why study anything that you "know" to be wrong?

No, I'm a mime.

I don’t want to get into the science debate that is going on because I don’t know enough about that. But I know that you are reading the creation story wrong. You are reading it with a western perspective. The problem with this is the Hebrew bible was NOT written for you. It was written for ancient Jewish and Arabic people and you need to read it in there context. The writing style is more poetic than a historical documentation of events. Each day is a build up until humans are created. I fully believe that God created everything in this beautiful creation. God is not bound by time like we are, and if you actually read the Old Testament you will see it takes hundreds of years before you see major action from God in a lot of areas. The Israelites were enslaved in Egypt for a few hundred years before God raised up Moses to bring them out, and it took somewhere around 400 years before God punished Israel for being unfaithful to there covenant with God. So God works at his own time don’t put him in a box.
The world we live in is so beautiful and perfectly created that is proof enough for me that there must be a creator. The world has an order to it which I believe God ordained. There are so many miracles in this world everyday that I can not just look past. So no amount of scientific studies or whatever will change my mind on the matter. Thanks for trying I enjoy the discussion.

I understand your perspective and respect it. I agree that the Bible is allegorical in many areas. However there are fundamentalist christians who want the bible taught as literal truth. If your personal beliefs are that God created the world and that all scientific discoveries merely show the mechanism of how God accomplished this feat, I have no problem with it. But if you start denying scientific facts because it contradicts what was written in a book 2200 years ago, You are going to lose my respect. And if you start insisting that these easily disprovable beliefs should be taught in a school as scientific facts, I am whole heartedly against you.

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Go ahead, use 3 for pi, by all means. Your enterprize based on pi = 3 will fail. This will happen because your god has tested you, and you have failed his test.

I understand what you are saying too. I am not going to deny anything about science, and I think that schools can teach whatever they think is best, just as long as they don’t force anything on people so everyone can chose there own beliefs.

I hope this explains why I think carbon dating is poop.