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woodpecker
Aug 22, 2006, 1:39 PM
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I thought I'd start this thread instead of hijacking the "knots for TR'ing" thread.
In the market for my first rope. Only top-roping......looking for advice from the pro's.
Send the info or the flames....I can take it. :lol:
Billy
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dleighto
Aug 22, 2006, 1:46 PM
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I would personally go with a rope that had a diameter of 10.5 or 11mm. For top roping this will provide you with a rope that has good abrasion resistance. The dry treatment ropes are also nice (but not critically necessary) for the little bit of extra money. You probably don't need to spend more than $150.
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dutyje
Aug 22, 2006, 3:19 PM
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Here's another vote for the BlueWater Accelerator. That's an excellent first rope. I think pretty much anything in the 10 - 10.5mm diameter will treat you very well. You can find some great deals on the Edelweiss Axis 10.3 mm rope these days. Also, the Beal Edlinger II (10.2mm) can be found very cheap, and has the nice feature of a marked middle.
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microbarn
Aug 22, 2006, 3:29 PM
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If this is ONLY a TR rope and you know there is no other uses, I highly recommend static rope of about 8-9 mm diameter.
1)more durable
2)cheaper
3)when you develop it still could be cut up for other uses
4)when hang-dogging as is normally the case on TR, no stretch and loss of ground
5)it will be lighter because of the smaller diameter
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slacklinejoe
Aug 22, 2006, 8:57 PM
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An abrasion resistant rope for TR'ing is very nice. A Mammut SuperSafe would be my first choice as an excellent (albiet slightly pricey) choice.
I too used an accelerator as my first rope, worked fine. Relatively cheap.
Do however choose carefully on rope length as what you need varies greatly by your climbing area. For some areas 50m may be all that you will need while others may require 60m.
Make sure whatever diameter rope you choose works in your belay device properly. Thick ropes last longest but may be troublesome in your device over time (such as 11mm ropes). Thin ropes have the least longevity but are much lighter to carry - if this is a consideration realize you are trading off life span of the rope for saving a pound or two. Thin ropes are also very belay device picky.
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caughtinside
Aug 22, 2006, 9:05 PM
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Buy the cheapest 10.5mm diameter rope you can find.
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teddyp324
Aug 22, 2006, 9:14 PM
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I have a PMI Cirque 10.6mm 50m rope that works great for TR or Leading... EMS sells them for $125 and it's rated to 12 falls. That was my first rope and I love it, highly recomend it!!!
-Ted
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billcoe_
Aug 24, 2006, 10:03 PM
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You just missed the best TR deal, Black diamond was selling a Beal 11mil for $109. but they're sold out.
If it was me, I seriously consider this one, http://www.gearexpress.biz/...=G&Product_Code=5111
$119. seems like a great price.
As important, use 2 identical sized steel lockers (or non-lockers opposed and reversed. The larger the bearing service and the cleaner the rope runs, the longer it will last you.
Regards;
Bill
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scrapedape
Aug 31, 2006, 6:02 PM
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All you need to know:
In reply to: Buy the cheapest 10.5mm diameter rope you can find.
You could go down to a 10.2 if you found a good deal.
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rockguide
Aug 31, 2006, 6:22 PM
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I would agree on the 10.5mm rope and make it as durable as you can find. A drycoated rope is more slippery and can reduce abrasion a little. Probably not worth the extra bucks though.
I usually go for the 60m length, but if you are toproping in an area where everything is much shorter (and you don't plan to travel) go with shorter. In some cases you can even buy dynamic rope off the spool and have a custom length (like 40m).
Duodesse is helpful for finding the middle and throwing the rope down. Otherwise choose a rope with an excellent factory marking.
I would recommend dynamic over static so you can lead with it if you decide to go down that road. Also if you are top roping and the climber moves up fast and falls with slack - ouch. Static rope is, however, excellent for building top anchors or for anchor extensions.
Whatever you buy - two words.
Rope bag.
B
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coolklimber
Aug 31, 2006, 7:00 PM
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This question has been answered already.
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ja1484
Sep 1, 2006, 2:58 AM
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Any reputable manufacturer's 11mm would be the ticket. You'll want all the abrasion resistance you can get, as it's going to be the primary form of wear on your rope if you only TR with it.
Dry coatings will help with that as well.
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markc
Sep 1, 2006, 1:46 PM
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With respect to others, I wouldn't go with a dry-treated rope unless you get a great deal. I don't think any added life will be worth the sticker price. As others advised, I think a 10.5 mm is a good all-around diameter. My first rope was 11 mm. While beefy, it put up with a lot of abuse. Look for the cheapest climbing rope you can find.
Gear Express has a short rope selection. If you're in an area with shorter crags, one of those may suffice. However, extra precaution should be used if you have a non-standard length. Always knot the belay end and be aware of the cliff height.
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dalfollo
Sep 10, 2006, 12:00 AM
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What about an 11mm Bluewater static?? No one mentioned a static rope.....
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ja1484
Sep 10, 2006, 4:25 AM
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In reply to: What about an 11mm Bluewater static?? No one mentioned a static rope.....
Prefer Dynamics for TR, especially for the inexperienced. In the event that slack somehow builds up in the line and someone falls, everyone's scared but uninjured. Not necessarily the case with a static line.
Also, of course, given that progression can be fast with persistance, a dynamic line used for TR can migrate to lead duty in a few months if the situation demands it.
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