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wrbill
Aug 15, 2006, 6:01 AM
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Thanks for giving us the chance to try out your new holds.
Bill Byrnes
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Klamath Falls, OR 97603
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gosharks
Aug 16, 2006, 4:32 AM
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Johns Hopkins University
Ralph S. O'Connor Recreation Center: Climbing Wall
3400 North Charles Street
Baltimore, MD 21218
Thanks a lot!
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freakyclimber
Aug 20, 2006, 9:58 PM
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wow if you google ur names ur addresses come up!!!! :shock: :shock:
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pilotpistolpete
Aug 23, 2006, 1:51 PM
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D. Bedard
1591 Riverside Dr. apt. 20
Ottawa, ON, Canada
K1G 4A7
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mturner
Aug 23, 2006, 3:34 PM
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In reply to: Booty? I'll test and critique it. Please, send to: Jeff C/O Rockreation 1300 Logan Ave. Costa Mesa, CA 92626 714-556-7625 Thanks for the opportunity.
That a boy Jeff! Get some for our gym. Can't wait to set with those holds! :D
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synrock
Aug 26, 2006, 6:50 AM
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pods should be showing up tomorrow or monday.
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ctardi
Aug 26, 2006, 6:15 PM
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Sweet! Thank you sir! (Will post about them when I get them, and use them for a bit)
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lambone
Aug 27, 2006, 8:51 PM
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Got my Rockpod in the mail today. Sweet little pinch!
We cracked the plastic base on one of the small foot chips yesterday. Screwed it a bit too hard I guess.
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ctardi
Aug 27, 2006, 9:12 PM
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Mail on Sunday?
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synrock
Aug 28, 2006, 2:25 AM
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Can I see a photo? (don't remember what I sent you). The early polyurethane I was using wasn't very good. That's one of the things I've been fine tuning on these.
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synrock
Aug 28, 2006, 2:28 AM
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Oh and the canada people are going to have to wait a bit, I only got the US addresses out.
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ctardi
Aug 28, 2006, 3:41 AM
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No problem...No problem
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echo
Aug 28, 2006, 5:36 PM
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Got mine on Friday and will be putting it on the wall in a little while... Looks good and i like the idea. Cant wait to climb on it!
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whitribj
Aug 29, 2006, 5:06 PM
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Just got mine up on the gym wall yesterday.
Initial impressions:
Feels great! Not like anything I have used. Love the texture. Only concern will be the durability of the adhesive.
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j_ung
Aug 29, 2006, 5:30 PM
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Just got mine, too. A few initial observations. I love the texture! Far more friendly than anything else I've seen. However, I'm worried it'll clog with chalk quickly. But my bigest concern is the weight. A sack of these bad boys will be brutal. Also, this shape, a small slopey pinch isn't very creative. But then, I got it for free, didn't I? :lol: I assume you have much more, but how does your system handle diverse forms?
I'm setting routes on brand new wall at the new US National Whitewater Center tonight. I'll toss 'er into the mix and report back!
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jason1
Aug 29, 2006, 5:52 PM
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put mine on my 45 degree wall... sweet little crimp....very friendly...
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wishiwasamonkey
Aug 30, 2006, 4:38 PM
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I'm curious about the rockpod shapes. Could we see some pics of the holds you guys got?
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synrock
Aug 30, 2006, 6:02 PM
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One of the advantages of this rockpod system is the diversity of shapes. For instance, for the nanopod, the smallest one that most people got samples of, I have 15 different synrock insets that will fit in the pod.
Now, I currently have 3 different nanopods, a half moon, a 2 sided parallel pinch, and a 3-sided triangle. I will be making more nano shapes, a parellel pinch of a different width, and a few non-parallel pinches.
But just with the three I have and the 15 different synrock "shapes" there are 3615 different pods, each a unique hold that I can make out of these 3 pods.
I have 10 different sizes of the half moon or "side pods" from the nanopod up to the gigapod (a 16" by 5" beast). Each has at least one pinch.
I'm starting to make mixed pods - a 4" pod on one face and a 2" pod for the thumb catch.
I also have 6 different pocket pods or "center pods."
And I am making center pods with sidepod edges.
Think upwards of 100,000 shapes so far. My main problem is going to be cataloging them.
With regard to the shapes of the inserts, so far I'm keeping it simple. Slopers, crimp edges, pockets.
I detest the Nicros art hold syndrome.
"Oh those artistic holds require you to figure out how to use them"
Give me a break.
Most of the early Nicros holds looked very pretty but when you put them on the wall it turned out that there was only one uncomfortable way to hold on to the thing. It took you 5 seconds to figure that out, and for the next 5 years you have the pig piece of plastic on your wall with one stupid way to hold on to it. Which you had memorized after 5 seconds.
The coolest oudooor climbs tend to have holds with very simple shapes. Think HP-40 sloper, New river gorge edge, Heuco crimper or a pocket at the Red.
The medium is the message. Synrock feels just like sandstone because it IS sandstone. It won't polish and it feels like a piece of sandstone you will encounter outside.
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ctardi
Aug 30, 2006, 6:36 PM
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Man! You're killin me! I can't wait to try this thing out! :D 8^)
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cjsimpso
Aug 30, 2006, 7:13 PM
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Got mine today, I will have a report for you by Monday.
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tim
Aug 30, 2006, 8:06 PM
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Same address as you sent the last pile of holds to, if you need more beta testing, or you could toss a couple in with the inset order if you feel like it:
Tim Triche
Altadena, CA, 91001
If I weren't so cheap I woulda bought some of those you sold on eBay!
(edit: everyone who wants to kill me already knows where I live, eg. my wife, so why bother reinforcing it or having the Russian mafia steal my ID)
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synrock
Sep 1, 2006, 3:41 AM
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The ebay auction I have on now has a center pod I call the "portrait pod." "Portrait" because it is oval like the cropping in a portrait and about head size. They are sort of like those old entriprise tiles.
I'm really getting into the pod nomenclature.
Wait till you guys see the
menage-a-pod.
Oh yeah and I will get those canada pods out - most likely next week if I manage to make it out of the gunks (car trouble). Now the gunks isn't a bad place to be stuck in but it is going to pour this weekend.
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lambone
Sep 6, 2006, 5:30 PM
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In reply to: . I detest the Nicros art hold syndrome. "Oh those artistic holds require you to figure out how to use them" Give me a break. Most of the early Nicros holds looked very pretty but when you put them on the wall it turned out that there was only one uncomfortable way to hold on to the thing. It took you 5 seconds to figure that out, and for the next 5 years you have the pig piece of plastic on your wall with one stupid way to hold on to it. Which you had memorized after 5 seconds.
Please don't trash talk other hold companies in your effort to tout your own business here. Nircros makes awesome holds.
Out of the sample holds I have recieved from you, all spin because the hard plastic does not "grip" the wall, two broke and one is as far as I am concerned completely unusable because it is too sharp, and borderline dangerous to pull on.
All of my Nicros holds are awesome and my customers love them and want more.
Giving away some free holds and paying the postage is a very noble way to promote your business, and I aplaud that...but don't bring down other hold companies to boost your "revolutionary" design.
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synrock
Sep 6, 2006, 9:06 PM
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Look, I know we're all sad about the crocodile hunter getting the chop but that's no reason to lash out without thinking.
Dude, you missed my point - I said EARLY Nicros holds. I'm talking back in the early 90's when there were only a few hold companies.
Maybe you're not old enough.
When Nicros first started making shapes they came up with all these real artsy shapes and the swirl colors.
The focus was on making holds that looked pretty. The idea was that you had figure out how to hold on to it. But they sucked to climb on and you memorized how to hold on to it after 10 seconds.
Nate wised up and Nicros shapes are quite awesome now.
But this was a response to J-ung's point about the shape not being "creative."
I have a problem with the whole concept of making holds designed for your eyes to look at and not your hands to hold on to. Nicros was simply the first to indulge in this syndrome. It's like naming a disease after the first person to get it - sorry for not being more specific and saying "early 90's nicros art hold syndrome." Really.
I've been getting these holds out to people to find out how they work. And getting feedback. I made the mistake of using too hard a urethane for some of these and I've switched to softer stuff.
If you want to give me ACTUAL USEFUL feedback, like some photos so I can understand what you are talking about I'd appreciate it.
There is no buisness touting going on here. I just don't like climbing on plastic and I've spent the last 15 years trying to come up with a better alternative. I'm just excited because I'm getting close.
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lambone
Sep 7, 2006, 4:46 AM
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In reply to: Dude, you missed my point - I said EARLY Nicros holds. I'm talking back in the early 90's when there were only a few hold companies. Maybe you're not old enough.
:roll: I started gym climbing in 91, fwiw.
Second you didn't say "Early Nicros Holds," you said "Artsy Nicros Holds."
Here is a link to Nicros currently produced A.R.T. Wall set, which is what I thought you were talking about.
http://nicrosstore.biz.sco.com/..._A_R_T_Wall_153.html
Regardless, you were bagging on a specific brand. Which I consider pretty distastefull considering the free advertising space you are getting here.
Good luck with your holds. I gave you feed back. The plastic bases on mine cracked in half when tightened too much, which you have to do to keep them from spinning. Also the concrete texture stuff also cracked. You don't need pictures, visualize it. I'd send them back to you but I have more important things to do.
Goodday Mate!
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