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synrock
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I've finally filed the patent for these things so now I can start getting some out to the climbing public at large. I will have a limited number (say 20 or so) of production samples to give out in a few weeks. Leave your name and address (don't pm me, leave it here). You can check out the ebay listing for some pre-production holds to see what they look like. I need to get rid of these and other prototypes so I can make room in the factory and afford to buy some more polyurethane.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Leave name and address here - What are you INSANE???!!1111
DMT
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In reply to: Leave name and address here - What are you INSANE???!!1111 DMT
Ditto. :lol:
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Yeah, and a, how about I post my CC#s and my Social to - I bet everyone on this site will promise not to look at it. you might want to think about using a way in which we can give you the info while keeping it private. say email, or pm.
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synrock
Aug 9, 2006, 9:15 PM
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Not sure the problem with leaving a snail mail address - seriously explain. It's just easier for me to cut an past from one page but if you want to you can email me at petrogrips at hotmail.
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echo
Aug 10, 2006, 1:53 AM
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In reply to: Not sure the problem with leaving a snail mail address - seriously explain. It's just easier for me to cut an past from one page but if you want to you can email me at petrogrips at hotmail.
Tried to email you, but my message was rejected or something...
Maybe you could email me back? echo9 at san dot rr dot com
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socalbolter
Aug 10, 2006, 2:09 AM
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Interesting concept.
I sent you an email.
Look forward to checking these out.
Thanks for the offer!
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lambone
Aug 10, 2006, 5:38 AM
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Rogue Rock Gym
30001 Samike Dr STE104
Medford Or, 97501
You sent us one a while back. It our members liked it. Nice foot chips!
More would be great and I'll get feedback from the members. Cheers!
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Booty? I'll test and critique it.
Please, send to:
Jeff C/O
Rockreation
1300 Logan Ave.
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
714-556-7625
Thanks for the opportunity.
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w. walker
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Aug 10, 2006, 6:59 AM
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PM Sent
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well I'm too worried you won't look in the PM's
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Ah the hell with it... I really like your designs btw, and am interested in how they feel.
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Aug 10, 2006, 1:36 PM
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Is getting rid of 20 holds really going to free up that much space? Can anyone verify this is for real?
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In reply to: Is getting rid of 20 holds really going to free up that much space? Can anyone verify this is for real?
no clue, but the benefits outweigh my risks... :lol: :lol:
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synrock
Aug 10, 2006, 4:17 PM
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In reply to: Is getting rid of 20 holds really going to free up that much space? Can anyone verify this is for real?
I'm selling all the pre-production prototypes I made over the past year on ebay - that is the space saving I'm talking about. It's actually not that much volume of holds but it is a good volume of expensive polyurethane which I need to recoup cost on.
The samples I will send are production versions and I don't have a lot of these completed because I'm spending all my time making new pod shapes for a fall product launch.
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Aug 10, 2006, 5:44 PM
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Well...if this is still going on...
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Aug 10, 2006, 6:09 PM
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is this still going on?
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Aug 10, 2006, 6:28 PM
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I hope I'm not too late.
I hope you aren't going to come to my house and eat me.
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lambone
Aug 10, 2006, 8:20 PM
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In reply to: Is getting rid of 20 holds really going to free up that much space? Can anyone verify this is for real?
synrock is for real. he sent me a couple of these holds before.
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Aug 10, 2006, 8:54 PM
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If you have any left:
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Aug 11, 2006, 1:31 AM
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Aug 11, 2006, 8:44 PM
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Hey Let me know if you still need someone to take some holds off your hands. I run a YMCA Rock wall in VA and my climbers and setters are looking for something new. Let me know.
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If you send us holds, they will get a nice spot in our rockclimbing gym!
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Aug 15, 2006, 6:01 AM
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Thanks for giving us the chance to try out your new holds.
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Johns Hopkins University
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wow if you google ur names ur addresses come up!!!! :shock: :shock:
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Aug 23, 2006, 3:34 PM
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In reply to: Booty? I'll test and critique it. Please, send to: Jeff C/O Rockreation 1300 Logan Ave. Costa Mesa, CA 92626 714-556-7625 Thanks for the opportunity.
That a boy Jeff! Get some for our gym. Can't wait to set with those holds! :D
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synrock
Aug 26, 2006, 6:50 AM
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pods should be showing up tomorrow or monday.
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Sweet! Thank you sir! (Will post about them when I get them, and use them for a bit)
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Aug 27, 2006, 8:51 PM
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Got my Rockpod in the mail today. Sweet little pinch!
We cracked the plastic base on one of the small foot chips yesterday. Screwed it a bit too hard I guess.
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ctardi
Aug 27, 2006, 9:12 PM
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Mail on Sunday?
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synrock
Aug 28, 2006, 2:25 AM
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Can I see a photo? (don't remember what I sent you). The early polyurethane I was using wasn't very good. That's one of the things I've been fine tuning on these.
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synrock
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Oh and the canada people are going to have to wait a bit, I only got the US addresses out.
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ctardi
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No problem...No problem
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Got mine on Friday and will be putting it on the wall in a little while... Looks good and i like the idea. Cant wait to climb on it!
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Just got mine up on the gym wall yesterday.
Initial impressions:
Feels great! Not like anything I have used. Love the texture. Only concern will be the durability of the adhesive.
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Just got mine, too. A few initial observations. I love the texture! Far more friendly than anything else I've seen. However, I'm worried it'll clog with chalk quickly. But my bigest concern is the weight. A sack of these bad boys will be brutal. Also, this shape, a small slopey pinch isn't very creative. But then, I got it for free, didn't I? :lol: I assume you have much more, but how does your system handle diverse forms?
I'm setting routes on brand new wall at the new US National Whitewater Center tonight. I'll toss 'er into the mix and report back!
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put mine on my 45 degree wall... sweet little crimp....very friendly...
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Aug 30, 2006, 4:38 PM
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I'm curious about the rockpod shapes. Could we see some pics of the holds you guys got?
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synrock
Aug 30, 2006, 6:02 PM
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One of the advantages of this rockpod system is the diversity of shapes. For instance, for the nanopod, the smallest one that most people got samples of, I have 15 different synrock insets that will fit in the pod.
Now, I currently have 3 different nanopods, a half moon, a 2 sided parallel pinch, and a 3-sided triangle. I will be making more nano shapes, a parellel pinch of a different width, and a few non-parallel pinches.
But just with the three I have and the 15 different synrock "shapes" there are 3615 different pods, each a unique hold that I can make out of these 3 pods.
I have 10 different sizes of the half moon or "side pods" from the nanopod up to the gigapod (a 16" by 5" beast). Each has at least one pinch.
I'm starting to make mixed pods - a 4" pod on one face and a 2" pod for the thumb catch.
I also have 6 different pocket pods or "center pods."
And I am making center pods with sidepod edges.
Think upwards of 100,000 shapes so far. My main problem is going to be cataloging them.
With regard to the shapes of the inserts, so far I'm keeping it simple. Slopers, crimp edges, pockets.
I detest the Nicros art hold syndrome.
"Oh those artistic holds require you to figure out how to use them"
Give me a break.
Most of the early Nicros holds looked very pretty but when you put them on the wall it turned out that there was only one uncomfortable way to hold on to the thing. It took you 5 seconds to figure that out, and for the next 5 years you have the pig piece of plastic on your wall with one stupid way to hold on to it. Which you had memorized after 5 seconds.
The coolest oudooor climbs tend to have holds with very simple shapes. Think HP-40 sloper, New river gorge edge, Heuco crimper or a pocket at the Red.
The medium is the message. Synrock feels just like sandstone because it IS sandstone. It won't polish and it feels like a piece of sandstone you will encounter outside.
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Aug 30, 2006, 6:36 PM
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Man! You're killin me! I can't wait to try this thing out! :D 8^)
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Got mine today, I will have a report for you by Monday.
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Same address as you sent the last pile of holds to, if you need more beta testing, or you could toss a couple in with the inset order if you feel like it:
Tim Triche
Altadena, CA, 91001
If I weren't so cheap I woulda bought some of those you sold on eBay!
(edit: everyone who wants to kill me already knows where I live, eg. my wife, so why bother reinforcing it or having the Russian mafia steal my ID)
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synrock
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The ebay auction I have on now has a center pod I call the "portrait pod." "Portrait" because it is oval like the cropping in a portrait and about head size. They are sort of like those old entriprise tiles.
I'm really getting into the pod nomenclature.
Wait till you guys see the
menage-a-pod.
Oh yeah and I will get those canada pods out - most likely next week if I manage to make it out of the gunks (car trouble). Now the gunks isn't a bad place to be stuck in but it is going to pour this weekend.
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In reply to: . I detest the Nicros art hold syndrome. "Oh those artistic holds require you to figure out how to use them" Give me a break. Most of the early Nicros holds looked very pretty but when you put them on the wall it turned out that there was only one uncomfortable way to hold on to the thing. It took you 5 seconds to figure that out, and for the next 5 years you have the pig piece of plastic on your wall with one stupid way to hold on to it. Which you had memorized after 5 seconds.
Please don't trash talk other hold companies in your effort to tout your own business here. Nircros makes awesome holds.
Out of the sample holds I have recieved from you, all spin because the hard plastic does not "grip" the wall, two broke and one is as far as I am concerned completely unusable because it is too sharp, and borderline dangerous to pull on.
All of my Nicros holds are awesome and my customers love them and want more.
Giving away some free holds and paying the postage is a very noble way to promote your business, and I aplaud that...but don't bring down other hold companies to boost your "revolutionary" design.
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Sep 6, 2006, 9:06 PM
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Look, I know we're all sad about the crocodile hunter getting the chop but that's no reason to lash out without thinking.
Dude, you missed my point - I said EARLY Nicros holds. I'm talking back in the early 90's when there were only a few hold companies.
Maybe you're not old enough.
When Nicros first started making shapes they came up with all these real artsy shapes and the swirl colors.
The focus was on making holds that looked pretty. The idea was that you had figure out how to hold on to it. But they sucked to climb on and you memorized how to hold on to it after 10 seconds.
Nate wised up and Nicros shapes are quite awesome now.
But this was a response to J-ung's point about the shape not being "creative."
I have a problem with the whole concept of making holds designed for your eyes to look at and not your hands to hold on to. Nicros was simply the first to indulge in this syndrome. It's like naming a disease after the first person to get it - sorry for not being more specific and saying "early 90's nicros art hold syndrome." Really.
I've been getting these holds out to people to find out how they work. And getting feedback. I made the mistake of using too hard a urethane for some of these and I've switched to softer stuff.
If you want to give me ACTUAL USEFUL feedback, like some photos so I can understand what you are talking about I'd appreciate it.
There is no buisness touting going on here. I just don't like climbing on plastic and I've spent the last 15 years trying to come up with a better alternative. I'm just excited because I'm getting close.
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In reply to: Dude, you missed my point - I said EARLY Nicros holds. I'm talking back in the early 90's when there were only a few hold companies. Maybe you're not old enough.
:roll: I started gym climbing in 91, fwiw.
Second you didn't say "Early Nicros Holds," you said "Artsy Nicros Holds."
Here is a link to Nicros currently produced A.R.T. Wall set, which is what I thought you were talking about.
http://nicrosstore.biz.sco.com/..._A_R_T_Wall_153.html
Regardless, you were bagging on a specific brand. Which I consider pretty distastefull considering the free advertising space you are getting here.
Good luck with your holds. I gave you feed back. The plastic bases on mine cracked in half when tightened too much, which you have to do to keep them from spinning. Also the concrete texture stuff also cracked. You don't need pictures, visualize it. I'd send them back to you but I have more important things to do.
Goodday Mate!
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Why are you so stubborn?
I an not bashing NICROS holds. I WAS bashing Nicros EARLY holds. They sucked. None of those early shapes are in the current NICROS inventory. I am saying this for all the cyber free anvertising world to hear. I don't think nicros current holds suck.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Why are you being so nasty?
Nate, the owner of nicros, spent most of his time in the early years focused on texture and durability and not on the best climbing shapes. That is why pusher became so popular, because they had good shapes.
Nicros sold a lot of holds in the early days because they looked pretty but none of my friends or the gyms I climbed at liked them.
Now, about your broken holds - are they very small with a flat head bolt?
I had a design flaw in those in that the flathead bolt was pressing against the synrock/plastic interface. Bad idea. They broke.
It is sad that you are so negative and nasty. I have some really big holds I could have sent you. That is where these holds really shine. When you can duplicate exactly a fontainbleau sloper it is a truely nice thing.
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In reply to: In reply to: . I detest the Nicros art hold syndrome. "Oh those artistic holds require you to figure out how to use them" Give me a break. Most of the early Nicros holds looked very pretty but when you put them on the wall it turned out that there was only one uncomfortable way to hold on to the thing. It took you 5 seconds to figure that out, and for the next 5 years you have the pig piece of plastic on your wall with one stupid way to hold on to it. Which you had memorized after 5 seconds. Please don't trash talk other hold companies in your effort to tout your own business here. Nircros makes awesome holds. Out of the sample holds I have recieved from you, all spin because the hard plastic does not "grip" the wall, two broke and one is as far as I am concerned completely unusable because it is too sharp, and borderline dangerous to pull on. All of my Nicros holds are awesome and my customers love them and want more. Giving away some free holds and paying the postage is a very noble way to promote your business, and I aplaud that...but don't bring down other hold companies to boost your "revolutionary" design.
Here in your own quote is where synrock mentioned the early Nicros holds.
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What is with you guys?! Who cares? We're all entitled to an opinion, even those of us trying to sell something. If you think synrock's comments are distasteful, shut up and don't ask for his holds.
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In reply to: Now, about your broken holds - are they very small with a flat head bolt? ok forget about the Nicros comment, sorry I blew up on you. I had a design flaw in those in that the flathead bolt was pressing against the synrock/plastic interface. Bad idea. They broke.
yes, they look like the foot chips in this picture, only with pink plastic.
I guess I don't quite get the four finger pocket holds that you have. like the big purple one, and the one in the upper right corner. They seem really sharp and uncomfortable to me...I have yet to be able to put it on a problem past vertical and actually want to grab it! :shock: yow!
I like the foot chips though, if the new plastic is stronger I'd buy more. Some of the pinches are cool too.
I have yet to see the "Font" size slopers...got pics?
http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/08/49/ag/02_12.JPG
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[quote="lambone"]In reply to: I guess I don't quite get the four finger pocket holds that you have. like the big purple one, and the one in the upper right corner. They seem really sharp and uncomfortable to me...I have yet to be able to put it on a problem past vertical and actually want to grab it! :shock: yow! I like the foot chips though, if the new plastic is stronger I'd buy more. Some of the pinches are cool too. I have yet to see the "Font" size slopers...got pics? http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/08/49/ag/02_12.JPG
I'll send you some updated versions of the chips (you have gen 1 - these will be gen 3 or 4.)
That uncomfortable hold is a bit too much on the rellistic side - but do you realize that the texture and the shape can be changed on this synrock stuff.
Pour some muriatic acid into the pocket and let sit for an hour or so. Wash it off, dry it Brush it with a toothbrush. This "weathers" the synrock sandstone in a very simular way to how a sandstone pocket outdoors weathers, but much quicker.
And if you want to really change the shape you can use sandpaper or a dremel tool. When you acid etch it you get texture back on the shape you carved.
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Synrock-
I just wanted to update you... the school training wall that I'm going to test your product on is being cleaned and mildly updated, which is why I haven't gotten back to you yet. I have the pod right here, and I'm very excited to test it, and will let you know ASAP. Thanks for your patience!
Chris
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Just got two more foot chips from Synrock...thanks!
(and sorry foor flaming you above :oops: )
I definately think the ones with a washer that use a square head/socket cap bolts are better then the beveled/flathead ones.
I think these types of holds do have alot of potentail and it's nice to see something a bit different on the market.
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Just wondering about us canucks?
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synrock
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sent them last week global priority mail
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I work at a local YMCA...I was wondering if maybe I could score a few samples and me and my boss will look into utilizing them on our wall?
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Thanks Synrock! Will let you know what I think about em when I get em.
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First off, thank you for the hold, it's already up on our bouldering wall, hopefully getting some traffic tonight.
I havn't climbed on it, but did go over it with a fine tooth comb. I think that the two main weaknesses will be the route setters, and the dishwasher.
Holds get abused alot, especially during setting and sorting/cleaning. A hold like that will usually last us about 2-3 years if it is of a high quality.
I would like to see two changes made for both asthetics, and durability. I would like the whole back of the hold to be made of the plastic, and the whole grabbing surface and front to be the texture. This will help sheild the texture when it is being handled roughly, as well as make it less likely for the hold to spin.
As far as the plastic goes, I see potential for some cool colors. I'd like to see the logo a bit more prominant on there. :wink:
I also got the small crimp/foothold, and agree that it should have a flat head bolt instead of a cap, as the caps stick out a bit too far.
All in all, we're very impressed with the idea, and I'd like to talk to you about getting a few more holds to test out at the gym!
Cam Tardi
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The texture portion of the hold, the synrock, is very durable suff. It's a tad brittle but mating it to the poly should damp down any tendancy for it to chip. I'd worry about it abusing other plastic holds when thrown together because the synrock is much harder than plastic. And I think you will find that the stuff doesn't need cleaning nearly as much as the plastic. It stays sticky like natural sandstone stays sticky.
I am also working on a new anti-rotation solution. My pure synrock holds never rotate because the backs are very rough. This is the opposite solution to the problem usually fixed by making the backs soft. It works really well on wood and surprisingly on textured concrete. I'll be getting some samples of this particular method out to people with textured walls to see how it works.
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Check your PM's. :wink:
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Here's my review (sorry this has taken so long).
I received a three finger half-pad sloping crimp or a jib depending on who you are. I really like the gripping surface - both the texture and the shape. It seemed that there was a lot of subtlety packed into a really small hold. It was also more durable than I expected - I accidently dropped it on the concrete before getting it on my board and it didn't shatter.
However, once I put it on my board I was a bit disappointed. Now, I have a 60-degree board so there isn't a lot that I can do with a hold this size. But I have been training for a problem that had a hold that is very similar. The problem was that when I grabbed the hold it flexed. In other words, as I weighted the hold I could feel it compress. I'm pretty sure this compression is caused by the glue acting as a sort of suspension system between the texture and the plastic. I haven't noticed that others have had this problem - maybe I got a hold that had a lot of glue. Have others noticed this feeling of compression? I like to see how the larger holds handle and see if they have the same feel.
Also, the hold does tend to spin. I usually glue sandpaper to the back of holds that don't have a soft base - so I solved the problem. I do prefer soft-base holds though.
I applaud your efforts at innovation - this still needs a few improvements to really hit the mark.
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syrock,
still seeing some breakage issues.
the two sided foot jib (like the one directly below the carabiner) broke on first placement. I put it on myself and didn't over tighten, it was just a nudge past snug...and the wall was flat and smooth.
http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/08/49/ag/02_12.JPG
Bolth sides of the "synrock" texture split in half and fell off.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I really like these holds for feet and just wish they were a bid stronger for gym use. If any of my regular setteres had placed the hold they would have definately cracked it because we are use to Franklins that you can really crank tight.
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I don't want you to think I've forgotten you. I've put the hold up (its a three-four half-pad) once, but only used it a small amount myself. I broke a toe two weeks ago at Rumney and haven't been climbing hard since. It did not break upon tightening. I haven't really pulled hard on it, but will be using it to set routes in a bouldering comp next weekend, and will have much more to report. Also, the toe is recovering, so I should be back on it soon.
Chris
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synrock
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In reply to: syrock, Bolth sides of the "synrock" texture split in half and fell off.
Odd. What color was the glue? And if the synrock "fell out" was the glue attached to it or to the plastic?
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lambone
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synrock,
I am holding the hold in my hand now. The glue is grey and it is on both the plastic and synrock.
I was suprised when the synrock cracked because the bolt is tightening and applying preasure to the plastic, not the synrock, and the plastic is pretty thick at the bolt hole like 1/2 inch almost.
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synrock
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In reply to: synrock, I am holding the hold in my hand now. The glue is grey and it is on both the plastic and synrock. I was suprised when the synrock cracked because the bolt is tightening and applying preasure to the plastic, not the synrock, and the plastic is pretty thick at the bolt hole like 1/2 inch almost.
Interesting. I don't know if the problem is that the poly is deforming too much and stressing the synrock when it moves - or if it is too stiff and not evening out the stress of bolt tightning on the synrock.
I haven't fractured any on any wood walls yet. I do have one cement textured wall they work well on but all the surfaces are convex which doesn't seem to break holds.
I think I may have a solution the problem and will send you some small ones and even smaller ones in a week.
If you would be so kind as to send me the hold I will send you a rather large two-handed sloper for you to try to break. You won't want to break it because it is cool, but I'm sure you will give it your best shot.
Jim Bowers
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synrock
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In reply to: I don't want you to think I've forgotten you. I've put the hold up (its a three-four half-pad) once, but only used it a small amount myself. I broke a toe two weeks ago at Rumney and haven't been climbing hard since. It did not break upon tightening. I haven't really pulled hard on it, but will be using it to set routes in a bouldering comp next weekend, and will have much more to report. Also, the toe is recovering, so I should be back on it soon. Chris
I'll send you some more for the comp including some screw-ons. The screw-ons seem to be really bomber. I'm psyched about the new pico-pod since it's about half the thickness of smallest one I've sent out
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synrock
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In reply to: The problem was that when I grabbed the hold it flexed. In other words, as I weighted the hold I could feel it compress. I'm pretty sure this compression is caused by the glue acting as a sort of suspension system between the texture and the plastic. I haven't noticed that others have had this problem - maybe I got a hold that had a lot of glue. Have others noticed this feeling of compression? I like to see how the larger holds handle and see if they have the same feel.
Very odd - can you tell me the color of the glue? The epoxy I am using shouldn't have any flex at all.
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Jim -
I experienced a similar problem as what Lambone is describing. You had sent me two really cool pinches (size large ?) that I was psyched to climb on. When placing them on a flat, concrete wall, the synrock portion cracked (but stayed intact otherwise) and the poly section did not crack.
My guess was that the poly allows for a little flex and distortion (even if very minor) while the synrock (that is attached rigidly to it) does not.
Like most other posters here, I think the idea has merit and should be pursued to the extent that these problems no longer occur, but at this time there's still a little fine tuning to be done.
Not only does the synrock provide a comfortable gripping surface - the contrast between the two materials allows for a nice appearance to the part.
By the way, these bigger pinches are very nice. If you can remedy the cracking I would definitely be interested in getting more.
Thanks again for involving the climbing public in your R & D. Wish more companies did this type of thing.
- Louie
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Thats sweet man, I appreciate it.
I'll defintely let you know how it goes down
Chris
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ok synrock, I'll send my cracked ones back asap.
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In reply to: Jim - By the way, these bigger pinches are very nice. If you can remedy the cracking I would definitely be interested in getting more. - Louie
Yeah I'm working on a solution - in the mean time you can fix the crack by heating the hold up and touching a small bit of epoxy to the area. The epoxy will suck into the crack and make for a very strong fix.
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cjsimpso
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The holds you sent for my comp arrived. Rediculously sweet. I'm incredibly suped to get them on the wall. Thanks so much, and I'll have a swarm of user-reviews for you by the end of next week.
Thanks man!
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synrock, could you post a picture of your double-handed sloper? I'd be interested in seeing that!
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We haven't had our comp yet, but we've been including your holds in the routes we're setting, and they have been getting a bit of use. The two giant slopers you sent, (the single bolt and the screw-on) feel spectacular. A screw on giant sloper is a terrific idea, we had a big hole for the longest time, and now we've filled it perfectly. We're loving those two, even if the screw-on is pretty heinous. The rest of the holds are also pretty freaking sweet. The medium flat shelf is on a 20 degree overhang, making it pretty tempting for the n00bs, but it is spitting people off left and right. And many of the screw on feet (we haven't used them all yet) are terrific little crimps. I'm curious to see how they hold up to heavy traffic, but so far, so good!
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I got a small foothold, for a foothold it's great.
It's to small for a handhold, you can't make a move on this.
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synrock
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In reply to: We haven't had our comp yet, but we've been including your holds in the routes we're setting, and they have been getting a bit of use. The two giant slopers you sent, (the single bolt and the screw-on) feel spectacular. A screw on giant sloper is a terrific idea, we had a big hole for the longest time, and now we've filled it perfectly.
Yeah, I think I've been spending too much R&D time on the sidepods (Where the synrock portion is on the side of the hold). These are the most challanging to make bomproof on heavily textured walls although I think I've got a solution. I'll get some pieces out to those of you kind enough to have broken sidepod samples.
The center pods, because they are completely surrounded by plastic are bomber by nature as well as all the screw-ons. I have about half a dozen of those big screw-on features and I'll try to put some pics up soon so people know what I'm talking about.
Did I send you a petropod? The real piece of sandstone? I sent that to give you an idea of the sweet rock we get to climb on here in central pa.
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In reply to: I got a small foothold, for a foothold it's great. It's to small for a handhold, you can't make a move on this.
I also got one of these, but I used it around a corner, and it works to about 30* for an easy crimp. :)
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Oct 11, 2006, 8:53 PM
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So far, everyone is loving them!
No cracking or breaking, although the slopers are getting slick with chalk and lots of use. Toothbrushes are a neccessity, I think.
Pictures and reviews will be coming soon.
We're doing another comp in December as our last hurrah before we move to a bigger space, how would you feel about having some discussions about you being a sponsor?
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synrock
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In reply to: So far, everyone is loving them! No cracking or breaking, although the slopers are getting slick with chalk and lots of use. Toothbrushes are a neccessity, I think.
The pods come with a factory acid etching. You can acid etch them more to further bring out the sand grains and make them even stickier.
http://www.synrockholds.com/acid.html
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ctardi
Oct 15, 2006, 8:35 PM
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Well...someone really likes the hold...I can't find it!
Must be around there somewhere...
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Red Rock Climbing Center
8201 W. Charleston
Las Vegas, NV 89117
Are you still sending out holds? Me and the other main setter are always looking for new holds to try out. Your holds look really sweat bro, hope everything works out for you. Good Luck.
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synrock
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In reply to: Red Rock Climbing Center 8201 W. Charleston Las Vegas, NV 89117 Are you still sending out holds? Me and the other main setter are always looking for new holds to try out. Your holds look really sweat bro, hope everything works out for you. Good Luck.
I've just finished making a new batch of small pods that have some inovations that should make them unbreakable (hopefully). I'll try to get some samples out there to people with highly textured walls to see how this batch works.
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we need more product pics (and "in-use" pics) in this thread stat!
Also, has anyone else experienced hold flex with these guys? In other words, the glue compresses when the hold is weighted?
Thanks!
Now pics :!:
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I work at my school's rock wall and we would be happy to get you some feed back from both the belayers and the people comming in.
Michael Magenheimer
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In reply to: we need more product pics (and "in-use" pics) in this thread stat! Also, has anyone else experienced hold flex with these guys? In other words, the glue compresses when the hold is weighted? Thanks! Now pics :!:
Hey I think I may have found that problem - a few pods were made with way too soft polyurethane - check to see if the plastic itself flexes.
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The beginnings of my review process:
The holds are great!
We received two large slopers (one screw-on with plastic all around, and one giant pod with texture on one side). We also have a big squarish hold with two sloping pinch surfaces embedded in it. There are also a variety of smaller pinches and crimps, from two-pad right on down to half-pad and even less. Many of these are only foot chips for a lot of our climbers. There was also a miniature crack-type crimp, and a very shallow and slopey two/three finger pocket. Almost everything was up for the comp, and everything is on the wall now. (The only things that didn't get up for the comp were the shallow pocket and a few of the jibs).
Reviews:
General consensus is that they are a terrific addition to our collection, and the texture manages to provide comfort and challenge, without being painful to grip, even in the smallest holds.
Our major complaint is that the texture holds shoe rubber/chalk/grease really well, and doesn't brush all that clean. Because we don't have any acid laying around :shock: , we haven't tried that method of cleaning them yet, so I don't have anything to report on that front.
A few people think they look pretty bad, but I don't think that is particularly relevant to their usefulness. It can't hurt to tell you, I suppose.
We've had no cracking or splitting issues what so ever, although we have been very careful on that front. I suppose I could really crank down on one to see what happens, but I'll probably just strip a Tnut, since our wall is ancient and decrepit.
The giant slopers are immensely popular. Assuming the acid trick works out (they are the ones that are losing texture the fastest), we would certainly be interested in getting more.
The finger crack is a brilliant idea. In addition to forcing accurate placements and careful loading, it also makes for some insanely tricky footwork, especially on an overhanging surface. I'd love to get some more of these, especially if you can develop them in a variety of sizes.
I'd also like to see some of the crimps get a little more inclined, since even the smallest ones are pretty positive and easy to grip. Of course, some of our newer climbers don't really agree.
Actually, a lot of our newer climbers felt like none of your holds were very accessible to them. Of course, that isn't necessarily a problem, and may also be a function of where/how they were placed.
The giant pinch is a terrific hold. You've got no alternative way of gripping it, so you've got to just clamp down and pull hard. A series of these with different angles and sizes would be terrific for training.
All in all, I was enormously impressed by the set you sent me, and terrifically grateful as well. The fact that you volunteered to overnight me a dozen of your holds for free is very impressive, and you've earned a handful of hard-core supporters.
I'd like to see if there is a way to prevent these holds from greasing up so rapidly, or I'd at least like to see you come up with a convenient way of cleaning them (do I see a line of brush-on-acid-based-cleansers in your future?) But all in all, I have been terrifically happy, and will put your name out there at every gym I visit.
I will have more information and reviews coming in the next week or two, as well as photos. I hope this helps, and please don't hesitate to request any specific information that might guide you in making more improvements.
More to follow later,
Chris
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The beginnings of my review process:
The holds are great!
We received two large slopers (one screw-on with plastic all around, and one giant pod with texture on one side). We also have a big squarish hold with two sloping pinch surfaces embedded in it. There are also a variety of smaller pinches and crimps, from two-pad right on down to half-pad and even less. Many of these are only foot chips for a lot of our climbers. There was also a miniature crack-type crimp, and a very shallow and slopey two/three finger pocket. Almost everything was up for the comp, and everything is on the wall now. (The only things that didn't get up for the comp were the shallow pocket and a few of the jibs).
Reviews:
General consensus is that they are a terrific addition to our collection, and the texture manages to provide comfort and challenge, without being painful to grip, even in the smallest holds.
Our major complaint is that the texture holds shoe rubber/chalk/grease really well, and doesn't brush all that clean. Because we don't have any acid laying around :shock: , we haven't tried that method of cleaning them yet, so I don't have anything to report on that front.
A few people think they look pretty bad, but I don't think that is particularly relevant to their usefulness. It can't hurt to tell you, I suppose.
We've had no cracking or splitting issues what so ever, although we have been very careful on that front. I suppose I could really crank down on one to see what happens, but I'll probably just strip a Tnut, since our wall is ancient and decrepit.
The giant slopers are immensely popular. Assuming the acid trick works out (they are the ones that are losing texture the fastest), we would certainly be interested in getting more.
The finger crack is a brilliant idea. In addition to forcing accurate placements and careful loading, it also makes for some insanely tricky footwork, especially on an overhanging surface. I'd love to get some more of these, especially if you can develop them in a variety of sizes.
I'd also like to see some of the crimps get a little more inclined, since even the smallest ones are pretty positive and easy to grip. Of course, some of our newer climbers don't really agree.
Actually, a lot of our newer climbers felt like none of your holds were very accessible to them. Of course, that isn't necessarily a problem, and may also be a function of where/how they were placed.
The giant pinch is a terrific hold. You've got no alternative way of gripping it, so you've got to just clamp down and pull hard. A series of these with different angles and sizes would be terrific for training.
All in all, I was enormously impressed by the set you sent me, and terrifically grateful as well. The fact that you volunteered to overnight me a dozen of your holds for free is very impressive, and you've earned a handful of hard-core supporters.
I'd like to see if there is a way to prevent these holds from greasing up so rapidly, or I'd at least like to see you come up with a convenient way of cleaning them (do I see a line of brush-on-acid-based-cleansers in your future?) But all in all, I have been terrifically happy, and will put your name out there at every gym I visit.
I will have more information and reviews coming in the next week or two, as well as photos. I hope this helps, and please don't hesitate to request any specific information that might guide you in making more improvements.
More to follow later,
Chris
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Thanks so much for your feedback - I just wish I had the time to work on all the things you suggested - Actually I am working on making all the pods you suggested (I'm planning a whole series of "crackpods") I just wish I could have them right now. This pod approach is a bit more complicated than just making a shape and then a mold and it takes a lot of R&D time.
Feedback like this is very welcome because it helps me focus on holds that people like.
You really should try the acid etching thing. Because the synrock binder is only slightly acid soluable it takes a few soakings and brushings to dissolve the surface matrix away and make the sand grains stand up proud to the surface. But the results are spectacular. You end up with actual sandstone or gritstone.
The acid is muriatic acid (hcl) you can get at lowes or home depot for around $3 a gallon and is fairly safe (just don't get it in your eyes).
If I had the time I'd ship every hold from the factory with a perfect etching - but that's less time spend developing pods.
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cjsimpso
Oct 25, 2006, 7:28 PM
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In reply to: This pod approach is a bit more complicated than just making a shape and then a mold and it takes a lot of R&D time.
I am curious as to what exactly you consider a "pod". Is it a semi-circle of plastic with synrock attached? As such, are some of the things you sent me "mono-pods" where others are "bi-podular" and even "tri-pods?" Or is a "pod" more like circle of plastic with the synrock on the inside, like the screw on sloper? To help everyone in this thread understand what we're talking about, could you post pictures of a few of your holds and label the different components, so we can all be on the same page?
I will try the etching in the coming week, and give you some feedback on that. Do you have any other things you would like me to try/test in terms of offering feedback? A few of my gym's regulars will be posting up here soon, too. And pictures will come when I have time to navigate the uploading process.
Thanks, and keep in touch,
Chris
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synrock
Oct 26, 2006, 4:11 PM
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pods are the plastic part - a pod holds something and it is the plastic pod's job to hold the synrock grip area.
there are 2 main types of pods, center pods and side pods. From there the nomenclature gets a little complicated. I'll work on getting some photos up to illustrate.
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ltj999
Oct 26, 2006, 4:41 PM
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are you still sending out beta tesing holds?
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synrock
Oct 27, 2006, 4:53 AM
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What do you got?
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ltj999
Oct 27, 2006, 7:27 PM
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umm idunno what you mean...but i can send you pics and a review of it when i put it up on my schools wall...
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sidepull
Nov 29, 2006, 8:09 PM
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[quote "synrock"][quote]we need more product pics (and "in-use" pics) in this thread stat!
Also, has anyone else experienced hold flex with these guys? In other words, the glue compresses when the hold is weighted?
Thanks!
Now pics :!:[/quote]
That sounds right - the plastic isn't flexing.
Hey I think I may have found that problem - a few pods were made with way too soft polyurethane - check to see if the plastic itself flexes.[/quote]
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synrock
Jan 29, 2007, 5:25 PM
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Hey lambone - let me know how those new and improved small rockpod crimps work out.
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dbrayack
Jan 29, 2007, 6:17 PM
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Daniel Brayack
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I (will) Come, I (will) See, I (will) teste, I (will) tell you what I think.
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dpinto15
Jan 29, 2007, 9:07 PM
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Hey Synrock are you still looking for people to product test that new product? After reading about it the holds sound awsome cause at my gym we don't have any texture on our holds, and i would like to see these holds in action.
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