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macherry
Feb 16, 2007, 4:24 AM
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heh heh
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qwert
Feb 16, 2007, 8:43 AM
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unreleasedenergy wrote: Do most of you guys wear your technical pieces in the city too?
today it will be an arteryx fleece, with a arteryx shirt, and im a bit undecided if i will wear my arcteryx softshell atop it, or my MH hardshell. My shoes are Meindl, trezeta or la sprotiva approach shoes. My backpack is a skiing pack of berghaus's extreme line and i will arrive at the university on my dirtbike, with some freakin uge disk brakes. i guess im pretty pathetic.
why should i buy some extra stuff of mediocre quality, just for around town? and if my outdoor stuff gets destroyed from this, it wasnt worth it anyways.
my only two jackets that are not from an outdoors brand are my army parka (my father bought it used when he was as old as i am now) wich is great for going to concerts and such, and my green orange forest jacket i use when im out with my chainsaw. but it also looks quite fine around town. i think with that jacket i am really individual
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jrox
Feb 16, 2007, 10:27 AM
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Well my intent for this post wasn't to target stereotypes who wear the gear. I don't mind who pays for a quality shell/fleece. My concern is for the quality of MHW and their yearning for as much money as possible. TNF's quality went down no doubt and the sizing is rediculous now.. smalls are HUGE. They stopped installing pit-zips a few years ago and then went back to them after so many complaints. I just hope that MHW doesn't look for these same profit-increasing/quality-reducing ideas with their gear. I guess we'll see within the next 3 years or so.
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kman
Feb 17, 2007, 12:09 AM
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I'm not really convinced that TNF quality has gone down hill...maybe for some stuff...I don't know. I have 2 Summit Series peices that are about 4 years old, a soft shell and a down jacket. Both have held up extremely well to wear and tear. I wear the down jacket in -30 with a t-shirt underneath, and it's warm as hell. Seems pretty quality.
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roy_hinkley_jr
Feb 17, 2007, 12:31 AM
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kman wrote: Seems pretty quality.
Agreed. Their high-end stuff is easily as good as Arc'teryx/Patagonia/Mtn/Hardwear/Marmot. But it's more fashionable to diss TNF so you look cool to everyone else who is a "climber."
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wallwombat
Feb 17, 2007, 1:27 AM
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I think it says a lot about the crappy, shallow,Pepsi-Max character of the climbing community nowadays that an asinine subject about some brand name gets more views and replies than a thread about fall factors posted around the same time.
Well i guess as long as you leave a good lookin corpse..........
Just shut up and go climbing. It doesn't matter what you wear. It doesn't matter if you wear the knitted sweater your granny made you and wear Hush Puppies. (I was about to write, 'just do it' but mercifully the irony police intervened!)
Go to Sheffield. You will see guys who climb harder than any of you and they dress like hobos who steal their clothes out of charity bins. They don't own a raincoat. They don't own a winstopper fleece.
They go climbing though!
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deltav
Feb 17, 2007, 1:36 AM
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The real problem is that if the companies left it up to us to suport them they would go under tomorrow, no matter how much we wanted to buy thier stuff. We are just not large enough of a market to support a company in todays retail world
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puerto
Feb 18, 2007, 1:23 AM
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In reply to: i bought my favorite backpack at the north face store on friggin michigan avenue in downtown chicago. obviously i'm not very core considering that i bought a mainstreme northface product in an area of town obviously geared towards tourists.
When I lived in Chicago walking into that store was always a trying experience.
Should I be depressed because I climb and I live in Chicago?"
Or should I just be happy that I haven't yet become the idiot walking into the Armani store across the street?
Some of those free concerts in Grant Park in the summer were pretty epic though..
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styleboy
Feb 18, 2007, 2:21 AM
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tnwagener
Mar 2, 2007, 6:26 AM
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Sad to Say, Spider is even more mainstream. At least the price keeps it mostly in the outdoor sports area. If you are looking for some great lines for your shop check out Ice wear. They have a great outerwear lineup for next year.
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scuclimber
Mar 3, 2007, 2:45 AM
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I guess it wouldn't be RC.com if threads like this didn't pop up every so often. Neophytes decrying the end of the world that yuppie suburbanites purchase expensive shit. What's new? Keeping up with the Jones's has been going on for a long time. "Core" companies "selling out" is not a new phenomenon. Core mountaineering company A makes top of the line gear, yuppies latch onto it, big corporation sees profit, buys company A, company A gets too popular and/or quality goes down and/or is no longer cool, company B comes along and takes A's place at the top of the cool, niche mountaineering market, megacorp comes along a few years later and buys company B, cycle rinse repeat. Get the hell over it, try a forum search and you'll find the topic has been discussed ad nauseum, and move on with your life. I own all sorts of Arcteryx and Patagucci stuff and wear it when I'm climbing and BC skiing and when I'm walking around downtown San Francisco. If you saw me on the street, how the hell would you know if I was a climber/BC skier or not? What if I was wearing loafers and a suit with a Theta jacket over it in the rain? Blah blah blah blah. (I really need to stop responding to these posts.  )
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miavzero
Mar 3, 2007, 3:08 AM
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Do any of you think that the good ol' boys on ranchhand.com have started threads about scrawny homos who climb rocks while wearing carhardt pants?
I have issues, because the other day some surfers made fun of my quicksilver shorts and two fourteen year old skaters stole my vans shoes while I was walking barefoot on the beach.
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socialclimber
Mar 4, 2007, 12:39 PM
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The thing that bugs me about this trend is colour choice. After a while all you get is "muted earth tones" or black, when what I really want s a BRIGHT ORANGE jacket so when I'm lying at the bottom of a cliff in a snow storm, theres still a small chance my rescuers might see me.
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oldsalt
Mar 4, 2007, 4:53 PM
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unrooted wrote: ... but the quality appears better than before, one example is the zion stretch pants, I love the fit and fabric, but the stitching on both pair I own came undone on the ass, but the newer ones look way more bomber.
I mean no hostility toward unrooted, but this is the first time that I have seen "bomber" refer to ass stitching on a pair of pants instead of a gear placement.
On the thread as a whole...and I am guilty of this myself, at least a little bit...
When people wear climbing clothes to impress others instead of for climbing, they are stealing our thunder as we try to impress others by climbing?
oldsalt wrote: ...and I am guilty of this myself, at least a little bit...
I don't care what anyone else wears. When I layer up for climbing in snow, I've got such a mix of crap on me that I'd be a fashion disaster at a soup kitchen. Sill, I did enjoy seeing a TNF jacket and "knowing" that the person in it was a climber.
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el_layclimber
Mar 4, 2007, 6:09 PM
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"oldsalt wrote: this is the first time that I have seen "bomber" refer to ass stitching on a pair of pants instead of a gear placement. quote] Bomber: (adj.) Slang, likely Dirtbaggish in origin: "Bomb proof" indestructable, secure, trustworthy, or otherwise of superior quality. Eg.: "I used three wraps of athletic tape to attach this 40-ounce of OE to my hand, it's totally bomber brah." I bought my "North Fake," a Chinese knock-off of a North face windstopper jacket from the silk market in Beijing. It is well stitched, made of real Gore tex and cost ten dollars. The zippers will probably blow out at an inopportune time and I will freeze to death. How many dirtbag points do I get?
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kjohnnytarr
Mar 8, 2007, 3:11 PM
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Funny: I was just on BikeForums, and there's a thread eerily similar to this one, about non-bikers wearing messenger bags...
Oh, and the good people at GoldMining.com are pissed about you people wearing Levi's. Can't you learn your place?!
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