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plurpimpin
Oct 30, 2007, 5:52 PM
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i'm looking for a pack to carry my rope, rack, and other gear up to the crag for a day of climbing. i want to be able to fit everything inside the pack (not strapped to the outside), how big of a pack should i get? i was looking at the arcteryx Needle 55 which i can get for under $100, would this be too big? the other pack i was looking at is the marmot eiger 36 but i'm afraid it will be too small, what do you guys think?
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climbingaggie03
Oct 30, 2007, 6:02 PM
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the pack you are looking at looks good, you don't need too big of a pack for cragging, cause you will have your partner to help you carry half the stuff. I think I would go with a pack more the size of the marmot cause you will probably want to climb with your pack on at some point and a big pack is a pain to climb with.
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jjanowia
Oct 30, 2007, 6:17 PM
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55L is more than you need for simply cragging, but with greater size comes greater versatility.
If you think you're ever gonna be using the pack for other things (e.g. backpacking, alpine climbing), then consider that as well.
My crag pack of choice is the Cilogear 40L worksack. Search around - the maker of them is 'crackers' on this board and others.
This pack is a good size for cragging, but also does duty as 'lightweight backpacking backpack', 'alpine climbing pack', and 'travel pack' quite nicely. More kizzash than the arcteryx you could get, but more versatile.
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guccipiggy
Oct 30, 2007, 6:18 PM
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If you can get the Needle for under $100.00 then get it. That's a heck of a deal. The Eiger will not fit your rope. I use a BD Predator 50 and it fits my rope and rack with plenty of extra space for everything else.
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vegastradguy
Oct 30, 2007, 6:23 PM
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who goes out to a crag with both the rack and the rope on your back?
anyway, generally speaking, a 40L pack is all you need for climbing.
if you actually want to stuff everything you own into a pack, though, the 55L Arc'teryx sounds good- and at under $100, it'd probably be some sort of felony not to purchase it.
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guccipiggy
Oct 30, 2007, 6:32 PM
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vegastradguy wrote: who goes out to a crag with both the rack and the rope on your back?
I do.
When climbing with my daughter, I carry all the gear. Hands free and no dangling rope for downclimbing.
Of course I could just throw the rope down too.
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brokenankle
Oct 30, 2007, 6:54 PM
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vegastradguy wrote: who goes out to a crag with both the rack and the rope on your back? anyway, generally speaking, a 40L pack is all you need for climbing.
Sometimes I do too. But i agree 40L is still plenty to carry a rope, water, and a standard rack (not a standard indian creek rack, but plenty)
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zeth01
Oct 30, 2007, 6:55 PM
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WWW.CILOGEAR.COM
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binrat
Oct 30, 2007, 9:20 PM
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55 Li for under $100. don't be foolish and get it. That's a steal of a deal.
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rogue10186
Oct 31, 2007, 4:01 AM
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Here's another nod to the cilogear 40l. It's a very comfortable pack to wear, and it gets the job done. It easily holds my rack, draws, harness or two, food, water, shoes, helmet on top, and a few other things no problem. Only thing I don't stick in there is the rope, but I;m not sure it'd fit with everything else. But that's what a partner is for!
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vegastradguy
Oct 31, 2007, 5:05 AM
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rogue10186 wrote: Here's another nod to the cilogear 40l. It's a very comfortable pack to wear, and it gets the job done. It easily holds my rack, draws, harness or two, food, water, shoes, helmet on top, and a few other things no problem. Only thing I don't stick in there is the rope, but I;m not sure it'd fit with everything else. But that's what a partner is for!
my 40L cilogear can easily hold a full double rack, shoes, helmet, water, food, and a rope. of course, this requires the sleeve being fully extended (up to the 60L position), but it'll still fit. however, i try never to actually put that much crap in it- i'm way too lazy and weak to haul that much stuff. better to let my partners do it while i carry the food and the ipod.
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spoon
Oct 31, 2007, 7:40 AM
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I've never understood the need for a "crag pack" if, and I guess that's a big if, you already own another large pack. If you have a pack for backpacking just shove all your gear into that. If you've still got space left over than cinch down the compression straps, that's what they're for. Don't buy another pack just because you plan on putting 50 liters of gear in your 55 liter pack.
If, of course, you plan to actually carry the thing up a climb, then that's a whole other story.
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overlord
Oct 31, 2007, 9:06 AM
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i ahve a 45l BD shadow for one day cragging and it works just fine. i just have to clip some things to the outside.
anyway, imho 45-55l is the ideal size for a cragging pack. big enough and not too big
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rhythm164
Oct 31, 2007, 11:39 AM
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I have a Black Diamond Quantum 45 that fits everything with a little wiggle room. Suspension is great too.
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rogue10186
Oct 31, 2007, 11:58 AM
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Ahhh so that's how you fit it all... I'll have to try that sometime.
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