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jacob80304
Aug 11, 2008, 11:28 PM
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I bike a lot, and I was wondering if it could hurt my climbing by building muscle in areas that aren't used when I climb. Is it added weight or does the exercise help my climbing?
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csproul
Aug 12, 2008, 12:21 AM
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jacob80304 wrote: I bike a lot, and I was wondering if it could hurt my climbing by building muscle in areas that aren't used when I climb. Is it added weight or does the exercise help my climbing? Added weight? You haven't spent much time around many serious cyclists have you? Not a lot of extra weight on most of them. I am pretty sure it won't help you climb one bit, but I doubt it'll hurt much except to take away from time that could be spent climbing.
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sungam
Aug 12, 2008, 12:31 AM
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Dunno, my friends who bike alot have got pretty stacked calves... I reckon it would reduce the old calf-pump on the ice quite a bit.
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jakedatc
Aug 12, 2008, 1:22 AM
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The cardio i've built up on the bike this year has made approaches alot easier this year. which in turn leaves you with a bit more energy to climb. leg strength will definitely help you.. hopefully you will gain a bit more flexibility from riding. I think it also balances out your arms and shoulders by doing some pushing (holding your self on the bars) rather than just all pulling
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jdefazio
Aug 12, 2008, 1:28 AM
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csproul wrote: jacob80304 wrote: I bike a lot, and I was wondering if it could hurt my climbing by building muscle in areas that aren't used when I climb. Is it added weight or does the exercise help my climbing? Added weight? You haven't spent much time around many serious cyclists have you? Not a lot of extra weight on most of them. I am pretty sure it won't help you climb one bit, but I doubt it'll hurt much except to take away from time that could be spent climbing. Unless you are scary strong like Marty here, whose legs would just crush the hardest granite on contact.
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jakedatc
Aug 12, 2008, 1:43 AM
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track guys are in a different class. most "normal" cyclists are fairly light weight and compact with a few exceptions like Ullrich or something.. lance is 5' 11 and was in the 150's for riding weight
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jdefazio
Aug 12, 2008, 2:41 AM
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Back when LA was winning tours, I recall him saying that he wanted to build a home climbing wall, but the inevitable addition of upper body muscle mass would be too detrimental to his riding to risk it. Hmmm, I wonder if he pulls hard now? I used to think that climbing helped my back feel better. Now I'm pretty well convinced that it just contributes to fewer hours in the saddle, which gives the same result.
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granite_grrl
Aug 12, 2008, 11:46 AM
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csproul wrote: jacob80304 wrote: I bike a lot, and I was wondering if it could hurt my climbing by building muscle in areas that aren't used when I climb. Is it added weight or does the exercise help my climbing? Added weight? You haven't spent much time around many serious cyclists have you? Not a lot of extra weight on most of them. I am pretty sure it won't help you climb one bit, but I doubt it'll hurt much except to take away from time that could be spent climbing. It depends on the style of riding you're into and how serious you are about it. I have found mtn bikers tend to get much bigger legs than road riders. Not that this is the rule by any means. In general though, if you are alread trim and lean it probobly does mean extra weight which you normally don't need for climbing (unless you're into alpine or something). BUT your the only one it matters to. If you'd rather be a few pounds heavier and happier because you're out riding then its all good. A little extra poundage won't be the end of the world to your climbing unless you're really gunning for that chalk sponsership.
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csproul
Aug 12, 2008, 12:24 PM
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granite_grrl wrote: csproul wrote: jacob80304 wrote: I bike a lot, and I was wondering if it could hurt my climbing by building muscle in areas that aren't used when I climb. Is it added weight or does the exercise help my climbing? Added weight? You haven't spent much time around many serious cyclists have you? Not a lot of extra weight on most of them. I am pretty sure it won't help you climb one bit, but I doubt it'll hurt much except to take away from time that could be spent climbing. It depends on the style of riding you're into and how serious you are about it. I have found mtn bikers tend to get much bigger legs than road riders. Not that this is the rule by any means. In general though, if you are alread trim and lean it probobly does mean extra weight which you normally don't need for climbing (unless you're into alpine or something). BUT your the only one it matters to. If you'd rather be a few pounds heavier and happier because you're out riding then its all good. A little extra poundage won't be the end of the world to your climbing unless you're really gunning for that chalk sponsership. Sure, mtn bikers generally are a little bigger than road riders and track sprinters are their own breed. But I think you'll find that most cyclists have those body types before they start riding in a particular discipline. In many years as a Cat 1 road racer (and a couple years with a pro license) and a semi-pro mtn biker, I never met cyclists who were worried about gaining weight from more riding. And serious cyclists are some of the most weight obsessed people I've met. In other words, if you can find people who gain weight with more bicycling, I think they are far and away the exception to the rule.
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Aug 12, 2008, 2:33 PM
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jacob80304 wrote: I bike a lot, and I was wondering if it could hurt my climbing by building muscle in areas that aren't used when I climb. Is it added weight or does the exercise help my climbing? Biking helped my climbing a whole lot. I don't typically get sewing machine/elvis legs anymore and approaches are easier.
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brent_e
Aug 12, 2008, 3:17 PM
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jacob80304 wrote: I bike a lot, and I was wondering if it could hurt my climbing by building muscle in areas that aren't used when I climb. Is it added weight or does the exercise help my climbing? if you climb really super hard then it might. if not, who cares? go and have fun doing whatever you like to do.
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Aug 12, 2008, 10:38 PM
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brent_e wrote: jacob80304 wrote: I bike a lot, and I was wondering if it could hurt my climbing by building muscle in areas that aren't used when I climb. Is it added weight or does the exercise help my climbing? if you climb really super hard then it might. if not, who cares? go and have fun doing whatever you like to do. I've heard fishing is really bad for your climbing.
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Aug 12, 2008, 10:49 PM
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Jacob, I've spent my life as a cyclist. I've also been a climber. And a triathlete. And a runner... Anyway, the key is balance. You won't, can't, will not climb your best while training hard on a bike. The same is true about cycling, if you're pushing your climbing and not out at the races, you'll get dropped. Decide what is important when and focus on that, then accept subpar performance in the other areas. Being in good shape is just nice though, you feel better and recover faster. As long as you aren't looking to race and win in Cat 2, you should be fine.
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sungam
Aug 12, 2008, 11:30 PM
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angry wrote: I've spent my life as a cyclist. I've also been a climber. And a triathlete. And a runner...
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angry wrote: Jacob, I've spent my life as a cyclist. I've also been a climber. And a triathlete. And a runner... Anyway, the key is balance drugs. You won't, can't, will not climb your best while training hard on a bike. The same is true about cycling, if you're pushing your climbing and not out at the races storing your blood and transfusing it later, you'll get dropped. Fixed.
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prawza
Aug 13, 2008, 2:03 AM
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^^ROFL^^
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angry
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jdefazio wrote: angry wrote: Jacob, I've spent my life as a cyclist. I've also been a climber. And a triathlete. And a runner... Anyway, the key is balance drugs. You won't, can't, will not climb your best while training hard on a bike. The same is true about cycling, if you're pushing your climbing and not out at the races storing your blood and transfusing it later, you'll get dropped. Fixed. This is correct
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blonde_loves_bolts
Aug 14, 2008, 7:43 PM
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I've been biking consistently for the first time in my life for about the past four months. I also just started spinning. I think my thighs have definitely gotten bigger, and I have not been eating more... I hope this is not a trend.
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sungam
Aug 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
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what is this "spinning" you speak of?
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chossmonkey
Aug 14, 2008, 10:39 PM
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sungam wrote: what is this "spinning" you speak of? Put your finger on top of your head and turn, until you fall over or puke.
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sungam
Aug 14, 2008, 11:25 PM
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double staff meets poi? I do a fair amount of fire stick work, good fun. The firelight brings out the fucking midges, though.
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climbingtrash
Aug 14, 2008, 11:55 PM
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sungam wrote: double staff meets poi? I do a fair amount of fire stick work, good fun. The firelight brings out the fucking midges, though. Fucking midges?!? In the states we call those trust fund Hippies.
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rockrock513
Aug 26, 2008, 10:13 PM
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in all seriousness... it does depend on what your goals are... you won't become a better climber by riding a bike, but some cardio work will help your overall climbing fitness... and i don't think that your legs are all the sudden going to baloon into Marty N's... now after 5+ years of cycling and not climbing (and no doping, you twats) i am the same weight, but my upper body is not as muscular and my laegs are much larger than they were in the climbing days.
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