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curt
Aug 14, 2008, 3:52 AM
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Marty Karabin just spent an extended stay up at Blue Ridge, so I'll ask him about the routes you mention. I don't believe there is any prohibition against climbing there, however, so I'm not sure what you are so worked-up about.
Curt
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rockforlife
Aug 14, 2008, 5:06 AM
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mountainjunkie wrote: Went to Blue Ridge last weekend to get away and let the dogs play in the water. Not realizing there was climbing in the area, came across what appeared to be newly bolted lines right on the road edge with bright shiny bolts. It really pissed me off, with all the access concerns today. I can't believe someone would bolt on chossy rock no more than 30 feet tall half of which is formed from road cut, with many routes no more than four feet apart and with some bolts three feet apart on route!! Who ever put these up pull your head out of your ass!! At the very least use colored hangers to match the rock in such a well traveled area by non climbers. The last thing we need is the forest service upset with us. Joe Garcia
If that is the case what is the big deal, right on the road and "man made" would it be better on some clifs right of a local trail.
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mountainjunkie
Aug 14, 2008, 1:43 PM
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Went to Blue Ridge last weekend to get away and let the dogs play in the water. Not realizing there was climbing in the area, came across what appeared to be newly bolted lines right on the road edge with bright shiny bolts. It really pissed me off, with all the access concerns today. I can't believe someone would bolt on chossy rock no more than 30 feet tall half of which is formed from road cut, with many routes no more than four feet apart and with some bolts three feet apart on route!! Who ever put these up pull your head out of your ass!! At the very least use colored hangers to match the rock in such a well traveled area by non climbers. The last thing we need is the forest service upset with us.
Don't know what happened didn't mean to delete. Look my only concern is the location that was chosen and granted it is totally up to who is establishing the route. But to me the location wasn't thought out very well, with all the rock in Az why choose the edge of a well traveled road on rock that is choss. To me it makes it look like climbers are just out there throwin bolts on any given rock they lay there hands on!
Joe
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sonso45
Aug 18, 2008, 7:18 PM
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Joe has a right to be worried about the routes' location. Although, Marty has a lot of experience developing routes, so I am sure he picked a safe spot, keeping drivers and climbers separated. I'll have to drive up and check em out.
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sonso45
Aug 22, 2008, 4:23 PM
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Marty advised me that the routes on the road are not his. Anybody wanna claim em?
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sjderis
Aug 26, 2008, 3:01 PM
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sonso45 wrote: Joe has a right to be worried about the routes' location. Although, Marty has a lot of experience developing routes, so I am sure he picked a safe spot, keeping drivers and climbers separated. I'll have to drive up and check em out.
I agree. Marty has always been a proponent of safe climbing and routes that keep the climbers out of the eye of "the man". This foolishness is noob...
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