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kriztoffer79
Feb 2, 2009, 8:32 PM
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Three people going on a 5-6 day winter ascent two days from now. Has anyone had any experience with sleeping 3 people in a double portaledge? The ledge is totally open inside, no "separation" in the middle, only a cord from the top to the middle of the floor.
I suspect it will be cramped, but if anyone have had any experience with this I'd appreciate feedback.
Thanks 
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krusher4
Feb 2, 2009, 8:46 PM
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Two people on a double is pretty right doesn't sound like your be very comfy or able to lay down and if weather is bad/cold/ windy cooking in there could be troublesome. If you'll be doing long (time) aid pitches someone could always catch cat naps. I would say pool your money together before you leave and get a single ledge for your third.
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dingus
Feb 2, 2009, 8:51 PM
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Just experience with two. Our 3rd couldn't come.
I would love to read your trip report when you return!
DMT
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reg
Feb 2, 2009, 8:53 PM
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i have no expierence with the ledge but do winter camp. thinkin about it - i'd say your gonna be miserable, esp. if the weather bogs you down. one night maybe but 5-6! never
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kriztoffer79
Feb 2, 2009, 10:38 PM
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Hmmm, thinking of getting hold of a hammock which we then could mount diagonally under the portaledge, and we could take turns sleeping in it.
My only concern is if the ledge then will be loaded in an way that might twist it, or weaken it. If so we can always use slings from all the four corners so the weight of the hammock will be distributed evenly.
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xtrmecat
Feb 2, 2009, 11:14 PM
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Short answer, not me,no sir,uh-uh. Man talk about a little too much suffering.
Longer answer, if there is a chance of someone staying on lead through the night and an occasional natural ledge, then maybe, but bogged by weather as someone above mentioned could end in the bivy from hell. A hammock provides no storm protection which is to me, why I have a fly. Once committed to the Point Of No Return, it would be hard to protect all three of you, and structurally it could possibly get pulled off, but not something I would personally commit to.
Nice to see someone else ready to wall this winter. May I pry as to where?
Bob
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dingus
Feb 2, 2009, 11:17 PM
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Volfy said DO IT!
DMT
ps. How bout that clip in? The Are See dot Calm safety police would not approve! That's not a Rescue 8 haha!
(This post was edited by dingus on Feb 2, 2009, 11:19 PM)
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camhead
Feb 3, 2009, 3:21 PM
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dingus wrote: Volfy said DO IT! [img]http://www.goalps.com/6-Alpinist/W/WolfgangGullich.jpg[/img] DMT ps. How bout that clip in? The Are See dot Calm safety police would not approve! That's not a Rescue 8 haha!
YOU MAKE DIE N00B!!!!111
On a similar topic, I've always wondered how my single portaledge would fit me and my wife, who is on the small side (5'2" 110 lbs). not sure when/if we would ever use it, though, since I do not really like aid climbing OR grade VI's.
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kriztoffer79
Feb 3, 2009, 3:33 PM
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Now that's a killer pic! It seems the third guy is backing out now, not motivated enough. But the remaining two of us are super motivated.
It is a nce steep wall in Norway near Stavanger called Tauveggen. It's only about 1300 feet, bit it will be the first winter ascent of that wall, so we're looking forward to it. Leaving thursday if all goes as planned.
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dingus
Feb 3, 2009, 3:40 PM
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Sounds COLD dude.
If you have time check out what your fellow hard men are up to down Patagonia way....
(can you imagine a 4 day stay in a portaledge with THREE PEOPLE???!!!)
http://www.jakeandlee.blogspot.com/
The pic (I'm guessing you know) is of Wolfgang Gullich on Riders on the Storm, in Patagonia. The link ^^^^^ is 'on topic.'
Cheers
DMT
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xtrmecat
Feb 3, 2009, 7:06 PM
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Damn Dingus, that was what I tried to say, only you say it much better. Hard core for sure, great stuff.
Bob
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kriztoffer79
Feb 4, 2009, 12:34 AM
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It's supposed to be not so windy, some snow, temp. no lower than 19F (-7C). So actually I wouldn't mind sleeping in the hammock, as long a it's not too windy. But not every night. Would make some really cool pictures :-)
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