are you eating the same things you eat everyday for breakfast? I usually only eat a small breakfast when I'm climbing such as an oatmeal packet or clif bar, then just eat clif bars through the day with a filling dinner.

could the stomach ached be caused by something like excitedness/nervousness about your day of climbing?

Try eating nothing before you leave. That works pretty well for me. Lara Bars at the base seem to fill in the day.
Mal

for ryanb

And how exactly do "Real foods and locally produced" solve this problem?

Or is that an answer you give for all food-ish problems?

All i know is what worked for me after years of pretty much constant diarrhea. (I once had to shit in full view of a romantic interest on our 2nd date/first multi pitch climb together.)

Your millage may vary but I think less processed, fresh in season foods simply digest at a more regular rate and are less likely to be contaminated or spoiled.

I hear that story brother, got some myself, but why drag this thread down?

I buy the fresh and simple, but not the contaminated. Peanut Butter, until 2 years ago was considerd a practically idiot proof to manufacture.

If we have a rockclimbing.com "how quick can you get 100 meter from running water and digg a six inch hole competition," maybe metolius will sponsor it (funny)..

Let me see if I can convince you on the contamination issue. I haven't seen any studies on it but i think the argument is sound.

The idea is that, at the moment, the main cause of contamination is lax standards caused by the anoninimity of food production.

One major source of contamination is ingredients that are sourced from areas with laxer hygiene or environmental standards (like the chinese powdered milk scare this last fall.)

Another major source of contamination is high density agriculture...if there is more shit around your food you are more likely to end up eating some of it. We have standards and practices in place to prevent this (pasteurization, agricultural antibiotic use, regular inspection) but they clearly don't always work (as we have seen with peanut butter, spinach, beef...)

Buying from smaller local, non anonymous, producers generally means you are paying a bit more for something produced in a less high density environment. In practical terms you are eliminating the time cows spend in packed in shit filled feed lots and train cars and supporting people who notice if one of their neighbors starts dumping in their water supply...

It would be unsafe to drink un-pasteurized milk from a factory dairy farm but i feel fine drinking raw milk from the healthy, un-medicated cows at a small, low yield farm near one of the spots i climb (it even has "good bacteria" that help digest it).

As an added bonus, you also get a richer complement of nutrients from food grown through crop-rotation etc then from food fertilized with synthetic compounds.

Health Farm, Healthy Animals, Healthy Plants = Healthy Guts = Healthy Poo = More Long Routes

so my bad, i just realized i posted this on my g/f account not mine. sorry about that.

i've tried oatmeal or other complex carbs, along with a banana, and this gave me ok results...

as for shitting in the woods... im talking about my asshole exploding kind of shitting, not the kind i want to deal with without a porcelain shit receptacle.

i climb a lot-ish (2 times a month outside, 2-3 times a week inside) is so i dont think it should really be my nerves causing it (although i agree, this seems to be the only other logical explanation). it happens when sporting or top-roping at the crag i've been to 100 times, or tradding in less familiar territory.

i have trouble not eating at least some protein at breakfast for an active day. i seem to digest the carbs (complex or simple) fast enough to make me start really feeling hungry soon after (1hr or so after eating)

honestly though.... i probably havnt been keeping as much track to it as much as i should have. i pretty much only remember how crappy i felt all day, and that i happens whenever i go climbing

yea im not doing that, what else you got?

i eat regular non-organic food everyday, only have this problem when i climb, so i dont think its from the supposed harsh chemicals or dangerous contaminants in my food.

If we have a rockclimbing.com "how quick can you get 100 meter from running water and digg a six inch hole competition," maybe metolius will sponsor it (funny)..

Let me see if I can convince you on the contamination issue. I haven't seen any studies on it but i think the argument is sound.

The idea is that, at the moment, the main cause of contamination is lax standards caused by the anoninimity of food production.

One major source of contamination is ingredients that are sourced from areas with laxer hygiene or environmental standards (like the chinese powdered milk scare this last fall.)

Another major source of contamination is high density agriculture...if there is more shit around your food you are more likely to end up eating some of it. We have standards and practices in place to prevent this (pasteurization, agricultural antibiotic use, regular inspection) but they clearly don't always work (as we have seen with peanut butter, spinach, beef...)

Buying from smaller local, non anonymous, producers generally means you are paying a bit more for something produced in a less high density environment. In practical terms you are eliminating the time cows spend in packed in shit filled feed lots and train cars and supporting people who notice if one of their neighbors starts dumping in their water supply...

It would be unsafe to drink un-pasteurized milk from a factory dairy farm but i feel fine drinking raw milk from the healthy, un-medicated cows at a small, low yield farm near one of the spots i climb (it even has "good bacteria" that help digest it).

As an added bonus, you also get a richer complement of nutrients from food grown through crop-rotation etc then from food fertilized with synthetic compounds.

Health Farm, Healthy Animals, Healthy Plants = Healthy Guts = Healthy Poo = More Long Routes

yea im not doing that, what else you got?

i eat regular non-organic food everyday, only have this problem when i climb, so i dont think its from the supposed harsh chemicals or dangerous contaminants in my food.