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jacojone
Mar 24, 2009, 9:04 PM
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Guys,
Long time lurker, newbie poster.
Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI.
If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure.
Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does?
Thanks,
Jacob
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patmay81
Mar 24, 2009, 9:50 PM
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that seems kind of extreme to me, no more climbing at all? There are people who climb (and crank pretty hard) with only one hand. It seems like you should be able to climb, maybe a few grades lower than your normal onsight with a fixed wrist. I dunno though, I'm no doctor.
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Mar 24, 2009, 10:01 PM
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Jacob...
Bummer.
All I can say is, if all of the people who doctors said would "never walk again" never actually walked again, there would be a lot more wheelchairs sold.
First, always seek a second opinion before any elective surgery. If the injury is not recent enough to avoid surgery, you should have plenty of time to decide, and to consult other surgeons. Find out if there is a surgeon around who treats a professional or major college sports team. That's the kind of surgeon you want.
If you cannot see another surgeon, for whatever reason, ask if there is any other option, like what would be the likely outcome if you did not have surgery.
Be nice. But ask for some evidence. Express your unwillingness to undergo a radical procedure without it. Research, and do your own due diligence.
When (not if) you start climbing again, break in with lots of nice safe topropes.
BTW, how did the bones displace in the cast? Were you screwing around with the cast, and showing off, and banging it on stuff?
Best of luck. Stay in touch.
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jacojone
Mar 24, 2009, 11:26 PM
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I am in the process of getting a second opinion. From what I have read online, reconstruction is a mixed bag. Only the all stars attempt the procedure this far down the line, and the results are highly variable. Good outcome would be a fragile joint with reduced mobility.
They don't know why it separated. I didnt fall/grab or do anything stupid while it was in a cast. It just happens sometimes apparently, but the overlooked ligament damage contributed to the likelihood.
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aerili
Mar 25, 2009, 12:12 AM
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A climbing friend told me he has another climbing friend who wore his scaphoid away completely from hammering for so many years. He also injured his lunate, among other things, and has lost most of the motion in his hand, but he still climbs! And does everything else in his day-to-day life while taking more than 1500 mg of pain meds daily!
So I guess he will just end up not being able to climb due to kidney failure in the end.
So, anyway, it sure seems like it must be possible to climb with limited motion of the wrist/hand. I would think surgery wouldn't leave you in as much pain in the long run, either (I'm sure the whole reason is to avoid such pain by fusing)...cause I'm not sure kidney sacrifice is worth it?!
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Mar 25, 2009, 4:27 AM
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J-
Now that's an interesting scenario, I don't think that I've ever heard something like that happening.
I can't really speak to the long term side effects of either doing the surgery or not. I would assume that the biggest fear going the route of not fusing the unstable joints would be accelerated joint damage due to osteoarthritis, which in the long run would, IMO, be more problematic than having the joint fused. You'd obviously lose some mobility but the structure would at least be more stable.
To answer your question. I've know a handful of climbers who have fractured various aspects of the wrist and have had the damage repaired surgically. All of them have less available range of motion in the wrist than before but all of them still climb and say that it is limiting only in specific situations. The most common being that they have difficulty manteling since wrist extension is more difficult.
Good luck w/ the injury, if you don't mind I would be interested to hear what the MRI shows, and which joints the surgeon reccomends fusing.
cheers, BA
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Mar 25, 2009, 6:20 AM
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this thread definately needs more follow up. I really want to hear second and even third opinions if you can manage.
I am currently on week 5 of a Scaphoid / Lunate ligament tear and doing great. I wore a splint for 3 weeks, and have had little ROM loss.
I really think you should seek multiple opinions, as well as research it very extensively online. Not just what you want to hear, but fully explore your predicament.
g'l.
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I have a friend whose wrist was fused as a child and she boulders and climbs hard. She does have a crazy huge thumb muscle development between her thumb and pointer finger. It's really quite amazing!
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jacojone
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That is good to hear guys. I will give updates as things progress
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Jaco, Your doc is correct. Had they diagnosed it correctly initially, they could have tried other things. Now , it is too late. The bigger problem you may face is the scaphoid bone not healing due to disruption of the blood supply. . .the bone just dies do to lack of nutrients. You should have cut back on your activities for a bit. You may be using your hand too much. There are some newer techniques that use mesh and glue to hold the bones together and that provides a little more flexibility than the steel. . .but most doctors will not use it because it is considered 'experimental' and they want to be paid and not sued. It is only the high end sports physicians using it with professional athletes at this time.
I do have good news for you though. I have seen many motocross racers have this surgery and go on to compete at a high level. That was not true 20 years ago. Climbing is probably the second most demanding sport on wrists next to motocross. Once it is stable and you have rehabbed it you can climb. Will there be limitations? Yes, but we adapt to challenge by our nature and it will only make you more aware of the possibilities climbing provides. Will it be just like before, no. But carry on young man, live the life you want.
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Update:
I got a second opinion from a well regarded wrist surgeon. Instead of fusion, I decided to have the my scaphoid screwed back together. Should be out of my cast in 4 weeks. Total cast time ~6 months. 2.5 months since surgery.
After rehab and physical therapy, evaluate wrist and determine if another surgery to repair the ligament is necessary. This is likely.
If repair fails, step 3 is to create a new wrist joint via a newer technique (forget the name). That fails, 4 corner total wrist fusion.
Ill post another update in a couple of months.
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rtwilli4
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jacojone wrote: Guys, Long time lurker, newbie poster. Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI. If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure. Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does? Thanks, Jacob
I have a good friend that basically fell to his death when he was 23, and lived to tell the tale. He broke every bone in his body. They thought he was dead so they didn't even try to fix him up that good to begin with. He got staph. auer. infections, etc. By the time they were able to operate, it was too late.
He had both wrists fused, not to mention one ankle. He is now 48 years old. In the 25 years since his accident, he has established 5.12's ground up, climbed at a 5.10 level at every major climbing area in N. America, put up dozens of new routes and re-bolted hundreds in Thailand, and he still climbs!
The guy is no physical specimen either. He can barely pick up a beer bottle! Just very passionate.
I also know a guy who climbs 5.12 with one hand. Anything is possible. If you want it, you can do it. GOOD LUCK!!
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rtwilli4 wrote: jacojone wrote: Guys, Long time lurker, newbie poster. Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI. If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure. Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does? Thanks, Jacob I have a good friend that basically fell to his death when he was 23, and lived to tell the tale. He broke every bone in his body. They thought he was dead so they didn't even try to fix him up that good to begin with. He got staph. auer. infections, etc. By the time they were able to operate, it was too late. He had both wrists fused, not to mention one ankle. He is now 48 years old. In the 25 years since his accident, he has established 5.12's ground up, climbed at a 5.10 level at every major climbing area in N. America, put up dozens of new routes and re-bolted hundreds in Thailand, and he still climbs! The guy is no physical specimen either. He can barely pick up a beer bottle! Just very passionate. I also know a guy who climbs 5.12 with one hand. Anything is possible. If you want it, you can do it. GOOD LUCK!!
I didn't realize it was Hyper Bowl season!
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altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: jacojone wrote: Guys, Long time lurker, newbie poster. Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI. If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure. Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does? Thanks, Jacob I have a good friend that basically fell to his death when he was 23, and lived to tell the tale. He broke every bone in his body. They thought he was dead so they didn't even try to fix him up that good to begin with. He got staph. auer. infections, etc. By the time they were able to operate, it was too late. He had both wrists fused, not to mention one ankle. He is now 48 years old. In the 25 years since his accident, he has established 5.12's ground up, climbed at a 5.10 level at every major climbing area in N. America, put up dozens of new routes and re-bolted hundreds in Thailand, and he still climbs! The guy is no physical specimen either. He can barely pick up a beer bottle! Just very passionate. I also know a guy who climbs 5.12 with one hand. Anything is possible. If you want it, you can do it. GOOD LUCK!! I didn't realize it was Hyper Bowl season!
What's Hyper Bowl?
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altelis
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rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: jacojone wrote: Guys, Long time lurker, newbie poster. Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI. If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure. Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does? Thanks, Jacob I have a good friend that basically fell to his death when he was 23, and lived to tell the tale. He broke every bone in his body. They thought he was dead so they didn't even try to fix him up that good to begin with. He got staph. auer. infections, etc. By the time they were able to operate, it was too late. He had both wrists fused, not to mention one ankle. He is now 48 years old. In the 25 years since his accident, he has established 5.12's ground up, climbed at a 5.10 level at every major climbing area in N. America, put up dozens of new routes and re-bolted hundreds in Thailand, and he still climbs! The guy is no physical specimen either. He can barely pick up a beer bottle! Just very passionate. I also know a guy who climbs 5.12 with one hand. Anything is possible. If you want it, you can do it. GOOD LUCK!! I didn't realize it was Hyper Bowl season! What's Hyper Bowl?
you know, like when instead of saying that "that sandwich was tasty" you say "that sandwich was the best thing i've ever eaten! ever. the bread was so fresh and it had the most amazing relish, with exactly the right amount of lettuce and tomato. it was just crunchy and fresh enough without tasting like a salad. the ham was absolutely divine, like zeus himself cured it on mount olympus......"
you know. hyper bowl.
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rtwilli4
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altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: jacojone wrote: Guys, Long time lurker, newbie poster. Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI. If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure. Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does? Thanks, Jacob I have a good friend that basically fell to his death when he was 23, and lived to tell the tale. He broke every bone in his body. They thought he was dead so they didn't even try to fix him up that good to begin with. He got staph. auer. infections, etc. By the time they were able to operate, it was too late. He had both wrists fused, not to mention one ankle. He is now 48 years old. In the 25 years since his accident, he has established 5.12's ground up, climbed at a 5.10 level at every major climbing area in N. America, put up dozens of new routes and re-bolted hundreds in Thailand, and he still climbs! The guy is no physical specimen either. He can barely pick up a beer bottle! Just very passionate. I also know a guy who climbs 5.12 with one hand. Anything is possible. If you want it, you can do it. GOOD LUCK!! I didn't realize it was Hyper Bowl season! What's Hyper Bowl? you know, like when instead of saying that "that sandwich was tasty" you say "that sandwich was the best thing i've ever eaten! ever. the bread was so fresh and it had the most amazing relish, with exactly the right amount of lettuce and tomato. it was just crunchy and fresh enough without tasting like a salad. the ham was absolutely divine, like zeus himself cured it on mount olympus......" you know. hyper bowl.
I still don't get it. Let me try:
You are being the biggest asshole in the history of the planet. You are such a huge asshole that there is not a gay man in the world that would actually enjoy bending you over and fucking you. In fact, you are so big that one guy actually fell in! I'm sure you enjoyed that.
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rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: jacojone wrote: Guys, Long time lurker, newbie poster. Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI. If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure. Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does? Thanks, Jacob I have a good friend that basically fell to his death when he was 23, and lived to tell the tale. He broke every bone in his body. They thought he was dead so they didn't even try to fix him up that good to begin with. He got staph. auer. infections, etc. By the time they were able to operate, it was too late. He had both wrists fused, not to mention one ankle. He is now 48 years old. In the 25 years since his accident, he has established 5.12's ground up, climbed at a 5.10 level at every major climbing area in N. America, put up dozens of new routes and re-bolted hundreds in Thailand, and he still climbs! The guy is no physical specimen either. He can barely pick up a beer bottle! Just very passionate. I also know a guy who climbs 5.12 with one hand. Anything is possible. If you want it, you can do it. GOOD LUCK!! I didn't realize it was Hyper Bowl season! What's Hyper Bowl? you know, like when instead of saying that "that sandwich was tasty" you say "that sandwich was the best thing i've ever eaten! ever. the bread was so fresh and it had the most amazing relish, with exactly the right amount of lettuce and tomato. it was just crunchy and fresh enough without tasting like a salad. the ham was absolutely divine, like zeus himself cured it on mount olympus......" you know. hyper bowl. I still don't get it. Let me try: You are being the biggest asshole in the history of the planet. You are such a huge asshole that there is not a gay man in the world that would actually enjoy bending you over and fucking you. In fact, you are so big that one guy actually fell in! I'm sure you enjoyed that.
Yep. Definitely hyper bowl, just not sure why you don't get it still.
Step 1: take a four syllable word that is a synonym for exaggeration.
Step 2: split that word equally into the 1st two and last two syllables.
Step 3: pronounce the, now, second word as it looks like it should be pronounced and not as it should normally be pronounced were it still attached to its first 2 syllables.
Step 4: mutter "oooooooh" as you realize why its Hyper Bowl season....
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altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: jacojone wrote: Guys, Long time lurker, newbie poster. Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI. If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure. Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does? Thanks, Jacob I have a good friend that basically fell to his death when he was 23, and lived to tell the tale. He broke every bone in his body. They thought he was dead so they didn't even try to fix him up that good to begin with. He got staph. auer. infections, etc. By the time they were able to operate, it was too late. He had both wrists fused, not to mention one ankle. He is now 48 years old. In the 25 years since his accident, he has established 5.12's ground up, climbed at a 5.10 level at every major climbing area in N. America, put up dozens of new routes and re-bolted hundreds in Thailand, and he still climbs! The guy is no physical specimen either. He can barely pick up a beer bottle! Just very passionate. I also know a guy who climbs 5.12 with one hand. Anything is possible. If you want it, you can do it. GOOD LUCK!! I didn't realize it was Hyper Bowl season! What's Hyper Bowl? you know, like when instead of saying that "that sandwich was tasty" you say "that sandwich was the best thing i've ever eaten! ever. the bread was so fresh and it had the most amazing relish, with exactly the right amount of lettuce and tomato. it was just crunchy and fresh enough without tasting like a salad. the ham was absolutely divine, like zeus himself cured it on mount olympus......" you know. hyper bowl. I still don't get it. Let me try: You are being the biggest asshole in the history of the planet. You are such a huge asshole that there is not a gay man in the world that would actually enjoy bending you over and fucking you. In fact, you are so big that one guy actually fell in! I'm sure you enjoyed that. Yep. Definitely hyper bowl, just not sure why you don't get it still. Step 1: take a four syllable word that is a synonym for exaggeration. Step 2: split that word equally into the 1st two and last two syllables. Step 3: pronounce the, now, second word as it looks like it should be pronounced and not as it should normally be pronounced were it still attached to its first 2 syllables. Step 4: mutter "oooooooh" as you realize why its Hyper Bowl season....
I'm not stupid... I got that a while back.
I'm not exaggerating... at all. Why would I?
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rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: you know, like when instead of saying that "that sandwich was tasty" you say "that sandwich was the best thing i've ever eaten! ever. the bread was so fresh and it had the most amazing relish, with exactly the right amount of lettuce and tomato. it was just crunchy and fresh enough without tasting like a salad. the ham was absolutely divine, like zeus himself cured it on mount olympus......" you know. hyper bowl. I still don't get it. Let me try: You are being the biggest asshole in the history of the planet. You are such a huge asshole that there is not a gay man in the world that would actually enjoy bending you over and fucking you. In fact, you are so big that one guy actually fell in! I'm sure you enjoyed that.
I score it:
[rtwilli4] 1
[altelis] 0
The second one was much funnier.
But then again, I'm also an ice skating judge. From France.
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rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: jacojone wrote: Guys, Long time lurker, newbie poster. Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI. If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure. Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does? Thanks, Jacob I have a good friend that basically fell to his death when he was 23, and lived to tell the tale. He broke every bone in his body. They thought he was dead so they didn't even try to fix him up that good to begin with. He got staph. auer. infections, etc. By the time they were able to operate, it was too late. He had both wrists fused, not to mention one ankle. He is now 48 years old. In the 25 years since his accident, he has established 5.12's ground up, climbed at a 5.10 level at every major climbing area in N. America, put up dozens of new routes and re-bolted hundreds in Thailand, and he still climbs! The guy is no physical specimen either. He can barely pick up a beer bottle! Just very passionate. I also know a guy who climbs 5.12 with one hand. Anything is possible. If you want it, you can do it. GOOD LUCK!! I didn't realize it was Hyper Bowl season! What's Hyper Bowl? you know, like when instead of saying that "that sandwich was tasty" you say "that sandwich was the best thing i've ever eaten! ever. the bread was so fresh and it had the most amazing relish, with exactly the right amount of lettuce and tomato. it was just crunchy and fresh enough without tasting like a salad. the ham was absolutely divine, like zeus himself cured it on mount olympus......" you know. hyper bowl. I still don't get it. Let me try: You are being the biggest asshole in the history of the planet. You are such a huge asshole that there is not a gay man in the world that would actually enjoy bending you over and fucking you. In fact, you are so big that one guy actually fell in! I'm sure you enjoyed that. Yep. Definitely hyper bowl, just not sure why you don't get it still. Step 1: take a four syllable word that is a synonym for exaggeration. Step 2: split that word equally into the 1st two and last two syllables. Step 3: pronounce the, now, second word as it looks like it should be pronounced and not as it should normally be pronounced were it still attached to its first 2 syllables. Step 4: mutter "oooooooh" as you realize why its Hyper Bowl season.... I'm not stupid... I got that a while back. I'm not exaggerating... at all. Why would I?
now i'm confused. is the "i'm not exaggerating...at all" supposed to be real? sarcastic? exaggeration?
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altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: altelis wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: jacojone wrote: Guys, Long time lurker, newbie poster. Broke my scaphoid snowboading 8 weeks ago and, since it wasnt displaced, I didnt need to get it screwed together. I went back yesterday for a follow up and found out that the bone had become displaced while in the cast. I was referred to a hand specialist. He noticed that the lunate bone was displaced as well (sign of a ligament tear) and, to be sure, I am getting an MRI. If this is the case, he said I will have to get my wrist joint fused together because the tear is not recent enough to be repaired surgically. Obviously, losing a wrist joint significantly impacts one's quality of lifef. Doc says no more climbing for sure. Anyone here climb on a fused wrist joint? Know of someone who does? Thanks, Jacob I have a good friend that basically fell to his death when he was 23, and lived to tell the tale. He broke every bone in his body. They thought he was dead so they didn't even try to fix him up that good to begin with. He got staph. auer. infections, etc. By the time they were able to operate, it was too late. He had both wrists fused, not to mention one ankle. He is now 48 years old. In the 25 years since his accident, he has established 5.12's ground up, climbed at a 5.10 level at every major climbing area in N. America, put up dozens of new routes and re-bolted hundreds in Thailand, and he still climbs! The guy is no physical specimen either. He can barely pick up a beer bottle! Just very passionate. I also know a guy who climbs 5.12 with one hand. Anything is possible. If you want it, you can do it. GOOD LUCK!! I didn't realize it was Hyper Bowl season! What's Hyper Bowl? you know, like when instead of saying that "that sandwich was tasty" you say "that sandwich was the best thing i've ever eaten! ever. the bread was so fresh and it had the most amazing relish, with exactly the right amount of lettuce and tomato. it was just crunchy and fresh enough without tasting like a salad. the ham was absolutely divine, like zeus himself cured it on mount olympus......" you know. hyper bowl. I still don't get it. Let me try: You are being the biggest asshole in the history of the planet. You are such a huge asshole that there is not a gay man in the world that would actually enjoy bending you over and fucking you. In fact, you are so big that one guy actually fell in! I'm sure you enjoyed that. Yep. Definitely hyper bowl, just not sure why you don't get it still. Step 1: take a four syllable word that is a synonym for exaggeration. Step 2: split that word equally into the 1st two and last two syllables. Step 3: pronounce the, now, second word as it looks like it should be pronounced and not as it should normally be pronounced were it still attached to its first 2 syllables. Step 4: mutter "oooooooh" as you realize why its Hyper Bowl season.... I'm not stupid... I got that a while back. I'm not exaggerating... at all. Why would I? now i'm confused. is the "i'm not exaggerating...at all" supposed to be real? sarcastic? exaggeration?
It's real. Everything I said was true. I'm talking about one of my best friends, someone I have a lot of respect for, and someone that you have probably seen or heard of if you have been a part of the climbing community any time in the last three decades.
I was trying to answer a question that I thought was important, and now we have both screwed the thread up.
Apologies to the OP. I'm done with this now.
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glytch
Jun 5, 2009, 3:35 AM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: I score it: [rtwilli4] 1 [altelis] 0
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Toast_in_the_Machine
Jun 5, 2009, 3:43 AM
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rtwilli4 wrote: I was trying to answer a question that I thought was important, and now we have both screwed the thread up. Apologies to the OP. I'm done with this now.
AAhhhhh, eeehhhhwwww. Sorry, variations of “I’m out of here” are an automatic half a point deduction. Plus another half point deduction for stating that any thread here could get screwed up by going off topic into a bitchslap fest.
That leaves the score:
[rtwilli4] 0
[altelis] 0
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jacojone
Jun 5, 2009, 3:44 AM
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No worries Rt. Cant avoid douchebags like Alt.
But for the love of god, quit quoting one another - my scroll wheel is crying. :D
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altelis
Jun 5, 2009, 3:49 AM
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jacojone wrote: ... But for the love of god, quit quoting one another - my scroll wheel is crying. :D
So young and so much to learn in the ways of the rc.knob "get the other's goat" game....its a shame, really
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