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rk2000
Apr 24, 2010, 4:14 AM
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Ok.. winter is over i am 20lbs heavier and can barely drag my ass up 5.10... its mostly muscle mass in my legs from skiing and i am wondering dose anyone have any tips for a muscle weight loss..
cheers
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jbro_135
Apr 24, 2010, 5:22 AM
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don't use your legs so much? it will go away if you don't use it
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fist
Apr 24, 2010, 5:32 AM
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Get a wheelchair for a few weeks. Muscle loss for the legs and a nice workout for the arms. It's a win-win situation.
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shimanilami
Apr 24, 2010, 6:49 AM
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rk2000 wrote: ... i am 20lbs heavier ... its mostly muscle mass in my legs from skiing...
I call bullshit.
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Grizvok
Apr 24, 2010, 4:15 PM
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shimanilami wrote: rk2000 wrote: ... i am 20lbs heavier ... its mostly muscle mass in my legs from skiing... I call bullshit.
Obviously. An added 20 lbs of "mostly muscle mass" in the leg area would make his legs look really really fucking massive.
Before and after pictures or you sir are a liar.
Or you just got fat.
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jcrew
Apr 24, 2010, 4:48 PM
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Grizvok wrote: shimanilami wrote: rk2000 wrote: ... i am 20lbs heavier ... its mostly muscle mass in my legs from skiing... I call bullshit. Obviously. An added 20 lbs of "mostly muscle mass" in the leg area would make his legs look really really fucking massive. Before and after pictures or you sir are a liar. Or you just got fat.
if he was skiing bumps all year, his legs could get huge.
i agree with the wheelchair, a diet of only roadside sport cragging on overhanging rock, and making his girlfriend carry the pack from the house to the car.
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sidepull
Apr 24, 2010, 6:36 PM
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rk2000 wrote: Ok.. winter is over i am 20lbs heavier and can barely drag my ass up 5.10... its mostly muscle mass in my legs from skiing and i am wondering dose anyone have any tips for a muscle weight loss.. cheers
So you gained 20 pounds of muscle in one season? Solution = stay of the roids, it will shrivel away.
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rk2000
Apr 24, 2010, 6:39 PM
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yeah i am full of shit.... ... or rather full of leg muscle...
i like the suggestions though... i think ill go with crutches rather than the wheel chair... better work out for the arms....
i am just climbing like shit and need to blame something..... thanks for your support guys.....
the before an after pics are on the way.....
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rubber_man
Apr 24, 2010, 9:13 PM
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wow you really took them seriously, talk about an unhealthy way to do it.
get your ass on a tredmill or go running, cardio will help with lean muslce
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altelis
Apr 24, 2010, 11:15 PM
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rubber_man wrote: wow you really took them seriously, talk about an unhealthy way to do it. get your ass on a tredmill or go running, cardio will help with lean muslce 
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rubber_man
Apr 25, 2010, 2:32 AM
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altelis wrote: rubber_man wrote: wow you really took them seriously, talk about an unhealthy way to do it. get your ass on a tredmill or go running, cardio will help with lean muslce I forgot that skiing isn't cardio, which is why he put on all that weight
I didn't say skiing isn't cardio, its a work out, but you put on mass muscle where as carido tends to be more lean muscle. Like difference between heavy weight lifting and high rep intensity weight lifting.
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altelis
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rubber_man wrote: altelis wrote: rubber_man wrote: wow you really took them seriously, talk about an unhealthy way to do it. get your ass on a tredmill or go running, cardio will help with lean muslce I forgot that skiing isn't cardio, which is why he put on all that weight I didn't say skiing isn't cardio, its a work out, but you put on mass muscle where as carido tends to be more lean muscle. Like difference between heavy weight lifting and high rep intensity weight lifting.
Until you recognize the contradiction in your thought process this is a waste of time...
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rhei
Apr 25, 2010, 2:55 AM
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So, you're 20 lbs. heavier, your legs are bigger, and you feel like you're climbing is suffering.
You can lose weight from your lower body by adding some serious day hiking to your exercise program. Carry a light pack (extra clothes and water) and focus on higher mileage at a sustained, moderately intense level of output. That, in combination with a managed diet, should give you measureable weight loss where you want it.
That will make you a lighter climber. You'll still need to work on your technique.
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hafilax
Apr 25, 2010, 3:41 AM
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Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire.
I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise?
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altelis
Apr 26, 2010, 12:20 AM
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hafilax wrote: Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire. I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise?
Yea, thats what gets me too. I *may* be willing to believe there was a 20# gain *overall* by the end of a ski season. But NOT from just skiing. I'm talking a SKI SEASON. Like you raced and were training like and eating like a racer. Sure, then you'll put on bulk. But as a seasoned ski bum, and an associate of many more, I find it VERY hard to believe that skiing alone would put you up 20#s....
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Apr 26, 2010, 12:35 AM
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altelis wrote: hafilax wrote: Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire. I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise? Yea, thats what gets me too. I *may* be willing to believe there was a 20# gain *overall* by the end of a ski season. But NOT from just skiing. I'm talking a SKI SEASON. Like you raced and were training like and eating like a racer. Sure, then you'll put on bulk. But as a seasoned ski bum, and an associate of many more, I find it VERY hard to believe that skiing alone would put you up 20#s....
I say it was the apres-skiing, rather than the skiing, that packed on 20 lbs.
The road to weight loss lies more at the refrigerator than at the gym...
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altelis
Apr 26, 2010, 12:41 AM
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onceahardman wrote: altelis wrote: hafilax wrote: Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire. I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise? Yea, thats what gets me too. I *may* be willing to believe there was a 20# gain *overall* by the end of a ski season. But NOT from just skiing. I'm talking a SKI SEASON. Like you raced and were training like and eating like a racer. Sure, then you'll put on bulk. But as a seasoned ski bum, and an associate of many more, I find it VERY hard to believe that skiing alone would put you up 20#s.... I say it was the apres-skiing, rather than the skiing, that packed on 20 lbs. The road to weight loss lies more at the refrigerator than at the gym...
Yep. I would definitely agree. This is why most ski bums I knew tended to actually lose weight.
I stayed about even, cause I bar tended at a nice restaurant. I figured out the win-win barter. I gave beer that I didn't pay for to the cooks who gave me food that they didn't pay for. Best form of commerce EVER
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jomagam
Apr 26, 2010, 7:47 PM
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So you got 3 basic advice:
1. Hours and hours of cardio using you legs
2. Stop using your legs
3. Maintaining an adequate protein and carbohydrate intake as suggested by Jay in http://www.rockclimbing.com/...rum.cgi?post=2319953
Good luck and let us know which works 
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Apr 26, 2010, 8:26 PM
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onceahardman wrote: altelis wrote: hafilax wrote: Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire. I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise? Yea, thats what gets me too. I *may* be willing to believe there was a 20# gain *overall* by the end of a ski season. But NOT from just skiing. I'm talking a SKI SEASON. Like you raced and were training like and eating like a racer. Sure, then you'll put on bulk. But as a seasoned ski bum, and an associate of many more, I find it VERY hard to believe that skiing alone would put you up 20#s.... I say it was the apres-skiing, rather than the skiing, that packed on 20 lbs. The road to weight loss lies more at the refrigerator than at the gym...
The road to weight loss doesn't exit at the refrigerator.
DMT
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Apr 26, 2010, 8:54 PM
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dingus wrote: onceahardman wrote: altelis wrote: hafilax wrote: Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire. I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise? Yea, thats what gets me too. I *may* be willing to believe there was a 20# gain *overall* by the end of a ski season. But NOT from just skiing. I'm talking a SKI SEASON. Like you raced and were training like and eating like a racer. Sure, then you'll put on bulk. But as a seasoned ski bum, and an associate of many more, I find it VERY hard to believe that skiing alone would put you up 20#s.... I say it was the apres-skiing, rather than the skiing, that packed on 20 lbs. The road to weight loss lies more at the refrigerator than at the gym... The road to weight loss doesn't exit at the refrigerator. DMT
Kate Moss would have us believe that the road to weight loss begins with your finger entering your mouth, but I digress.
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dingus wrote: onceahardman wrote: altelis wrote: hafilax wrote: Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire. I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise? Yea, thats what gets me too. I *may* be willing to believe there was a 20# gain *overall* by the end of a ski season. But NOT from just skiing. I'm talking a SKI SEASON. Like you raced and were training like and eating like a racer. Sure, then you'll put on bulk. But as a seasoned ski bum, and an associate of many more, I find it VERY hard to believe that skiing alone would put you up 20#s.... I say it was the apres-skiing, rather than the skiing, that packed on 20 lbs. The road to weight loss lies more at the refrigerator than at the gym... The road to weight loss doesn't exit at the refrigerator. DMT
The road to weight loss merges with the highway of nutrition at the intersection of diet and lifestyle.
Should I write a book?
Jay
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jt512 wrote: dingus wrote: onceahardman wrote: altelis wrote: hafilax wrote: Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire. I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise? Yea, thats what gets me too. I *may* be willing to believe there was a 20# gain *overall* by the end of a ski season. But NOT from just skiing. I'm talking a SKI SEASON. Like you raced and were training like and eating like a racer. Sure, then you'll put on bulk. But as a seasoned ski bum, and an associate of many more, I find it VERY hard to believe that skiing alone would put you up 20#s.... I say it was the apres-skiing, rather than the skiing, that packed on 20 lbs. The road to weight loss lies more at the refrigerator than at the gym... The road to weight loss doesn't exit at the refrigerator. DMT The road to weight loss merges with the highway of nutrition at the intersection of diet and lifestyle. Should I write a book? Jay
Yes but not like that!!!111
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dingus wrote: jt512 wrote: dingus wrote: onceahardman wrote: altelis wrote: hafilax wrote: Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire. I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise? Yea, thats what gets me too. I *may* be willing to believe there was a 20# gain *overall* by the end of a ski season. But NOT from just skiing. I'm talking a SKI SEASON. Like you raced and were training like and eating like a racer. Sure, then you'll put on bulk. But as a seasoned ski bum, and an associate of many more, I find it VERY hard to believe that skiing alone would put you up 20#s.... I say it was the apres-skiing, rather than the skiing, that packed on 20 lbs. The road to weight loss lies more at the refrigerator than at the gym... The road to weight loss doesn't exit at the refrigerator. DMT The road to weight loss merges with the highway of nutrition at the intersection of diet and lifestyle. Should I write a book? Jay Yes but not like that!!!111 DMT
Chapter 1: Exercise More
Chapter 2: Eat Less
Done.
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tomtom wrote: dingus wrote: jt512 wrote: dingus wrote: onceahardman wrote: altelis wrote: hafilax wrote: Just switch to a climbing training regimen. You'll get stronger with the extra mass and then benefit from it going away as your legs wither away to the twigs you desire. I too have a hard time believing that skiing has bulked up your legs that much unless you're a professional racer that has done some serious time doing weighted squats. Can legs really bulk up to be huge with only body weight exercise? Yea, thats what gets me too. I *may* be willing to believe there was a 20# gain *overall* by the end of a ski season. But NOT from just skiing. I'm talking a SKI SEASON. Like you raced and were training like and eating like a racer. Sure, then you'll put on bulk. But as a seasoned ski bum, and an associate of many more, I find it VERY hard to believe that skiing alone would put you up 20#s.... I say it was the apres-skiing, rather than the skiing, that packed on 20 lbs. The road to weight loss lies more at the refrigerator than at the gym... The road to weight loss doesn't exit at the refrigerator. DMT The road to weight loss merges with the highway of nutrition at the intersection of diet and lifestyle. Should I write a book? Jay Yes but not like that!!!111 DMT Chapter 1: Exercise More Chapter 2: Eat Less Done.
tomtom your name is redundant.
DMT
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Stop your steroid regimen, that should do it.
People don't naturally gain and lose that much muscle that quickly, and riding around in a wheel chair might work for a while, but once you stop riding around in it, the muscle will come right back (and you'll be fatter than you were before).
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