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darien.liew
Jun 21, 2010, 1:41 PM
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Hi, I am still a beginner to rock climbing, I was wondering the difference between liquid chalk and normal chalk put aside the obvious differences, my question is does liquid chalk harm the skin or cause any side effects against the skin? Anyone is more than welcome to reply. Please reply as soon as possible.
Thank You
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angry
Jun 21, 2010, 1:55 PM
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It won't cause any more side effects than rubbing alcohol on the skin.
Personally, I wouldn't use it for climbing, it's just paste and you still have to chalk up on route anyway.
I do have a bottle of rubbing alcohol with chalk mixed into it that I pour over my hands and let dry. I use it often to start my day of climbing. It cuts out any body oil and lotions and really gets the chalk in deep. You still need to use chalk on route but I like starting with clean chalky hands.
Honestly, scrubbing with plain rubbing alcohol would just as easily get the job done I'm sure. It's the cleaning I like, there's plenty of chalk in my bag.
FWIW, use discretion on dark rock and places that are so overhung that they don't get rain. Chalk is nowhere near as temporary as most people think it is.
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darien.liew
Jun 21, 2010, 2:08 PM
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How long does liquid chalk really last?
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angry
Jun 21, 2010, 2:13 PM
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3-6 moves, depending on the rock and humidity.
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kriso9tails
Jun 21, 2010, 4:36 PM
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The one place where liquid chalk has an advantage, in my opinion, is if you have a training wall available to you in a smaller space (woodie in a basement or something along those lines).
It dramatically cuts back on the amount of chalk in the air, but your holds don't get greased up so quickly.
Outside of that specific situation, +1 on what angry wrote.
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bustloose
Jun 23, 2010, 6:37 PM
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angry wrote: It won't cause any more side effects than rubbing alcohol on the skin. Personally, i don't use liquid chalk, you still have to chalk up on route anyway. I do however, use liquid chalk, You still need to use chalk on route
now that is good advice right there.
good liquid chalk is a great base and you'll find that you will generally use less chalk from your bag while climbing.
(This post was edited by bustloose on Jun 23, 2010, 6:39 PM)
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kriso9tails
Jun 23, 2010, 11:57 PM
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First you misquote him, and then you repeat something he's essentially already said?
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Jun 24, 2010, 12:04 AM
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angry wrote: It won't cause any more side effects than rubbing alcohol on the skin. Personally, I wouldn't use it for climbing, it's just paste and you still have to chalk up on route anyway. I do have a bottle of rubbing alcohol with chalk mixed into it that I pour over my hands and let dry. I use it often to start my day of climbing. It cuts out any body oil and lotions and really gets the chalk in deep. You still need to use chalk on route but I like starting with clean chalky hands. Honestly, scrubbing with plain rubbing alcohol would just as easily get the job done I'm sure. It's the cleaning I like, there's plenty of chalk in my bag. FWIW, use discretion on dark rock and places that are so overhung that they don't get rain. Chalk is nowhere near as temporary as most people think it is.
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angry
Jun 24, 2010, 12:05 AM
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bustloose wrote: angry wrote: It won't cause any more side effects than rubbing alcohol on the skin. Personally, i don't use liquid chalk, you still have to chalk up on route anyway. I do however, use liquid chalk, You still need to use chalk on route now that is good advice right there. good liquid chalk is a great base and you'll find that you will generally use less chalk from your bag while climbing.
Why are you cupping my balls?
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bustloose
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kriso9tails wrote: First you misquote him, and then you repeat something he's essentially already said?
how did i misquote him??? he says he doesn't use liquid chalk, then says he uses chalk mixed with rubbing alcohol... which is, stay with me here... liquid... chalk...
if you've found pasty stuff, then keep looking. Flashed has a great product.
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redlude97
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bustloose wrote: kriso9tails wrote: First you misquote him, and then you repeat something he's essentially already said? how did i misquote him??? he says he doesn't use liquid chalk, then says he uses chalk mixed with rubbing alcohol... which is, stay with me here... liquid... chalk... if you've found pasty stuff, then keep looking. Flashed has a great product.
(This post was edited by redlude97 on Jun 24, 2010, 4:44 AM)
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kriso9tails
Jun 24, 2010, 4:57 AM
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bustloose wrote: how did i misquote him???
He typed out some words, and then you changed those words and, stay with me here... attributed... them... to... him.... as... a... direct... quote.
bustloose wrote: if you've found pasty stuff, please just accept that I love the smell of wet monkey fur.
Okay, now you're just being weird.
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bustloose
Jun 24, 2010, 3:42 PM
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you people need help. like serious fucking help.
i changed the words to paraphrase them so that you would see that he was saying exactly the same thing. rather obviously. and with an attempt at humour.
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swoopee
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You're wasting your time trying to explain. Just sit back and enjoy.
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kachoong
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Never seen much benefit from using liquid chalk... it helps a little, but I've found that cleaning my hands with Purell prior to climbing is just as good. It helps get off the sunscreen, dog drool, avacado and banana residue, allowing the chalk to adhere for longer.
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redlude97
Jun 24, 2010, 5:08 PM
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kachoong wrote: Never seen much benefit from using liquid chalk... it helps a little, but I've found that cleaning my hands with Purell prior to climbing is just as good. It helps get off the sunscreen, dog drool, avacado and banana residue, allowing the chalk to adhere for longer.
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kachoong
Jun 24, 2010, 5:16 PM
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redlude97 wrote: kachoong wrote: Never seen much benefit from using liquid chalk... it helps a little, but I've found that cleaning my hands with Purell prior to climbing is just as good. It helps get off the sunscreen, dog drool, avacado and banana residue, allowing the chalk to adhere for longer. Thats because it is mostly rubbing alcohol, the same stuff that is in liquid chalk
It's also a lot cheaper.
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redlude97
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kachoong wrote: redlude97 wrote: kachoong wrote: Never seen much benefit from using liquid chalk... it helps a little, but I've found that cleaning my hands with Purell prior to climbing is just as good. It helps get off the sunscreen, dog drool, avacado and banana residue, allowing the chalk to adhere for longer. Thats because it is mostly rubbing alcohol, the same stuff that is in liquid chalk It's also a lot cheaper.
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kriso9tails
Jun 24, 2010, 5:51 PM
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bustloose wrote: i changed the words to paraphrase them so that you would see that he was saying exactly the same thing.
Yes, I'm aware, but the joke doesn't work because you had to chop and change his words too much in order to erase the fact that he wasn't actually talking about the exact same thing.
In reply to: ...and with an attempt at humour.
You can still try for the redpoint.
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bustloose
Jun 24, 2010, 10:22 PM
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kriso9tails wrote: bustloose wrote: i changed the words to paraphrase them so that you would see that he was saying exactly the same thing. Yes, I'm aware, but the joke doesn't work because you had to chop and change his words too much in order to erase the fact that he wasn't actually talking about the exact same thing. In reply to: ...and with an attempt at humour. You can still try for the redpoint.
but that's the point, he *is* talking about the *exact* same thing, he just doesn't like the ratio of chalk to alcohol of the brands he's seen...
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kriso9tails
Jun 24, 2010, 11:02 PM
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His meaning was clear. You simply didn't understand the post. There's no debate here; it's strictly a matter of fact that he was talking about two similar and related things, but with some degree of distinction between them. You may not agree that this degree of distinction is significant, but that doesn't change the meaning of his post in any way.
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bustloose
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"didn't understand the post" as if. a fucking retarded chihuahua could have understood the post.
his meaning was not clear, he was completely contradictory and quite possibly doesn't understand what liquid chalk is.
it's no different than saying 'i don't drink water' then saying that you quite like using a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen to quench your thirst when it's hot out.
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lemon_boy
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angry, and others, what do you use for a container when you make your own liquid chalk. i have been using a small white nalgen bottle, but the alcohol seems to evaporate through the cap and the mix turns to a dry-ish paste.
i like liquid chalk. i have pretty greasy hands and applying it a few times throughout the day really seems to help. also, if i am bouldering at the gym, by midway through my visit, my hands are staying pretty dry.
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