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gerbil
Nov 12, 2010, 5:51 PM
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seriously, i will never buy another piece of gear from metolius again. there cams are cheapos and wear out way to fast, and there customer service is awful. black diamond here I come!
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spikeddem
Nov 12, 2010, 6:03 PM
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Perhaps you could describe your experience to us.
I have $5.00 saying that you fail to reasonably back-up your claim.
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Dip
Nov 12, 2010, 6:08 PM
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In reply to: I have $5.00 saying that you fail to reasonably back-up your claim
+1. In fact, i can provide a personal experience where the customer service at Metolius went above and beyond expectations.
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xtrmecat
Nov 12, 2010, 6:21 PM
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Well there you have it gerbil, put up or shut up, or man up or gerbil up, or get out the fire resistant suit and hang on to your ass with both hands and tell us what your beef is with the great and holy Met.
Burly Bob
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marc801
Nov 12, 2010, 6:36 PM
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gerbil wrote: seriously, i will never buy another piece of gear from metolius again. there cams are cheapos and wear out way to fast, and there customer service is awful. black diamond here I come!
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esander4
Nov 12, 2010, 7:58 PM
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Metolius gear has always been in my experience pretty above par in their trad gear. The only thing I don't like about Metolius is the Kevlar trigger wires on their master cams, and how when you twist the trigger it can retract the lobes. But other than that, Metolius has always been great, probably just as good as BD. What's the deal?
Oh, i forgot to mention one other product Metolius SUCKS at making. Chalk. Metolius super chalk is the worst chalk I've ever come across
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Dip
Nov 12, 2010, 8:27 PM
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In reply to: Metolius super chalk is the worst chalk I've ever come across
+1 again. That shit is whicked. I'm not a big fan of their holds either, but i still stand behind their customer service and trad gear.
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rightarmbad
Nov 12, 2010, 9:33 PM
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Aw, c'mon, Superchalk rocks
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socalclimber
Nov 12, 2010, 9:43 PM
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gerbil wrote: seriously, i will never buy another piece of gear from metolius again. there cams are cheapos and wear out way to fast, and there customer service is awful. black diamond here I come!
Well let's see. In the past 20+ years of climbing I've owned just about everything and anything you can imagine at one time or another. All of my metolius cams are still on my rack and have never needed a new trigger wire. Every single BD cam I own have had at least 3 trigger wire replacements. I've only replaced a few on my rigid friends.
I'm guessing you don't know what you're talking about. My guess is you called metolius and acted like an ass and they said sorry, bye bye.
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acorneau
Nov 12, 2010, 10:29 PM
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I didn't know gerbils lived under bridges?!?
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TarHeelEMT
Nov 12, 2010, 11:19 PM
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I've been pleased with their customer service. Their haul bags are awesome, too.
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pendereki
Nov 13, 2010, 12:05 AM
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I have a lot of Metolius stuff and I love all of it. They even made a custom, left handed gear sling for me--no extra charge. That is great customer service!
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potreroed
Nov 13, 2010, 1:47 AM
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Metolius rules.
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healyje
Nov 13, 2010, 2:57 AM
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gerbil wrote: seriously, i will never buy another piece of gear from metolius again. there cams are cheapos and wear out way to fast, and there customer service is awful. black diamond here I come!
Come on, admit it, you're just upset by the fact all their customer service reps pull down way harder than you ever will.
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bill413
Nov 15, 2010, 2:29 AM
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healyje wrote: gerbil wrote: seriously, i will never buy another piece of gear from metolius again. there cams are cheapos and wear out way to fast, and there customer service is awful. black diamond here I come! Come on, admit it, you're just upset by the fact all their customer service reps pull down way harder than you ever will.
This ^^^
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bill413
Nov 15, 2010, 2:32 AM
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I've had a Metolius cam rip. I'm pretty sure it was user error. This was ca. 20 years ago.
That cam is still on my rack. One of my favorite pieces is a M. #0 TCU of the same vintage.
Of course, other people may well have different experiences.
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Colinhoglund
Nov 15, 2010, 2:50 AM
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I call shenanigans!!!!!!!!!
My mastercams and tcus are awesome! Case and point, I'm still alive thanks to them.
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texplorer
Nov 15, 2010, 8:30 AM
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I believe this is what you call a troll
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csproul
Nov 15, 2010, 4:56 PM
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I love my TCU's and Mastercams, and I've been pretty happy with Metolius. But to be fair, I have two Mastercams that are less than 8 months old and on both of them the Kevlar trigger cord has already started to fray. Thus far, it doesn't seem as durable as wires.
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scotty1974
Nov 15, 2010, 5:33 PM
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+1...I think this is a Chewlies gum rep.
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hafilax
Nov 15, 2010, 6:49 PM
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texplorer wrote: I believe this is what you call a troll
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jeepnphreak
Nov 16, 2010, 11:12 PM
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Oh oh Ill join in.
Ok
Metolius cams I own.
00-4 TCU
5,6 power cam
4,5,6 master cam
so far all of it as performed very well. Caught every fall with out pulling out and still operate nice and smooth. Had the triggers and slings replaced on the two power cams last year.
my experience had been good. Customer service was excellent. I still don't know about the Kevlar trigger wires on the masters, but so far after two seasons they are going just fine.
In conclusion gerbil is a troll
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ianwatson
Nov 17, 2010, 3:35 PM
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I have never taken a fall on my mastercams just a few short 3 footish takes and i have burned out and had to weight a few but i now know im extreamly lucky to be alive (due to there gear sucks and all).
do this^^^ folks and yer gonna die.
(This post was edited by ianwatson on Nov 17, 2010, 3:36 PM)
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esander4
Nov 17, 2010, 4:45 PM
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Not one explanation yet of why you think Met sucks? Come on man. By not responding you're making yourself look really bad. What cam did Metolius ram up your ass that you hate them so much?
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acorneau
Nov 17, 2010, 6:27 PM
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The only story I could think of that would possibly give Gerbil a pass would be:
He had a Metolius cam with a damaged trigger wire or something. He sent it in to Metolius to be repaired and they found it to be more broken then Gerbil thought, so they confiscated it.
Gerbil didn't get his cam back so he came to bitch and moan about it here.
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