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toofreakinsexy1
Sep 10, 2011, 5:18 PM
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So the new Rock and Ice brings up some good points and sides of arguements concerning fixed protection at overhung cliffs at places like Rumney and the RRG. Last weekend I was at Rumney on Barracuda and the sun bleached dogbones aren't super comforting. So I was wondering, what if every time I went out to these cliffs I replaced the worst looking quickdraw out there with a Perma-draw as sort of a payment back into these amazing places I get to climb that people before me had worked hard to clean and bolt. I realize there's a lot of climbing politics that say the fixed protection shouldn't be there. But it is. So why not make it safer for everyone? Thoughts?
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tH1e-swiN1e
Sep 10, 2011, 6:15 PM
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If you cant clean it, dont climb it.
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caughtinside
Sep 10, 2011, 7:13 PM
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tH1e-swiN1e wrote: If you cant clean it, dont climb it.
Did you read the dude's post? No one cleans it... and lots of people climb it.
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Gmburns2000
Sep 10, 2011, 8:52 PM
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tH1e-swiN1e wrote: If you cant clean it, dont climb it.
huh?
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Gmburns2000
Sep 10, 2011, 8:55 PM
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Gmburns2000 wrote: tH1e-swiN1e wrote: If you cant clean it, dont climb it. huh?
since editing is weak and I forgot to answer the OP...sure, why not? Sounds like a good thing to do to me. I'd probably talk with the locals to get an idea of what kind of draws they want up there first, but someone has to replace the gear at some point anyway.
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jakedatc
Sep 10, 2011, 9:12 PM
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toofreakinsexy1 wrote: So the new Rock and Ice brings up some good points and sides of arguements concerning fixed protection at overhung cliffs at places like Rumney and the RRG. Last weekend I was at Rumney on Barracuda and the sun bleached dogbones aren't super comforting. So I was wondering, what if every time I went out to these cliffs I replaced the worst looking quickdraw out there with a Perma-draw as sort of a payment back into these amazing places I get to climb that people before me had worked hard to clean and bolt. I realize there's a lot of climbing politics that say the fixed protection shouldn't be there. But it is. So why not make it safer for everyone? Thoughts?
They are putting perma draws on a few routes at Waimea. There is a thread about it on Mtn project and i think NEclimbs. Can PM James Otey over there about donating though.
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jammer
Sep 21, 2011, 5:20 AM
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You can email the RCA's new group called rumney-upkeep, and ask them if they don't mind you doing this. Their email is rumney-upkeep@googlegroups.com
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jt512
Sep 21, 2011, 5:50 AM
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tH1e-swiN1e wrote: If you cant clean it, dont climb it.
If you can't think, don't post.
Jay
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shockabuku
Sep 21, 2011, 1:00 PM
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Replacing old stuff sounds reasonable to me. Seems a different issue than putting up fixed gear where there was none. For ~$16 you can put up a stainless cable draw that should last until
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superchuffer
Sep 23, 2011, 10:11 PM
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tH1e-swiN1e wrote: If you cant clean it, dont climb it.
exactly my point with 'trad' chain anchors, horrible eyesores that they are
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essay
Sep 23, 2011, 11:02 PM
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superchuffer wrote: tH1e-swiN1e wrote: If you cant clean it, dont climb it. exactly my point with 'trad' chain anchors, horrible eyesores that they are
That is exactly what I think of punting chuffers, eyesores! You and those trad chain anchors have more in common than you think.
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