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viavelo
Mar 10, 2012, 5:15 PM
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So I want to start leading and I'm talking with a coworker about buying his gear. It's old, but looks to be in good shape. Here is a list of that he is selling for $550:
Headwall Climbing Harness with attachment loops
REI Climing Harness
Black Diamond ATC Belay Device (never used)
Belay Device with Spring
Hang Dog Pouch and Bison Resin Ball
Misty Mountain Big Wall Gear Harness (over both shoulders)
Misty Mountain Gear Harness (padded bandolier style)
Chouinard Camalot #2 (spring loaded)
9 DMM Wired Wall Nuts / Wedges (set: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9)
11 Chouinard Wired Stoppers (set: 4 - #1, 3 - #2, 2 - #3, #4, #5)
7 Lowe (Camp) Tricam Set (set: #.5, #1, #2, #2.5, #3, #3.5, #4)
Chouinard Hexcentric (wired) ?size ?medium
2 SMC Camlock: big and medium
3 Locking 'biners, various types
21 full size 'biners
15 Lowe Fader mini-biner (1700 Kg rated)
SMC Nut Pick
4 Repalcement Anchor Hangers
Misc slings and runners
Rope Bag
What do yins think about this deal?
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bearbreeder
Mar 10, 2012, 6:11 PM
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depending on where you climb, you may want a lot more cams if yr spending half a g ...
i personally would want a rack of camalots or metollius for that price ... passive gear is cheap anyways
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viavelo
Mar 10, 2012, 6:56 PM
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i think i am deciding against this purchase. a lot of this stuff i dont need (harnesses, belay devices,etc) becasue i am alreadying doing some sport leading and TRing. i want to start leading some easy stuff at seneca. i followed my friend as he led gunsight to south direct and he did it with all passive gear. i may end up just buying a couple sets of stoppers and a set of hexes. maybe a few tricams and start there. the age of this stuff also scares me as ive read some things about the lifespan of nylon.
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dindolino32
Mar 10, 2012, 7:21 PM
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I have heard bad things about the smc camlocks. I would advise against the buy. For 550 you can get a most of a rack of new cams and there is no question of integrity or damage. You know the history because it is new
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sp115
Mar 10, 2012, 8:41 PM
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viavelo wrote: i think i am deciding against this purchase. a lot of this stuff i dont need (harnesses, belay devices,etc) becasue i am alreadying doing some sport leading and TRing. i want to start leading some easy stuff at seneca. i followed my friend as he led gunsight to south direct and he did it with all passive gear. i may end up just buying a couple sets of stoppers and a set of hexes. maybe a few tricams and start there. the age of this stuff also scares me as ive read some things about the lifespan of nylon.
Stuff you don't need, slings you might never trust, and some gear that you most likely won't like. Pass on all of it.
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johnwesely
Mar 10, 2012, 9:46 PM
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viavelo wrote: So I want to start leading and I'm talking with a coworker about buying his gear. It's old, but looks to be in good shape. Here is a list of that he is selling for $550: Headwall Climbing Harness with attachment loops REI Climing Harness Black Diamond ATC Belay Device (never used) Belay Device with Spring Hang Dog Pouch and Bison Resin Ball Misty Mountain Big Wall Gear Harness (over both shoulders) Misty Mountain Gear Harness (padded bandolier style) Chouinard Camalot #2 (spring loaded) 9 DMM Wired Wall Nuts / Wedges (set: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9) 11 Chouinard Wired Stoppers (set: 4 - #1, 3 - #2, 2 - #3, #4, #5) 7 Lowe (Camp) Tricam Set (set: #.5, #1, #2, #2.5, #3, #3.5, #4) Chouinard Hexcentric (wired) ?size ?medium 2 SMC Camlock: big and medium 3 Locking 'biners, various types 21 full size 'biners 15 Lowe Fader mini-biner (1700 Kg rated) SMC Nut Pick 4 Repalcement Anchor Hangers Misc slings and runners Rope Bag What do yins think about this deal?
I would price that out to be worth 150 dollars max.
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trisgo
Mar 12, 2012, 4:06 AM
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Money wise, I have no idea, but as far as buying used gear goes, proceed with caution. Any type of soft gear like slings, cords, and ropes, I'd pass on. I'll buy used hard gear off people, but I use it with care. I've bought used hexes, but have always cut the cord off and re-slung. Anything that has wire like nuts and cams, I really take a good look for any type of frays or kinks; immediately tossed if so. People say binners can get microcracks if dropped that aren't visible, but obviously inspect it for everything else. I never fully trust anything I haven't bought new (including binners), so what I do is mark it with a piece of yellow tape so I know which gear is what. I never use the used gear solely by itself. I'll use a nut for example to build a multipoint anchor or as a backup for another marginal piece. Same thing with binners; I'll use one of the used ones if I need opposing binners or two of the used binners to rap off. A lot of people will tar and feather you for buying used gear, but I think as long as you trash the soft gear (with the exception of shoulder gear slings) and use the hard gear with caution, you'd be fine. Even the tricams you could re-sling with webbing. Like the other person said, $600 can get you a set of cams, but maybe he would sell individual pieces.
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gunkiemike
Mar 14, 2012, 11:42 PM
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johnwesely wrote: viavelo wrote: So I want to start leading and I'm talking with a coworker about buying his gear. It's old, but looks to be in good shape. Here is a list of that he is selling for $550: Headwall Climbing Harness with attachment loops REI Climing Harness Black Diamond ATC Belay Device (never used) Belay Device with Spring Hang Dog Pouch and Bison Resin Ball Misty Mountain Big Wall Gear Harness (over both shoulders) Misty Mountain Gear Harness (padded bandolier style) Chouinard Camalot #2 (spring loaded) 9 DMM Wired Wall Nuts / Wedges (set: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9) 11 Chouinard Wired Stoppers (set: 4 - #1, 3 - #2, 2 - #3, #4, #5) 7 Lowe (Camp) Tricam Set (set: #.5, #1, #2, #2.5, #3, #3.5, #4) Chouinard Hexcentric (wired) ?size ?medium 2 SMC Camlock: big and medium 3 Locking 'biners, various types 21 full size 'biners 15 Lowe Fader mini-biner (1700 Kg rated) SMC Nut Pick 4 Repalcement Anchor Hangers Misc slings and runners Rope Bag What do yins think about this deal? I would price that out to be worth 150 dollars max.
If you take out the duplicate things the OP won't need (big wall gear sling, second harness and belay device) and take out the nearly useless gear (big Tricams, Camlocks, Chouinard-era Camalot etc), I'd say it's worth $80 or so.
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JAB
Mar 27, 2012, 7:55 PM
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These are the only things I would even consider:
Black Diamond ATC Belay Device (never used)
Misty Mountain Gear Harness (padded bandolier style)
9 DMM Wired Wall Nuts / Wedges (set: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9)
3 Locking 'biners, various types
21 full size 'biners
SMC Nut Pick
Rope Bag
If these are old but good quality I would consider paying about $100 for it.
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viavelo
Mar 27, 2012, 8:10 PM
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ive decided against this purchase. the dude doesnt want to split up the gear at all and is firm on the price. sooo...i guess ill have to get some new stuff over time.
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bearbreeder
Mar 27, 2012, 8:50 PM
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smart choice ... if yr spending 500+ smackaroos youll want some cams with that ...
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donald949
Apr 6, 2012, 5:37 PM
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This is exactly what came to mind when I first read the OP's post. It doesn't have all the biners that the OP will need, but throw in two fist fulls of Omega's Dirt Bag Draws. And he'll have all the gear needed to lead. For just a touch more than what his freind wants for *really old* used (abused?) gear. That doesn't even have cams, as noted.
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