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tradpuppy
Jan 21, 2003, 2:38 PM
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Yes, but not in a greenspace in an urban area, where an act such as that could jeapordize access (Boatrock). At Sandrock Al., a little innocent trimming turned into a full scale deforestation of the tops of all the boulders. Now, you can routinely walk into the climbing area and see smoldering firepits with green leafy branches piled on them with fires that never did catch. People see you doing the innocent trimming and the next thing you know, clear cut! That's the problem, not one little branch.
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beyond_gravity
Jan 21, 2003, 3:12 PM
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nobody is going to cut the friggin tree down if you cut off a single branch. People arn't that dumb
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tradpuppy
Jan 21, 2003, 3:17 PM
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Yes they are.
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ridgerunner
Jan 21, 2003, 5:31 PM
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Sandrock ethics Climbing:
Place all backpacks etc. at starts to trad climbs. If you have to relieve yourself, do it in a chasm (smells good) or under sit start boulder problems. Be sure to leave Alabama popcorn so people will know. Firewood ethics: Use only green wood, never use down wood.
Personal relationship ethics: If you steal someones woman be sure to take a picture of the two of you getting it on, hang picture in outhouse. If you find picture of your ex in said outhouse, be sure to turn outhouse over!
http://server502.hypermart.net/seclimbers/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=3e2d7f124d48ffff;act=ST;f=4;t=253
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karma274
Jan 21, 2003, 6:58 PM
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(heavy sarcasm)Yes, the trimming of a very small branch will lead to full scale deforestation of the tops of boulders, using green wood for fires, and the calling in of agent orange strikes at all local boulder fields.(heavy sarcasm)
Sorry dude, but I doubt the trimming of one small branch led to all of the problems you mentioned. You would have to be dealing with lots of idiot locals for that to happen.
Of course it is Alabama...
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tradpuppy
Jan 21, 2003, 7:21 PM
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Exactly.
But newer climbers see the example set by others. Unless you explain that it's not necessarily what you do EVERY day, some people take it to extremes in many cases. And that's what has happened there, both with the vegetation and the overbolting. Sort of like the hyperbole in this thread.
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karma274
Jan 21, 2003, 7:24 PM
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$#!&ty.
I'm suprised that that many people had no problem doing what you mentioned. Normally a few idiots get barked at by the more reasonable majority.
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flamer
Jan 21, 2003, 8:04 PM
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Pansy ass,no ethic's having,bouldering fag.
I have seen to many tree's cut down around boulders lately, A lot of them in RMNP! I'm sick of this $#!&! Finding Cigerette butts, and all kinds of trash all over the place. People ripping out bush's and tree's around boulder's because "It's such a killer problem dude, it's worth it!" Bull$#!&!
Repeat after me..."We don't have to climb every piece of rock"!!!
You better hope I'm not around to see this kind of BS, I'm not some tiny little tree hugg'n hippy, and I would love to shove that saw blade straight up your ass!
josh
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boulderingmadman
Jan 21, 2003, 8:07 PM
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another boldering flamer...look at your name yo!! and youre gonna call us fags...you even call yourself a flamer...
damn, the irony
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flamer
Jan 21, 2003, 8:18 PM
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If you only knew the reason behind the flamer name( and some RC people do).
BUT don't think I wouldn't bend your pansy ass over a boulder-if I saw you doing the the kind of BS being discussed here!
josh
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boulderingmadman
Jan 21, 2003, 8:20 PM
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bring it troll...anytime you wanna come to the bishop area, just give me a PM...i dont talk $#!& and hide behind a name to avoid backing up my words...
talking about "bending me over a boulder"...whose the fag?
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flamer
Jan 21, 2003, 8:29 PM
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I'm sorry, But Hide behind A name? Seems to me I've signed every post I've ever put on this site with my real name. josh.
As far as being a fag goes- I'm not- but that wouldn't keep me from shoving it up your ass to prove a point. After all I would just be sticking it in a P**sy!
josh
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boulderingmadman
Jan 21, 2003, 8:36 PM
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chris morrison. assistant general manager. holiday inn, mammoth lakes, ca.
(760)924-1234 whenever you think youre man enough...
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boulderingmadman
Jan 21, 2003, 8:39 PM
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reply to the PM...im curious...before this gets too far out of hand...
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lox
Jan 21, 2003, 8:41 PM
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DID YOU JUST GET A CALL FROM IVANA HUMPALOT ?!?
IT WASN'T ME I SWEAR !!!!1111
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boulderingmadman
Jan 21, 2003, 8:44 PM
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im not dumb...it aint my personal phone number...just to make reservations
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flamer
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WOW! This is like the 8th grade! I don't need to meet you at the bike racks after school! I have no desire to fight you over some lame internet crap! HOWEVER, as I stated before IF I were to come across someone doing this kind of crap THEN we would have a PROBLEM. It amazes me that people who would bring their place of business into something like this can acheive the coveted title of asst. manager.
josh
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boulderingmadman
Jan 21, 2003, 9:09 PM
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its all in good fun...you crossed the line by making threats to my physical well-being.
i got no problem with flaming for the fun of flaming. when you make physical threats, you got two choices...bring it, or stop it.
as for the place of business...anyone who wants to make a reservation, now knows the phone number...
this is, however, typical of most flamers...when the money's on the line...back off...
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mreardon
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Flamer and Madman sitting in a tree - k-i-s-s-i-n-g - First comes love, then comes marriage....
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adm4now
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I say you sould just chop it. It's just one tree. Your not going to destroy the whole universe. Well...... unless it influences people to do the same and it all gos and dies.
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tradpuppy
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Oh, you ha-a-airy leettle men. Alotta Fagina here. I veesh you would not fight over such a small leetle thing. I hurts Allotta to see ha-a-airy leetle men break such hot vind before her.
Now, you boooldering madly man. Do you have the hot tubs at your Hooliday EEN?
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wildtrail
Jan 22, 2003, 3:41 AM
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Don't remove it. The route isn't that important that a tree be damaged or destroyed. It's bad enough we harm the rock. I say leave it. Climb around it. For the tree.
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tanner
Jan 22, 2003, 3:44 AM
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Cut it off. Its not bad for the tree at all. only the braches that are exposted to lots of sunlight help the tree. Don't just cut half of it cut the entire branch off. It will look better.
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bekkybadass
Jan 22, 2003, 3:49 AM
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Plant a tree...then cut the branch...I have been to a few of the Access Funds Adopt a Crags and if you keep in mind that you want others (climbers) to use this area...keep them on the trail and keep those trails nice...goes for the base of the crags too. Other climbers will be on that route...keep in mind to keep it as natural as possible. It is our responsibility as climbers to keep our areas cleaned up...dont litter, have respect, and enjoy!!!
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theperfectdrugsk
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tie it, and if that doesnt work, duct tape it, and if that doesnt work, then cut it...its not like youre cutting down the whole tree...its a branch
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