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stevematthys
Jan 20, 2003, 12:57 AM
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get bd and keep the mid size cams, sell rest.
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winkwinklambonini
Jan 20, 2003, 12:59 AM
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No, buy more
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woodse
Jan 20, 2003, 1:03 AM
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I'll take them off your hands for a dollar a piece.......!!!
My advice would be to keep what you got and let the lady know you want some BD cams.....if she gets huffy puffy cause she's already bought you all that other gear let her know you need them for your safety.....gets em every time!!!
woodsE
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milesdesbrie
Jan 20, 2003, 1:04 AM
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Take up aid climbing, that'll fix it!
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no_limit
Jan 20, 2003, 1:06 AM
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DON'T SELL THEM
Give them to me
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rogueclimber
Jan 20, 2003, 1:10 AM
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Only 17?? you'll be needing to keep'em all! If you love climbing then trust me!
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bandycoot
Jan 20, 2003, 1:31 AM
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Well, black diamond has sacrificed holding power for expansion range (metolius has done the opposite with their "fat cams"). You should fell less safe with BD under you. A cam is a cam. If you have trouble placing gear using a mixed set then yes, you should change. Otherwise, be patient and wait it out. You'll probably be able to get about 1 Camalot for about 3 of you current cams if you're lucky. Not a lot of people want to buy used gear. That means that if you get 2 camalots, you're down to 13 cams.. If you're selling cams, sell the big stuff and keep one set. If you are patient, you'll have a set of BD's eventually, and lots of cams to supplement if you go somewhere that you need a double set! And for the love of god and all that is holy, explain that you don't want mismatched cams anymore to those supplying them to you!!!
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rprp
Jan 20, 2003, 3:43 AM
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If your complaint is that it is harder to know what piece you want to grab, then you could have new slings sewn on to color coordinate the mixed set. I did that and it works great. But some partners whine about the unexpected colors.
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wonderbread
Jan 20, 2003, 4:00 AM
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Dude-sell all your cams and get a crash pad, velcro shoes, and Wonderbreads latest edition of "Dude, That Was So Heinous-A Guide to Bouldering Lingo an' Shiz." I will trade you this book for any five cams and then you too can learn when and how to say "Sick bro," "Send it yo," "Grab the gaston, scum your toe, and then just bizzyump to the uber jug," and of course "I've never done it, but I can give you the beta." Act now and the exciting world of sit-starts, power spots, and tick-marks can be yours for any five cams!!!
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bonesz
Jan 20, 2003, 4:05 AM
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BUY MORE GEAR...to hell with what the wife says ! (no disrespect intended) Your life, your placement. If your feel safer on BD cams, you should persue that, and don't fool yourself into thinking that you need to have a whole double set right away, always back up you placements, I usually do with passive pro where allowed. My favs are aliens and camalots. My wife has nothing to say when it comes to MY LIFE. How many pairs of shoes does she own ?
[ This Message was edited by: bonesz on 2003-01-19 20:06 ]
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flash
Jan 22, 2003, 12:14 AM
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Keep them ALL - seriously!
Buy BD complete set. If you cannot get it all, then consider it an investement FOR LIFE.
Above is probably the best way to go (for a starter kit) however, you might actually consider:
TINY AND SMALL:
ZEROS (first 2 sizes)
ALIENS (first 4 sizes)
BIG AND BIGGER:
BD
BIG BROS
That should cover your spectrum, because after all, what matters the most is: learn to place gear on yourself before attempting to place it on rock. You got to get comfortable with this, and practice will have you place the "right stuff" each time.
Enjoy FREE CAMS though.
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yosemite
Jan 22, 2003, 12:33 AM
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Sober up Dude!!!
Your wife is buying YOU cams and YOU gotta problem? (This has got to be a troll.) Whacha thinkin' Boy? Just shut up and enjoy. Quit while you're way ahead.
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mreardon
Jan 22, 2003, 1:46 AM
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BD all the way! But keep the cams you got. You can use those when you hit Indian Creek and need a billion pieces the exact same size to do any of the cracks.
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mreardon
Jan 22, 2003, 1:46 AM
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p.s. Can I borrow your wife? Mine won't let me buy any more cams
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tradklime
Jan 22, 2003, 5:32 PM
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Cam preference is apparently very personal. I'd say don't sell them to buy camalots. Now if we were talking aliens it's a whole different story.
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beyond_gravity
Jan 22, 2003, 6:34 PM
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If you choose to sell some, PM me.
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markd
Jan 22, 2003, 6:44 PM
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bolt upright,
Trust those Rock Empire cams they'll hold if placed right. The two biggest falls I've ever seen were held by Rock Empire.
I'd also keep the cams and slowly buy the BD.
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holmeslovesguinness
Jan 22, 2003, 6:54 PM
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*Definitely* keep all the cams. Even if you sold the 'off-brand' cams for close to their retail value, BD's cost almost twice as much, so you'd end up with half as many cams...
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beyond_gravity
Jan 22, 2003, 7:00 PM
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Or you could just retro bolt the crack
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dstein
Jan 26, 2003, 10:11 PM
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Keep the cams, get rid of the wife.
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orangekyak
Jan 26, 2003, 10:27 PM
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trad is a head game. if you don't trust a piece of gear, don't use it, and don't weigh yourself down by carrying it. i'm with those who say that it's all about learning to place better. But in the end if you want BD, get BD if it calms your head.
and if you decide to sell those rock empires, let me know.
o.k.
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punk
Jan 26, 2003, 11:59 PM
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Got to get me one of these wives….
Anyway, Keep what u have and from now on Just buy BD cams one by one there is no rush just get them in the best possible price…to my understanding U R covered now it is a matter of “I want” not “I need”
BTW duplicates of sizes will come very handy it is not a matter of “IF” it is a matter of “WHEN”
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