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rockjock04
Dec 16, 2001, 6:58 PM
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I hear alot of people talking about liting up a cigar at the end of a climb or smokin a camel right before. Personally I cant stand any smoke or tobacco and hate to be around people that do smoke. But what im askin today is. What do you do with your ciggarete butts. You dont throw them on the ground or put it out on the rock do you? Im just wanderin. also, what do you think about finding cigarettes in cracks and beer bottles on the ground. Ill tell you what I think...
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missedyno
Dec 16, 2001, 7:04 PM
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i don't smoke cigarettes.
and i don't smoke ANYTHING at the crag.
for others, same rules should apply. pack it in, pack it out.
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jules
Dec 16, 2001, 7:05 PM
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Ugh... at the place I usually climb everything is covered in broken glass. It's really gross and I've seen several people get chunks of glass in their hands while they are climbing (myself included). Not fun.
I'm allergic to cigarette smoke. It makes my throat swell up. So, no one smokes around me unless they wanna get spazzed at.
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talons05
Dec 16, 2001, 7:23 PM
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We always take a coffeee can out to the climbs so we have a place to throw cigarrette butts, food wrappers, etc. I hate to see that kind of stuff laying around at the bottom of the crags.
AW
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downshift
Dec 16, 2001, 7:23 PM
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Well when I used to smoke and I was outdoors I would carry the butts out and get rid of them properly. If I didn't have a bag or something I'd strip out the leftover tabbaco (it will Biodegrate) and carry out the filter and paper.
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climb512
Dec 16, 2001, 7:37 PM
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Copenhagen, no butts left behind.
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orestes1724
Dec 16, 2001, 7:45 PM
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at the place i go its covered in broken glass because people party at the top and its really gross...i have been cut a few times and it sucks because when you climb you have to really look before you put your hand somewhere it sucks a lot. i hate it when people smoke around me...but they should have enough respect to at least not leave their cigarett buts aroung.
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spyder4evr
Dec 16, 2001, 8:06 PM
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all i need to take to the crags is a bag of chronic in the pocket with a nice apple to enjoy it. then either eat the apple or break it on the ground it does biodegrate. so if your going to smoke why not this kind?
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ratstar
Dec 16, 2001, 8:12 PM
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I cant stand when people leave all the glass I had to retire my last crash pad cause of all the cuts in the bottom. I do tke one of the biohazard tashbags up with me and bring home all I can. The glass wont cut through those and the butts cant stink up my car.
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vaness
Dec 16, 2001, 8:49 PM
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dude smoke is the worst thing in the world...i cant stand it when my step dad lights up a cigerrete in the car and the opens the window an inch like its going to help any. i have asked him to stop smoking in the car before and he freaked out..its the worst when i wake up in the middle of the night not being able to breath because of the smoke. its really gross. but yeah about the topic: every time we go climbing we pick up broken bottles and put them in a big pile then at the end of the day we take em home and throw them out.i hate getting glass stuck in me hands it sucks! the place i go to in covered in butts.. people um..live on the top and get high and drunk all the time. then they come talk to us and stuff..its weird
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jaydoc
Dec 17, 2001, 4:49 AM
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First Comment:
"Leave No Trace"
Second Comment:
It boggles the mind that athletes participating in a sport that requires such discipline and such a high fitness level would smoke. No lectures here, but, SMOKING WILL KILL YOU IN SEVERAL UNPLEASANT WAYS!!
Of course falling from several hundred feet off the ground can't be a really pleasant way to die.
Anyway, I assume that most people who climb have some desire to enjoy nature unmolested. Finding bottles, cans, and butts (the tobacco-filled kind) at your climbing area has to take away from the enjoyment of the climb. Granted, most climbing spots are fairly crowded now, but come on. Pack it out!
Jim
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pianomahnn
Dec 17, 2001, 4:55 AM
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Smoking sucks.
Go away cancer fiends.
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aulwes
Dec 17, 2001, 5:12 AM
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Never smoked, never will.
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saltspringer
Dec 17, 2001, 7:46 AM
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I smoked for thirteen long years until I started rock climbing: within a month of starting, I quite cold turkey and haven't had one in over five years. I don't miss it at all but I do remember being very concietious about leaving butts behind. I used to keep my cigs in an antique cigarette tin (how they used to sell them) and I'd pack out the old butts in the tin. Anyway, I felt like a real hypocrite the first time I went outdoor climbing & I had to take a break for a smoke; hear I was in the most incredible area I'd ever imagined and I was puffing away on a cigarette. For any younger climbers reading this post, do yourselves a favour and don't bother starting, it's not worth the hassle of being addicted to a substance that can control you to such a degree...
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kahuna3602
Dec 17, 2001, 8:32 AM
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First time I went to Shelf Road I was amazed at the climbing and amazed at how clean the area was. The only litter I found were cigarette butts. Enough said.
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blackjack
Dec 17, 2001, 9:52 AM
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i dont smoke nothing ! i hate smokes ! it causes me a headache !
and yeah he is right ! pack it in , pack it out !
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diarmid
Dec 17, 2001, 11:09 PM
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My friend smokes at the crag ... smoke blows away, he climbs like a hell fiend - best belay I ever had, always encouraging. Has a little pouch with a cigarette roller and tobbacco to save cash, and a little tin for the butts. Just be responsible and be aware of those around you.
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paintinhaler
Dec 17, 2001, 11:15 PM
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weed has no butts about it
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talons05
Dec 17, 2001, 11:20 PM
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Go inhale some paint...
AW
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squeeks
Dec 18, 2001, 1:00 AM
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i hate smoke. i have a bad lung so i cant be around it. i really hate seeing butts laying around everywhere. i had to do community service a few years ago and i didnt hate anything more then picking up cigarette butts.
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missedyno
Dec 18, 2001, 1:27 AM
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no, i don't follow cigarette smoking, especially when active in sports.
smoking other substances is another story.
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cyberdragon
Dec 18, 2001, 2:15 AM
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lord never ever smoke before u climb.
u lose so much when u do. u cant breathe as well when u do. but after u climb its fine. especially if u just climbed a hard route.
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cliffhippo
Dec 20, 2001, 7:13 PM
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Cig butts all over the ground also pisses me off! My buddy and i have a rule that if we see something that shouldn"t be left were it is we pick it up and throw it out.
(This post was edited by cliffhippo on Dec 26, 2006, 3:47 AM)
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dhoyne
Dec 20, 2001, 7:41 PM
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Man, some of you must really have a problem functioning in real society. It's one thing if you don't smoke, or even don't like smoke, but smokers don't need to hear yet another person whine about how they don't like it. I don't like how some people stink after they climb, but I don't whine.
Smoking is your choice. Yes, it's bad for you, but so what. Your choice. I put people that whine about smoke in the same category as people that walk up to you and tell you to join their religion -- I hate those people.
If you smoke, have the decency to bring your butts out of the crag with you -- it's not hard. If you don't, don't whine like a sissy and give me a holier than thou attitude.
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Dec 20, 2001, 8:48 PM
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Seems to me there is nothing worse than going to the great outdoors and finding human presence left behind....beer bottles, butts, trash, whatever!!!!! And for those of you who are advocating smoking something else you may be doing even more harm by giving gracious land owners good reasons to close down climbing areas, I certainly would not want people smoking weed on my property! True climbers should be so respectful that they would not even think of jeopardizing a climbing area whether by leaving trash or going illegal drugs while climbing. Is there not enough in climbing that makes you need something more? If so maybe it's time you though of a different sport, cause I'll be mad as hell if a climbing area is closed because of disrespectful so called climbers!
respectfully submitted
woodsE
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