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scubasnyder
Nov 8, 2003, 3:38 AM
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Does anyone else think that chalk is a mental thing, all it does is dry out my hands. In some cases i think chalk helps, but Is it really needed?
Anyways, does anyone know a good brand of chalk that will not come off in the rain, ive had it a few years ago but forgot the name, please send a PM if you know a brand thanks
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rockclimbr
Nov 8, 2003, 3:43 AM
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for me, chalk is a necessity. My hands sweat like mad in the winter, and in summer, they literally drip with sweat, so keeping them dry is a must. There was this one brand of liquid chalk that i used once, rubbed it in, and my hands were dry for the next 3 hours. Never got the name though...
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revegentil
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i need chalk. i mean, yeah it helps and isnt NEEDED all the time! but it does help on small holds when my hands are sweaty. and yeah even when i dont need it ill chalk up cuz its habit. the ritual always starts with chalking up my hands.
chris
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scubasnyder
Nov 8, 2003, 3:56 AM
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Yeah it is a habit for me also, i go though chalk like its goig out of style, wish some1 knew a good waterproof chalk
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allilovesrocks
Nov 8, 2003, 4:11 AM
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i like it...but when i forget my bag at home its not really a big deal... i need more chalk if im climbing inside vs. outside and my faaaaavorite kind is bar chalk.... liquid is great depending on how long you are climbing for... it keeps your hands dry for 2-3 hours but then wears off... it takes while to feel like its working so if you are going for more than three hours i wouldnt reccomend it...the best liquid kind is edelweiss. its actually the only liquid brand ive seen.
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scubasnyder
Nov 8, 2003, 4:19 AM
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Thanks for the reply on the chalk, i need to go find this tomarrow and try it out.
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billcoe_
Nov 8, 2003, 4:46 AM
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"but Is it really needed"
No.
You're welcome.
Bill
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pico23
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In reply to: Does anyone else think that chalk is a mental thing, all it does is dry out my hands. In some cases i think chalk helps, but Is it really needed? Anyways, does anyone know a good brand of chalk that will not come off in the rain, ive had it a few years ago but forgot the name, please send a PM if you know a brand thanks
Keeping your hands dry is important. I sweat like a pig and have oily skin especially if it's above 50F without chalk I'm greasing off everything.
I use balled chalk to minimize my impact and maximize the benefit of the chalk. The biggest abusers of chalk are boulders who cover there hands in those big chalk pots. There is no added benefit to covering your arms to the elbow in chalk but it seems as though it's part of the current climbing culture to overly use chalk like it's some kind of magic gecko powder.
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grabngrip
Nov 8, 2003, 8:29 AM
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i find it necessary to use chalk definatly helps hold on alot easier
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freelance
Nov 8, 2003, 11:32 AM
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PURE GRIP
http://www.beal-planet.com/produits/anglais/produit12.html#
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revegentil
Nov 8, 2003, 12:45 PM
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In reply to: "but Is it really needed" No. You're welcome. Bill
true but sometimes it IS needed. but hey bud, if you want to get into what is really needed (as in absolute necessity) lets leave the shoes, clothes, 3 in 1 columbia jackets home also. i know what you mean but chalk is pretty nice when sweat mixes with whatever and makes a slippery hold.
plus! you can like totally pick out the, like , coolest chalkbag. i think i look sexy in red, green, and blue plaid. haha
christopher
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revegentil
Nov 8, 2003, 2:00 PM
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In reply to: I just like having a chalk bag. I think it looks cool. :lol:
hahaha very sweet.
yeah me too...all you really need is a chalk bag and prana beanie and your a climber. i mean cmon, as long as you have those and THINK about it sometimes thats all that really matters. :mrgreen: :angel:
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rokshoxbkr19
Nov 8, 2003, 3:41 PM
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It is obviously not needed. If it were needed than people would not be able to hold onto the rock without it. It defninitely helps, but I know people who never use chalk and climb really hard. Like anything, it would take training. I don't use chalk on climbs well below my level so I can minimize my impact. But it definitely helps sometimes.
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girlclimb
Nov 8, 2003, 4:21 PM
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I don't like chalk for some reason think it makes my hands feel slippery, I really haven't used it much for the 3 yr's i've been climbing. I know a lot of people who feel they NEED chalk. I think for a lot of people with the exception of those over active sweat gland guys most are just in the habit of using it and is more of a mental thing then an actually necessity.
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ebelay
Nov 8, 2003, 4:44 PM
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There was a time when I was so "ethical" that I eschewed the use of chalk alltogether. It matters sometimes. Not all the time.
Eric
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wyattearp
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Chalk are you kidding? It is an absolute neccessity to me and everyone that I have ever climbed with. I mainly boulder, but there is something about chalking up my hands before I touch that infamous boulder or problem. I dont think you become any better of a climber by not using chalk. Should we all climb without our shoes or crashpads or even ropes to prove we are better climbers? HAHA Well that Liquid Chalk was called something like Magic Chalk in came in a bottle and you squeeze some on your hands and boom their dry. I used it as a base chalk myself, nothing beats lots of chalk and your beating rags.!
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on_sight_man
Nov 8, 2003, 6:44 PM
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It's not needed. Of course, getting to the top of the rock isn't needed either, and when it is, you can usually go around.
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orestes1724
Nov 8, 2003, 7:08 PM
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my hands sweat so much its crazy. so chalk obviously helps a lot. but i also chalk up way more then is necessary. at comps when im nervious i chalk up just constantly. i think i do it just out of habbit now, my hands are either on the wall or in the bag.
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allan_thomson
Nov 8, 2003, 11:49 PM
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I try and avoid using chalk, but I carry it with me, and evey so often, I use it if I find I can't grip without it.
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alpinerock
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you should have been climbing with me this summer, trying for a redpoint in 100+ degree weather, the crux move involving a sloper. You'd be hard pressed to tell me that chalk isn't needed every now and then.
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ronamick
Nov 9, 2003, 1:43 AM
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The Grimace Corporation makes a great waterproof chalk that is also stain proof and fat free! I use it for bouldering in rivers and scaling cliffs under the sea. This chalk isn't just a "mental" thing, it has artificial intelligence and fuzzy logic, which is more than I can say for your posts.
Send me $60, and I'll send you a giant box of it right away. Or get 2 boxes for $200, if you act now!
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ronamick
Nov 9, 2003, 1:55 AM
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Shoes are optional, and so is oxygen. Chalk is not. I have a 10 lb. sack tied around my waist with a hunk of sisal rope at all times. I may chalk up a dozen times just visualizing the sequence of a route, and even more when I'm actually out at the rocks.
Every dip should be to the elbow, and vigorously worked into the skin when possible. If you come off of a problem and you are not covered in chalk from head to toe, you are under chalking.
What could be better than to be out at the rocks with a pack full of chalk, beer and asprin?
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revegentil
Nov 9, 2003, 2:36 AM
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i also found that if i eat the chalk i dont even have to climb i just kinda stick to the rock. nice deal when i get tired.
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telemarkist
Nov 9, 2003, 3:27 AM
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it is for me, besides I can't come down off a climb until I chalk my ear hole.
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potatoe
Nov 9, 2003, 5:33 AM
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Yeah. I'd definitely say so. Usually I try not to use chalk in the gym. And although I climb like crap when I do that, when I get outdoors and use chalk, I climb a lot better (than had I been using chalk all along in the gym).
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