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wordisborn
Dec 16, 2003, 5:42 PM
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When gear is past its prime do you toss it out old or does it go into a retired gear pile?
Do you keep it for sentimental reasons?
If a piece saved your ass but it was damaged would you keep it as a souvsouvenirel
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the_pirate
Dec 16, 2003, 5:44 PM
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Any and all retired gear takes it's place of honor, proudly displayed on one of my walls.
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crazygirl
Dec 16, 2003, 6:38 PM
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I don't toss out anything. I now have a collection of destroyed gear.
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coldclimb
Dec 16, 2003, 7:16 PM
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I keep it just for the sake of keeping it. I don't know why. I'm just a gearhead. ;)
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petsfed
Dec 16, 2003, 7:35 PM
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Usually becomes some part of the decor. Or I use it for something it was never intended to do. Like hold keys.
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rokshoxbkr19
Dec 16, 2003, 8:06 PM
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when my gear gets mangled I sell to a newbie or a dominatrix.
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exposed
Dec 16, 2003, 8:18 PM
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If gear is just old I keep it and use it for things like slacklining, pulling my truck out of the mud, cutting down trees and so on. If It is damaged beyond use then I keep it to remind me that I am mortal.
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markc
Dec 16, 2003, 9:06 PM
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It depends on the gear and its wear. If something is worn to the point where I feel I should keep an eye on it, I'll often replace it but keep it around. I have an ATC that's grooved but not yet sharp, as well as a couple grooved biners in the gear closet. I can easily loan those and my old bod harness to someone for the day without fretting about failure. Old webbing may be too worn for climbing, but it can be used for strapping down loads in my truck, tying off ladders, etc.
When I've had gear that's beyond use, I've usually chucked it. There aren't any great stories behind the gear I've thrown out so far. I may retain a couple keepsakes over the long haul, but not yet.
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robmcc
Dec 16, 2003, 9:14 PM
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Generally, yes. When I got back into climbing after a decade off, I scrapped the old webbing and spectra. Just threw it out so I wouldn't confuse it with the new stuff.
Somewhere I have a 0 TCU I destroyed in a fall. That one's a keeper.
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overlord
Dec 18, 2003, 9:45 AM
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if its significant (like destroyed from a fall) i keep it, otherwise is just throw it out. a buddy of mine has a biner in two piece we found at a crag. definitely a keeper 8)
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thinksinpictures
Dec 18, 2003, 2:29 PM
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I think it would be really interesting of people posted pics of some of their mangled gear.
Post up, cowboys & cowgirls.
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lollipopchic
Dec 18, 2003, 3:57 PM
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Well I have no mangled gear yet... luckily! But I have dropped a biner from quite high up and decided to retire it. I haven't chucked it out, because I use it as a racking biner. But I don't think I will be able to chuck any of my gear out, I've become so attached to it :D
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ford
Dec 18, 2003, 4:48 PM
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pieces that have had a serious impact (like a lead fall from MY fat a$$) get moved to an "Aid only" rack, in hopes that someday Epic Ed will let me be his apprentice. (Yes Master, i will serve the dark side and use my powers to AID climb, forsaking bouldering and weekends at home!) Other than that, most of it seems to be holding up fairly well. used gear might make a really tragic sounding wind-chime. especially big old hexes...
---Ford---
must be the puppy chow
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junnos
Dec 18, 2003, 4:51 PM
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I just hand them over to my buds.
"It's a good piece man, it's only been placed a few times". :roll:
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organic
Dec 18, 2003, 4:59 PM
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In reply to: I just hand them over to my buds. "It's a good piece man, it's only been placed a few times". :roll:
I sell them on ebay and mark them as only being placed once(that is the spanish once of course).... errr I mean I retire the stuff
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dietzpa
Dec 18, 2003, 5:52 PM
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wow, this is a really unsafe thread. Way to put others in danger guys...."sell it to a newbie." I'm sure they'll appreciate it when that piece is the only thing between them and death and they got suckered into buying it by some old hack because they were trying to save a couple of bucks and trusted fellow climbers.
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junnos
Dec 18, 2003, 6:12 PM
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Ummmm, it's called sarcastic hummor.
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dietzpa
Dec 19, 2003, 1:53 AM
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it's all fun and games till somebody looses an eye.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=camalot&ht=1&sosortproperty=1&from=R10&BasicSearch=
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timmah
Dec 19, 2003, 6:06 AM
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what's ur point dude? lighten up.
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utahwiregate
Feb 10, 2004, 6:00 PM
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I have both an ATC and a Reverso sitting on my desk as paperweights, both were dropped (one by me, the other by my CP) off the top of a sinle pitch lead route up Rock Canyon (whist reaching for my lockers to set up TR--I actually believe in saving the chains).
Originally tried to do a search for when you know to retire you gear--came up with this thread.
Of the above mentioned belay devices, I am only really worried about the Reverso. A couple of smallish dings (nothing major at all) are on it, but it looks enough to not ever use it to belay/rap with. In fact, I thought it was so cool, I saved it from the swinging smash of my CR's hammer to use it as a paperweight.
Any ideas here folks? I heard something by John Long (and I am gonna paraphase here) about a person's life not being worth 20 bucks (for a replacement piece of gear). Maybe it is the part of me that regrets waste, but I can't help but wonder if the ATC is really ruined. When it fell, it fell into trees, not on a choss pile, and I can see no visible damage. I know hairline cracks MIGHT be laced all through it like icing on cofee cake, but how can I tell? To my eye it looks like it is sound.
Do I let it lie (I have replaced it twice over already, it's been sitting for 8 months belaying nada since the fall) or do I belay with it?
-Gate
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ksudyno
Feb 10, 2004, 6:30 PM
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I really don’t know how safe this is but I save the biners that don’t close right and use them if I get halfway up on a sport route and I cant finish it. So I take that bad biner and use it instead of loosing a good one, but on the binner i wrap a bunch of red tape on it and but a bunch of x's on it so some newbie will think twice before using it.
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dirtineye
Feb 10, 2004, 6:36 PM
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Like some of the other early posters, If the gear saved a fall and became suspect, I put it in the hall of fame.
IF I drop something and it takes a big dent, I toss it or give it away or it goes in the hall of shame.
I hate to climb on stuff that does not work right. IF someone would give it to me for free, I'd be running around with all new gear all the time.
Wear and tear may look rugged and cool to a newbie doofus, but I have plenty of wear and tear on me, and I don't work better because of it LOL.
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utahwiregate
Feb 10, 2004, 8:18 PM
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In reply to: Wear and tear may look rugged and cool to a newbie doofus, but I have plenty of wear and tear on me, and I don't work better because of it LOL.
This never seems to be a motivating factor for me. I don't try to look cool for all the hard core cranksters at the crag or the gym. I could give a rats a$$ when it comes to that.
What I was really HOPING for was some solid concrete experience from someone who has had the same thing w/ a belay device.
I guess I will just let the 8 months of accumulated dust lie on the ATC and keep my cool paperweight. Thanks to John Long for the thought.
Also, no offense taken, but jbc I have less than 20 posts doesn't make me a noob. I was purely curious about the durability of my ATC as it looks like nothing has happend to it. if I hung it up at the LCS someone would mistake it for a new piece of equipment and lay down a 20.
Thanks for the laughs :lol:
-Gate
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scubasnyder
Feb 11, 2004, 2:17 PM
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I keep mine on a separate rack of retired gear, its good for when your bored and wanna see how much money you spent on gear. You dont realize the cash you spend on climbing till you add it all up its crazy.
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dangermonkey
Feb 17, 2004, 5:27 AM
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In reply to: Do I let it lie (I have replaced it twice over already, it's been sitting for 8 months belaying nada since the fall) or do I belay with it?
It sounds like you are pretty concerned about the condition of the piece. If that is the case, keep it retired. One less thing to think about. If I were climbing with you, I would not want you wondering if your belay device might fail on me... or anyone elso for that matter.
Late,
CF
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