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rimrat
Sep 24, 2002, 12:11 AM
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Please take your trash with you so I don't have to and please don't be a pathetic lightweight and chip holds on routes and boulder problems that were first done 20 years ago or on any routes for that matter AND DON'T USE WIRE BRUSHES WHICH RUIN THE ROCK! IT'S JUST HOLD CHIPPING IN DISGUISE!
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mrsmylie
Sep 25, 2002, 12:50 AM
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YES!! Like Billings really has a bunch of climbing. Help protect what is there, no matter how crappy it is.
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powerandrubber
Dec 12, 2002, 10:55 PM
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Yes whoever is doing the chipping and crack bolting needs to GET A %@#$ING LIFE! Take your drill and chisel, stuff them up your candy ass and take up golf if you don't want to put effort into climbing! These routes were done long before you at a higher standard, don't bring them down to your level.
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tigerbythetail
Dec 12, 2002, 11:19 PM
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Maybe you could lay in wait and catch some of these no-talent chippers; nothing like a little frontier justice...
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oudinardin
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I agree with everything above but I have to add one thing. Billings SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
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mtrockclimber
Feb 23, 2004, 4:06 PM
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I agree with all of the other statements except for the on dealing with bolting routes or cracks......is there something wrong with bolts on a crack climb.....safety is important, after all i want to live to climb another day.
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cryder
Feb 23, 2004, 4:50 PM
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In reply to: I agree with everything above but I have to add one thing. Billings SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
Yes. Billings sucks. Dont ever come here and climb on the miles and miles of sandstone cliffs. Dont buy up our affordable houses and mess with our "nice people live here" vibe that is long gone from other cities in the state... be as closed minded as possible and do not visit. Ever.
Sucky and loving it in Billings,
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First let me address the issue of "Billings Sucks" i don't think billings sucks and i actually like it here. Issue two, not bolting anything higher than a 5.13......have you ever gotten on a 5.13 climb.......is there a reason why a climb that is easier than that cann't be bolted. Sport climbing is fun for people who can do routes that may seem easy to you but are still chalenging to them. Trad climbing is great......for a person to get comfortable placing gear, they must first become comfortable with lead climbing a sport route.....cliping a quick draw on a rout that is 5.10 and 200 feet up maybe just as a thrill to someone as a climber free climbing some insane route. What makes climbing so cool is that each person can get what they want out of it, if i only climb a 5.9 for the day, but i am happy with my climb, isn't that all that should matter.....regardless of if the route had bolts on it or it was a trad climb. You say that i should stay home. Why? I live climbing as much as the next guy........but i see nothing wrong with climbing a chalenging sport climb.....never have, never will. ~Climb hard, Climb often~
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To mtrockclimber.
You're a bloody moron coming up with statements like "nothing wrong with bolting cracks etc". Jez mate, get a grip.
1) Bolting where there's alternative natural pro is wrong! END OF STORY!!!
2) Retro-bolting is wrong! END OF STORY!!!!
3) If you want to stay safe, take up lawn-bowls. With your attitude, you're trying to bring the climbs down to your level, rather than bringing yourself up to the climbs level. And that's wrong! END OF STORY!!!!
4) No climbs 'need' bolts. It is always the climber who 'needs' the bolts. END OF STORY!!!!!
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In reply to: I agree with all of the other statements except for the on dealing with bolting routes or cracks......is there something wrong with bolts on a crack climb.....safety is important, after all i want to live to climb another day.
Before this becomes a huge debate about bolting near a protectable crack, keep in mind that mtrock has 2 posts... most likely this is a troll... Just reread it and think how you would word it if you wanted to get a ton of people to fly off at the handle. Then ignore it.
Soapbox = off
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mtrockclimber
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Well i guess everyone has their own opinion on the matter, bolting or not bolting, i am not saying i personally do the bolting......but as long as i see a bolted route i see nothing wrong with sport climbing it.....for people talking about placing pro instead of bolts.......have they ever placed pro on sandstone? i can understand having good natural protection on granite or other hard rocks, sandstone pro can be very sketchy at times. Oh well. Everyone climbs the way they want......that's what makes it fun.
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mtroclkclmber:
You are not a mountain rockclimber you are not a rockclimber. DO NOT LEAVE THE GYM. NEVER LEAVE THE GYM. Get your boney ass to Zion or Indian Creek and bolt some cracks and see what happens. Geez. Children today.
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mtrockclimber
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Let me first say i am not bolting any routes.......second, i hate gym climbing, third as long as other people are putting in bolts, why not use them. why don't we drop the subject and all just get along. lol
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Yessssss!
*pumps fist in air*
Another crack-bolting thread! I missed the last 1,578 of them! :roll:
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oudinardin
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Billings sucks ass. Always will and rimrocks is gay.
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Guys, if you can't make this thread into a civil discussion, it's going to Community. I'll be keeping an eye on it.
Thanks.
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oudinardin
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In reply to: Ouch! Such BIG words! :lol: just for that me and my homies are going to keep your rack and bike(as crappy as they are). Whatever Mike!
Never happen. Your in denial, buddy. Billings sucks and the sooner you except that, the better off you'll be. Maybe when you get out of high school, you can figure that one out.
Katydid- I'm just trying to make a point here. How much info is needed for this choss-pit of a climbing area anyway? Instead of community, How about throwing it in the garbage where it belongs?
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katydid moved this thread from Regional Discussions to Community.
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Temper, temper!
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oudinardin
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In reply to: In reply to: I agree with all of the other statements except for the on dealing with bolting routes or cracks...... In reply to: is there something wrong with bolts on a crack climb.....safety is important, after all i want to live to climb another day. If you want to live to climb another day, learn how to place effective gear in cracks and strive to improve your climbing skills, don't degrade crack climbs with bolts. 5.13 crack climbs have been onsighted on gear, do you think it's really necessary to bolt anything easier than that? Better yet if you really want to minimize risk, tope rope the thing or STAY HOME. As for the statement that "Billings sucks"....WHATEVER dude! |
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