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jaylaka
Mar 13, 2004, 2:17 AM
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ideally, i'd complete the climb/route in my friend's memory. i think that would help bring closure as well as a finality to my friend's death.
that said, i would not be willing to risk my own life in doing so.
jen
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yay_chris
Mar 13, 2004, 3:01 AM
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Put it this way: if you'd died on a climb, would you want your friend to climb it in your memory?
I think that would be a nice tribute.
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moeman
Mar 13, 2004, 4:03 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: it is a risk we take every time we climb If you're risking your life every time you climb, then I think you're doing something wrong. Yes, there is some risk associated with climbing a big mountain or climbing in a remote area, but these risks hardly transfer to EVERY climb. Unless of course you only climb in those sorts of areas.
You risk your life every morning when you get out of bed. You could die any day in a car accident. You could die within the next hour from a sudden, unexpected stroke. Death IS a part of life- you face it, deal with it, and are reminded of it every day. You see loved ones die, and you know that some day, be it tomorrow or in 50 years, you will die too. All the more incentive to REALLY live. I say climb the route as a last salute to your buddy, but only is the route isn't excessively dangerous- no need to add another body to the death count.
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charlierock
Mar 13, 2004, 4:22 AM
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I think if I ever get the chance to go back and do the climb that took my friends life i will do it. Finish it for him.
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andyw
Mar 13, 2004, 5:22 AM
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yal i think we are missing something, his friend died on this climb, its not about going back for the thrill or to try it.
If you want to go back to the climb go back and climb it, if you aren't sure then respect that nature is a powerful thing to be messing with. if your friend died on it and you want to respect him then just dont go
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nthusiastj
Mar 13, 2004, 5:27 AM
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I would say yes. I would see it as unfinished business and damn good Karma.
J
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skiclimb
Mar 13, 2004, 5:37 AM
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When I went back it was alone...not to conquer anything .. just to say good by and reflect on times spent with a good friend..to contemplate life and loss and feel fully to appreciate the value of a friends life... by extension the value of any one life.. it was both a beautiful and terible experience but for me an important one.
Unless such a route is foolish for you then I highly recomend doing so... you will face an important experience don't avoid it.
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timstich
Mar 13, 2004, 5:45 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: death is a part of life I suggest that death is not a part of life, it is the end of it.
When people say this, I think they mean that dealing with the issue of our own mortality and that of others is a part of life, which is hard not to acknowledge.
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dirtineye
Mar 13, 2004, 9:15 AM
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I have a friend who is fond of saying, " That a route has claimed lives adds charater and mystique to the route.", but I am not sure I would want that much character and mystique if any of the lives claimed were friends of mine.
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daisuke
Mar 13, 2004, 1:43 PM
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I guess it all depends.
Take for example that guy who got caught on a mountain and had to have his legs amputated, and then started climbing mountains, he eventually froze to death. Life sends you little signs, and you have to learn to interpret them if only for the few times it actually means something
if a friend died on K2... or a similarly harrying route or mountain... I wouldn't go up it, going up those routes is a calculated death wish. but if they were to die because of some freak mistake or accident on a well proven route I'd also done... then I might
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roc_klimber
Mar 15, 2004, 3:35 AM
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HELL YEAH!!!
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harrisha
Mar 15, 2004, 3:42 AM
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I'd do it as a way of paying homage to my friend but let your feelings guide you. I don't have this experience but a friend of mines cousin was killed a couple of years ago I think in the wind rivers. That was tough on his whole family his mom still hasn't let his gear go-probably never will. What ever you do don't get killed in the process if you do it out of respect for your friend summiting/topping out is great but he/she would like it better for you to live.
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crazygirl
Mar 15, 2004, 4:44 AM
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I wouldn't.
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jackiechanning
Mar 23, 2004, 6:34 PM
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i would say DEFINATELY DO IT!!!!!! you gotta man
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uwmeghan
Mar 24, 2004, 5:36 PM
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I've only been climbing a short time, but I've seen how freaked out one of my good friends was when she was at the bottom of a climb where her friend got hurt, he went out on a stretcher as I undestand it, but ended up being ok. What we did was I lead the climb and she seconded it, which made her feel a little more secure but allowed her to do the climb. For us though, she was terrified the whole time I did the climb too. Fear is a powerful thing, there are lots of climbs in the world, so don't do something you aren't comfortable with. With that said, death instigates a whole different level of fear. Climbing the route isn't the only way to remember a person, do what feels right.
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craig_climber
Mar 29, 2004, 2:05 AM
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This is an interesting question. If I were capable of climbing it, I would do it out of respect for my friend. I would want to see what he would have seen had he completed it. Once I reached the top, I would probably place something small there as a sort of memorial.
I just hope I never have to be in this situation. :(
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