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gogo
Apr 22, 2004, 4:02 PM
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Alright, I got the option of either a Bittersweet single-wide pad or a Mammut crashpad. The Mammut is an inch thicker, and will cost me $120, as opposed to the Bittersweet which is $100. If anyone knows much about these two pads, and can tell me which I should go for, help would be appreciated.
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Mike
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wanlessrm
Apr 22, 2004, 4:10 PM
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I love my Asana crash pad.
Asanapackworks.com
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jay_climbingchick
Apr 22, 2004, 5:02 PM
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I have the bittersweet crachpad and I love it.
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roseraie
Apr 22, 2004, 5:34 PM
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Go for the Bittersweet... if you want to bottom out every time you land on it. If you get the Bittersweet, never do a problem where you might land on anything besides your feet because you can still get really hurt. Go for the Bittersweet.. if you want all the stitching to unravel... if you're never going to do a problem tallerr than 6 feet... if you want straps sewn on crooked so you tip over when you're wearing the pad on your back.
Okay, I lied. Don't go for the Bittersweet. They SUCK. Just about the only positive side is that they're so soft (read: flimsy) that they're comfortable to sleep on.
Meg
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drrock
May 11, 2004, 12:17 PM
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russman
May 11, 2004, 1:09 PM
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I don't have either...I have the Franklin Dropzone...but I have been talking with the NEW owner of BitterSweet (clifee) and he said some of the stigmas he is trying to overcome is workmanship and customer service with the products.
He knows there was problems in the past, and he is wroking on correcting all of them with the new ownership/location.
You can contact Cliff at info@bsweetclimb.com for more info....
http://www.bittersweetclimbing.com/
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mythbittersweet
May 14, 2004, 12:10 AM
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Dear Unhappy Meg,
I'm sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience with the Bittersweet Crash Pad. I am the new Bittersweet owner and am working hard to make changes for the better, so you won't hurt your little tush. Here are some of the new changes:
Thicker, denser foam
1680 D Ballistics Nylon
T-69 Nylon thread
new smoother buckle design
Attacking Bittersweet is like attacking me personally, as I sit here weeping, with a shotgun to my head ......... :wink:
KA-POWWWW!!!!!
Good bye cruel world!
Love,
Cliff Farrington
Owner of the NEW Bittersweet
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shrubby
May 14, 2004, 1:12 AM
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i got the xl bittersweet a few months ago, the sewing along the seam fell apart on the first use. it is a piece of crap. however, they are sending me a new "improved" one and letting me keep the other one too. so thats not all that bad i guess.
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climbhigh23
May 14, 2004, 1:18 AM
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In reply to: i got the xl bittersweet a few months ago, the sewing along the seam fell apart on the first use. it is a piece of crap. however, they are sending me a new "improved" one and letting me keep the other one too. so thats not all that bad i guess.
had the same problem with mine. ended up having to sew it back together, not after the first use, but not too many uses later. also the stitching on the little "loops" you use to close it popped, and the stitching that holds the shoulder straps on ripped too. hope you beefed up the stitches on the new pads...
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mythbittersweet
May 14, 2004, 1:25 AM
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WE ARE THE NEW OWNERS OF BITTERSWEET AND JUST CAME OUT WITH ALL NEW PRODUCTS, IF ANY ONE WANTS TO BITCH GIVE ME A CALL, AND I'LL HOOK YOU UP WITH A PHAT DEAL.
HAVE SOME SYMPATHY FOR THE NEW OWNERS AND TRUST THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE BITTERSWEET ONE OF THE BEST COMPANIES OUT THERE.
BITCHING AND WHINING ON RC.COM WILL GET YOU NOWHERE. HOWEVER BEING AN ADULT AND CONTACTING US DIRECTLY WILL GET YOU FURTHER THAN TRYING TO PUT THE NEW BITTERSWEET OUT OF BUSINESS.
THANKS, HAVE A NICE DAY.
CLIFF
(303) 504-3611
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climbhigh23
May 14, 2004, 1:29 AM
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In reply to: WE ARE THE NEW OWNERS OF BITTERSWEET AND JUST CAME OUT WITH ALL NEW PRODUCTS, IF ANY ONE WANTS TO b---- GIVE ME A CALL, AND I'LL HOOK YOU UP WITH A PHAT DEAL. HAVE SOME SYMPATHY FOR THE NEW OWNERS AND TRUST THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE BITTERSWEET ONE OF THE BEST COMPANIES OUT THERE. b---- AND WHINING ON RC.COM WILL GET YOU NOWHERE. HOWEVER BEING AN ADULT AND CONTACTING US DIRECTLY WILL GET YOU FURTHER THAN TRYING TO PUT THE NEW BITTERSWEET OUT OF BUSINESS. THANKS, HAVE A NICE DAY. CLIFF (303) 504-3611
i'm not trying to get anywhere...or put anyone out of business. i was just answering the original question. sorry that you are taking it personal, it's not meant as an attack on you or the new bittersweet. i have no doubt the new and improved bittersweet pads the the sh1t, but my experience isn't with the new and improved.
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shrubby
May 14, 2004, 6:32 AM
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i wasnt trying to put bitter sweet out of business. i was simply telling like it is. the pad was a piece of crap. it fell apart, but lke was stated there are supposed to be new and improved ones on the way
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the_dude
May 14, 2004, 6:35 AM
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I lay down a sofa cushin within webbing straps on it and call it good. Anybody with a designer pad (Pre-made) is a homo! You have to wear a Mexican Sombrero too..... Sorry, just had to make fun of the old Heuco hard asses!
Still had great times at pete's!
The Dude
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skiorclimb
May 14, 2004, 9:20 AM
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I have a Bittersweet single wide, had it for a year. After much use/abuse my pad seams to be free of all defects. As for the pad thickness, some problems just require more than one pad to be totaly safe. But who ever said bouldering was suposed to be totally safe? The BS gives good coverage area, a pocket, adjustable strap system(to acomadate a pack), and metal buckles. I am just as satisfied now as when I first reviewed it for RC.com. Franklin Dropzone is another good pad with denser foam it your worried about getting a bruised bottom or such. Just bear in mind it is heavier.
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metrogroaz
May 14, 2004, 10:02 AM
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Just bought the bittersweet single fold at the PBB. Got a great deal on it and love it. I have bouldered with the metolius XXL, and the ElePhat pad previously and I see no real difference so far. I tore a ligament about 2 months ago now, and recently highballed a boulder, took a fall and didnt really feel it, even in my bad ankle. I guess I must of gotten the newer ones, but the guys were nice at the PBB and great pad for the money.
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overlord
May 14, 2004, 10:09 AM
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folks, heres your chance to get in touch with the manufacturer and suggest some changes for the better. i suggest you accept it and try to make a few constructive suggestions. its nice to have a manufacturer who cares for the feedback. all climbing related manufacturers should be like that.
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May 14, 2004, 11:32 AM
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phaedrus
May 14, 2004, 1:14 PM
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In reply to: I don't have either...I have the Franklin Dropzone...but I have been talking with the NEW owner of BitterSweet (clifee) and he said some of the stigmas he is trying to overcome is workmanship and customer service with the products. He knows there was problems in the past, and he is wroking on correcting all of them with the new ownership/location. You can contact Cliff at info@bsweetclimb.com for more info.... http://www.bittersweetclimbing.com/
One correction. The link is actually: http://www.bsweetclimb.com/
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russman
May 14, 2004, 1:42 PM
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Both direct straight to them 8^)
Thanx phaedrus....I am glad Cliff jumped in.....Nice to see you Cliff. Taalk at you soon Buddy
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climbingfreak
May 15, 2004, 2:38 AM
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I just got mine and I really like it :D . Bittersweet is a great pad for the money.
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gogo
May 18, 2004, 5:21 PM
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I ended up getting the bittersweet and its been working out fine so far,
thanks for all of the opinions.
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nut_tool
May 18, 2004, 5:30 PM
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Mammut...quality is much better!
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frigginfreddy
May 25, 2004, 10:10 PM
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The new versions of the Bittersweet pads rock....The foam is a good bit thicker/ much denser, and new 1680 denier ballistics material (along with nylon stitching) makes it a much nicer product, with a great price point.
Cliff is doing a heck of a job trying to turn this company around- its nice to see a manufacturer that cares about his end product more than making a quik buck.
I am currently doing sales/product development for Bittersweet, so I care too.....
feel free to respond with suggestions....
Fred
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