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lazyboy
Apr 27, 2002, 8:19 PM
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I'm thinking of grabbing some Boreal Zens. Its either that or the pyros, I"m wondering what other people have to say about em before i get em.
the shoeless climber
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miagi
Apr 28, 2002, 2:06 PM
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I just bought the zens from http://www.sportextreme.com for 70$!!!!! Definitly buy from there if your considering buying shoes. That is almost half off the retail price. Anyways, I found my zens to be very promising. Smearing is somewhat decent, and it edges very well. The fusion 4 rubber is pretty sticky, and lets you pull off some tough problems. I got a size and half down, and it was really uncomfortable. After awhile though, it turned out that 1.5 size down was the best bet since my shoes stretched out. The thing I liked best was its ability on roofs/overhangs. The toe hooks really well. The only thing that I wished was better was the sole stiffness. Ive tried to edge on some dime size edges, but the sole bends and I slip. Whether you get the pyros or zens, you will be happy. From the Climbing Gear Guide, the specs on both shoes are basically the same. The pyros are a 2002 model and that is about the only difference.
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climbingaddict
Apr 28, 2002, 2:57 PM
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hey,
I've heard that Zen are awesome, and so is Pyro, but since I'm a 510 kinda guy, so, i can't help you on that...
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crackaddict
Apr 28, 2002, 3:03 PM
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I have 2 pair now. I was able to get my 2nd pair for $56 at sports extreme but I think that was the last time they are going to have them that cheap.
They are a great shoe!
I love them for hard edging. I used to only use them on sport but they work well on cracks too.
I am not sure if I would wear them on all day routes though.
Rockitup!
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psalmadventurer
Apr 29, 2002, 4:26 AM
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hey i have pyros and i like them. I had to order 2 pairs to get the right fit, they are unlined so I can only imagine that they will stretch quite a bit. The heel is really big so if you have a narrow heel than make sure you try them on, that is why I had to order 2 pairs. They are pretty easy to get on. Much better for edging than my last pair of Boreals...Maybe this will help. Jennifer
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sonofspork
Apr 29, 2002, 4:37 AM
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I climb at a gym called Rockreation in costa mesa, CA and there are a few sponsored climbers that climb or work there. Two or three of them are sponsored by Boreal and they say that they really like the pyros. I forget exactly what they said, but i think it was something to the effect of "the heel's are better on the pyros". Personally, the only pair of Boreal shoes that I own are the Aces.
Hope I could help.
-sONofSpORk
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psalmadventurer
Apr 29, 2002, 5:01 AM
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the heels are good as long as you have got the right fit. :-D
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jt512
Apr 29, 2002, 6:06 PM
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Get 'em resoled with 5.10 C4 rubber.
-Jay
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cosmo
May 1, 2002, 5:28 PM
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I've got a pair of the Zens. I've had them for almost 4 months now. I'm very happy with them. The only complaint I have about them is there's a lot of dead space in the heel area, at least on my feet. That's not a problem unless you're doing a serious heel hook, in which case, I've had the shoe almost come off.
They're really great for edging and smearing. They're not as comfortable as the Mythos but they're tolerable.
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