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andyw
Jul 22, 2004, 2:17 PM
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I'm looking to invest in a new rope and wondered what would be the best thickness for sport leading and what brand.
How much would you pay for the item as well?
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dontfall
Jul 22, 2004, 2:22 PM
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dontfall moved this thread from General to Gear Heads.
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vegastradguy
Jul 22, 2004, 3:05 PM
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Although there are probably a hundred threads answering this very question....
10.2-10.5mm, 60m long.
Brand is subjective, they all work. Depends mostly on how you like how the rope handles.
Price should be in the $100-$150 range. some are cheaper, some are more expensive, but most fall in this range.
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geezergecko
Jul 22, 2004, 8:32 PM
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I would think that for sport leading, a more important parameter would be the rope's impact force, or lack of. A rope that gives you a nice soft catch would be more desirable although you pay for it with more rope stretch.
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coylec
Jul 22, 2004, 8:40 PM
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Is this rope going to be for working sport routes or doing those .14e redpoints?
What I mean is, are you going to use your old rope for working and use the new baby for the onsight/redpoint stuff?
If its for working, I'd go with 10mm or larger. If it was for those ultrahard redpoints, I'd go with the lightest bit of twine that qualifies as a single rope.
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vegastradguy
Jul 22, 2004, 8:50 PM
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Impact Force is important to a point...at least IMHO. Its definitely a major factor when considering ropes, but all ropes pass this test and will catch you without hurting you...
now this is also considering this is a first line. when i first started leading, falling wasnt high on the list of things to do. i didnt start taking falls on sport until this season.
however, if you're trying to decide between ropes, and all things are equal, pick the rope with the lower impact force, you'll be glad you did.
Beal lines have the lowest impact force on the market, then (generally) Bluewater, and then kind of everyone else.
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tradklime
Jul 22, 2004, 9:57 PM
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Beal, 10 mil or under, 60 M or longer.
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paulraphael
Jul 23, 2004, 2:28 AM
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a small suggestion for anyone buying any kind of rope ...
look at the rope's weight in g/meter rather than its diameter.
diameter is a borderline useless measure, because there are 10.2 ropes that weigh more than 10.5 ropes and 9.9 ropes that weigh more than 10.0 ropes, etc.
in fact, the diameters often seem flat out fictional. check out rope reviews where they list the measured diameter next to the stated diameter. the number ends up meaning very little.
looking at the weight per meter at least tells you if you're making comparisons that make sense ... rather than comparing a sports car to a pickup truck, etc..
then you can look at impact force, falls held, or whatever other qualities are most important to you.
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bukel
Jul 29, 2004, 12:09 AM
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I was reading the numbers of the mammut ropes compared to the beal ropes and it seems to me that the beal ropes are better. Does anyone have an opinion about this? I know that mammot is very popular but maybe beal is better.
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vegastradguy
Jul 29, 2004, 1:29 AM
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Beal has a much softer catch than any rope on the market.
Of course, the Mammut lines are among the sturdiest and long lived.
It's a trade-off, depending on what your primary application is. If you're going to be working sport routes alot and taking alot of falls, then you're going to want a low impact force. Beal cant be beat in this arena.
I personally prefer BlueWater. They're a good mix of both sides. Good handling, low impact force (relatively), sharp-edge resistance, and a high number of falls make them my favorite line.
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Jul 29, 2004, 1:41 AM
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I bought a mammut infinity <9.5mm> superdry rope. It cost me almost 200 dollars but I feel it was definately worth the money. I would recommend this rope very highly if you are like me and do not toprope very often. I use this rope to lead sport and trad as a single rope and also lead trad with doubles of this rope . It is very light and easy to manage, yet it has no noticable difference in friction when using an ATC as opposed to a larger diameter rope.
Bottom line is that there are many good ropes out there and most people have an affinity for their rope because, obviously, it has saved their life so many times :) Take what everyone says, including me, with a grain of salt
Jeff
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Jul 29, 2004, 3:38 AM
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overlord
Jul 29, 2004, 9:07 AM
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for sport leading i would suggest 9.5-10.2 70m rope. go thicker if you plan on doing TR, but if its just for leading you can go with 9.5 no problem.
as for brands, go with mammut, millet or edelweiss.
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