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coylec
Oct 8, 2004, 7:40 AM
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As with all gear, once you've reached the advanced level, the decision about what specific gear to use is all yours, as it should be. (Long, p. 72)
Is there a 'best' piece of climbing gear, like "best" carabiner or "best" cam?
coylec
Cite: Long, John and Criag Luebben, "Advanced Rock Climbing". Guilford, CT: Globe Pequot Press. Pg. 72
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jbell2355
Oct 8, 2004, 11:34 AM
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Uh, the question is rhetorical, so you don't want anyone to answer it. I'm inclined to tell you, though, that the best piece of climbing gear is a #1 Rock Empire cam.
Really, what the hell kind of question is this?
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imnotbob
Oct 8, 2004, 11:41 AM
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yes
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kyhangdog
Oct 8, 2004, 1:02 PM
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Actually, a rhetorical question is a question that is actually making a statement. For example, "haven't I told you a thousand times not to ask rhetorical questions?" See, I'm actually telling you something. However, yes there is a best piece of gear; the Perrin Wedge.
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jbell2355
Oct 8, 2004, 1:07 PM
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Actually, kyhangdog, you're wrong. Webster's II New Riverside Dictionary, Office Edition defines "rhetorical question" as "A question to which one does not expect an answer."
Therefore, since Coylec purposefully stated that his question was rhetorical, he does not expect any answers from us. Perhaps he should have locked the thread immediately after his original post!
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kyhangdog
Oct 8, 2004, 1:10 PM
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Interesting. I guess I come at it from a literary/writing perspective. I teach composition and rhetoric at a high school. My text, "Rhetoric and Composition" states: a rhetorical question is one which the user intends to make a point, as opposed to questioning which intends an answer. Weird.
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kyhangdog
Oct 8, 2004, 1:16 PM
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rhetorical question:
http://humanities.byu.edu/rhetoric/Figures/R/rhetorical%20questions.htm
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jbell2355
Oct 8, 2004, 1:17 PM
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I don't doubt that there are multiple connotations to the term "rhetorical question" and I apologize if my previous post came across as rude.
I actually think that we are in agreement. If Coylec was making a statement in the form of a question, he would not expect an answer to his question (because it wasn't really a question; it was a statement).
Anyway, the bottom line is that this thread is going nowhere.
In pondering the original post, I would answer (although no answer is required) that there is no BEST piece of gear generally speaking. There is perhaps a BEST piece of gear in a specific situation. No single biner is the best in the world, but for a particular application, one biner may excel.
Why even consider this?
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kyhangdog
Oct 8, 2004, 1:22 PM
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Rude? Nah... you wanna hear rude, sit in on my debate class. The students usually start out using strategy, but the discourse normally turns into: "girl, you 'bout as stupid as you look!" To which the other feline reponds: "who did your hair this week? The school for the blind?" So, no rudeness. This thread is keeping me from actually working today. Let's keep going with it.
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fixednut
Oct 8, 2004, 1:27 PM
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Yay for public education!
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geezergecko
Oct 8, 2004, 1:30 PM
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anykineclimb
Oct 8, 2004, 1:37 PM
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Way to go Geezer!
This thread was totally highjacked and you HAD to bring it back on track.. :wink:
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fixednut
Oct 8, 2004, 1:38 PM
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Yay for helmets!
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snod_ix
Oct 8, 2004, 2:52 PM
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The first 4 tricams by far :wink: work when nothing else will
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arrrghjp
Oct 8, 2004, 2:54 PM
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My favorite piece of gear is usually the one that keeps me from decking on any particular day.
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robmcc
Oct 8, 2004, 2:55 PM
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The rope.
Rob
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omenbringer
Oct 8, 2004, 3:13 PM
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Laugh if you will but my favorite piece of gear is the #5 Wild Country Tech friend I carry on almost every climb. Why you ask? Cause I love placing it; 1) I get to lose a lot of weight when I place it and 2) each time I place it I get to justify both its expense and the trouble of carrying it.
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dynoguy
Oct 8, 2004, 3:21 PM
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My favorite peice of climbing gear is my Anasazis.
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danbensen
Oct 8, 2004, 4:03 PM
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chalk
when your hand sweat like mine do, you cant climb without it unless its the middle of febuary
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coylec
Oct 8, 2004, 4:32 PM
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While I was unclear, my intent in this thread was to have people respond to both the statement and rhetorical question ... I mentioned it was rhetorical because the yes/no answer to the question isn't what's important.
I don't think there is ever a best piece of gear. Every application has strengths and weaknesses, and no single piece of gear can do it all.
guess I shoulda phrased that better.
coylec
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gohighgodeep
Oct 8, 2004, 4:40 PM
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My brain... if you leave that at home, you may as well plan on decking.
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robmcc
Oct 8, 2004, 4:43 PM
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In reply to: My brain... if you leave that at home, you may as well plan on decking.
I'll keep that in mind. How do you propose I remove it, though? And will you want it back when I'm done? Should I bring a towel so I don't have to sit it in the dirt or on a cold rock?
And who is going to label all the nerves? Putting them back in the right place is going to be a royal PITA.
Rob
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caughtinside
Oct 8, 2004, 4:49 PM
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For me it's been shoes that really fit. Shoes that I can wear for hours without sacrificing much in the way of 'performance.'
Moccasyms.
I considered saying rope as well, but so far one rope has just been as good as another rope...
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michhiker
Oct 8, 2004, 5:44 PM
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I thought that we had established once and for all, that a yellow lab was everyone's favorite piece of gear for offwidths.
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