|
nicklikesfire
Feb 3, 2005, 3:57 AM
Post #101 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jan 9, 2004
Posts: 149
|
I bet the orignial poster started this thread as a ploy to drive down the demand of CCH aliens, ensuring that he would be able to buy as many as he wanted without all the waiting, maybe even get his hands on some hybrids if things went well.
|
|
|
|
|
sbaclimber
Feb 3, 2005, 4:33 AM
Post #103 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jan 22, 2004
Posts: 3118
|
In reply to: 7 pages of reading, and no pic yet...the suspense is killing me...i'm gonna go climb...
amen to that!
|
|
|
|
|
oldfart
Feb 3, 2005, 4:41 AM
Post #104 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 6, 2004
Posts: 76
|
I'd like to thank everyone for working so hard to give our sport what it's been sorely lacking for so long: The atmosphere of a good old fashioned NTSB investigation.
If someone could follow up with a metallurgy analysis, well, that would just kick ass too.
Thanks!
|
|
|
|
|
campo
Feb 3, 2005, 5:06 AM
Post #105 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Feb 19, 2004
Posts: 212
|
This is outta control....
Grab the helmets..its flying pretty thick in here :lol:
|
|
|
|
|
moof
Feb 3, 2005, 6:49 AM
Post #106 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 17, 2003
Posts: 400
|
Aliens have a pretty good track record for me so far. My buddy whipped on my yellow, I've winged onto my red, and took a pretty good one onto my other buddies green alien. So far only one has pulled, a green-yellow C2 placement in a nasty horizontal flared pin scar that I failed to bounce test (I was sketched about the previous blue TCU, which also pulled), that was the time the green held me. Come to think about it, I've only taken one other legit fall, and that was onto a fat nut.
Aliens good.
My $0.02...
|
|
|
|
|
peroxide
Feb 3, 2005, 9:57 AM
Post #107 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 3, 2004
Posts: 117
|
I called this dude on the first page...
If you make slanderous claims you have to back it up with some details and evidence. I feel the same suspense as I felt during the OJ trial...where is the missing glove?????
"If it don't fit...you gotta aquit"
So.... in order of importance the quietmonk needs to get a little less quiet
1) Lets get some details on the conditions of the fall. What route, placement etc.
2) Get a freaking camera and take a picture of the cam
3) Lets get this info and get CCH to comment.
4) Or we "wreak havok and let slip the dogs of war" and have an internet lynch mob to get this guy to put a slightly more responsible title on the thread.
5) You know...screw it...I am going to go freeze my butt off and go climbing only with my aliens for pro...
T3 for getting this many pages with little to know response from the original poster....
If there is a design flaw or weakness in a piece of gear it is the company (and secondarily the customer's) responsability to bring light to the issue. However, irresponsible slander is just like talking about safe sex and abstinence and then hoping you got the discipline to pull out in time.
P
|
|
|
|
|
murf
Feb 3, 2005, 4:28 PM
Post #108 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Mar 15, 2002
Posts: 1150
|
In reply to: With all due respect, fire_eyes, you are FAR too much of a novice to be making statements about Aliens v. Camalots. You've admitted elsewhere that you've never even led on gear. Just a friendly flame :) Don't embarrass yerself, a'ight?
Too late for that...
|
|
|
|
|
flagstaff_climber
Feb 3, 2005, 7:22 PM
Post #109 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Mar 22, 2002
Posts: 310
|
Read those little white pieces of paper that come with your gear, CLIMBING is DANGEROUS... even when you do everything right and the gear is up to or above standard CLIMBING IS STILL DANGEROUS....
Gear can and does fail, just because we like to tell our selfs that is doesn't. If you look at all the falls taken on Aliens versus the documented failure rate I would say they compare favorably with the safety standards for any mission critical gear in any industry.... But alas they DO FAIL.
Rick
|
|
|
|
|
epic_ed
Feb 3, 2005, 7:50 PM
Post #110 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 17, 2002
Posts: 4724
|
Where the hell you been, Rick? :wink:
Ed
|
|
|
|
|
billcoe_
Feb 3, 2005, 8:25 PM
Post #111 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 30, 2002
Posts: 4694
|
In reply to: This space available for advertising. Please contact Epic Ed Productions to learn how we can increase your retail or website traffic.
Awesome idea Ed while we wait for pics. I'll bite:
How much?
|
|
|
|
|
epic_ed
Feb 3, 2005, 9:36 PM
Post #112 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 17, 2002
Posts: 4724
|
In reply to: In reply to: This space available for advertising. Please contact Epic Ed Productions to learn how we can increase your retail or website traffic. Awesome idea Ed while we wait for pics. I'll bite: How much?
How much ya got?
|
|
|
|
|
jt512
Feb 3, 2005, 9:51 PM
Post #113 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 12, 2001
Posts: 21904
|
In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: I tend to regard a 12 foot fall as a rather long fall. If you regard that as a short fall, make sure you have a good life insurance policy. cheers, rob.calm Not to derail this, but are you serious? You must be one of the most cautious of the cautious climbers Rob You're damn right! When the gear gets below my navel, I'm looking for the next piece to insert. rob.calm Well, I suppose that that's an effective way to train endurance, anyway. -Jay Not so. It's an effective way to climb quickly. No hesitation and no quivering. No need to for strange warrior mental exercises, breathing techniques or visualizing. It's just plug and play. vale, robertusPunctumPacificus
Let me get this straight: Stopping to place more frequent pro results in climbing faster. Now that's a novel conclusion.
GOTY '05.
-Jay
|
|
|
|
|
jt512
Feb 3, 2005, 9:53 PM
Post #114 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 12, 2001
Posts: 21904
|
In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: I tend to regard a 12 foot fall as a rather long fall. If you regard that as a short fall, make sure you have a good life insurance policy. cheers, rob.calm Not to derail this, but are you serious? You must be one of the most cautious of the cautious climbers Rob You're damn right! When the gear gets below my navel, I'm looking for the next piece to insert. rob.calm Well, I suppose that that's an effective way to train endurance, anyway. -Jay Not so. It's an effective way to climb quickly. No hesitation and no quivering. No need to for strange warrior mental exercises, breathing techniques or visualizing. It's just plug and play. vale, robertusPunctumPacificus
Let me get this straight: Stopping to place more frequent pro results in climbing faster. Now that's a novel conclusion.
GOTY '05.
-Jay
|
|
|
|
|
jt512
Feb 3, 2005, 9:54 PM
Post #115 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 12, 2001
Posts: 21904
|
In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: I tend to regard a 12 foot fall as a rather long fall. If you regard that as a short fall, make sure you have a good life insurance policy. cheers, rob.calm Not to derail this, but are you serious? You must be one of the most cautious of the cautious climbers Rob You're damn right! When the gear gets below my navel, I'm looking for the next piece to insert. rob.calm Well, I suppose that that's an effective way to train endurance, anyway. -Jay Not so. It's an effective way to climb quickly. No hesitation and no quivering. No need to for strange warrior mental exercises, breathing techniques or visualizing. It's just plug and play. vale, robertusPunctumPacificus
Let me get this straight: Stopping to place more frequent pro results in climbing faster. Now that's a novel conclusion.
GOTY '05.
-Jay
|
|
|
|
|
capcom1701
Feb 3, 2005, 10:06 PM
Post #116 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 22, 2004
Posts: 79
|
In reply to: AB, Why don't you get your VW converted to BIO Diesel in Asheville and have Daddy send you another check! Thanks for saving our planet by growing dreadlocks and talking smack!
My dear chap, you are mistaken! The entire point of Biodiesel is that you can usually use it without conversion, unless you have rubber hoses in your fuel system, which is usually the case only in vehicles made before 1996. check it out. Help out America's farmers, AND Willie Nelson! What a great deal. Now for a GREASECAR, you need a secondary fuel system. Perhaps that's where your confusion lies.
jon
|
|
|
|
|
gunksgoer
Feb 3, 2005, 10:07 PM
Post #117 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 27, 2004
Posts: 1290
|
i think quietmonk needs to suck it up and post that pic.
|
|
|
|
|
bubba
Feb 3, 2005, 10:40 PM
Post #118 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 17, 2002
Posts: 284
|
In reply to: ....I've taken 30+ foot whippers on cams that I made myself, ....
:shock:
|
|
|
|
|
greenmachineman7
Feb 3, 2005, 10:55 PM
Post #119 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 29, 2004
Posts: 108
|
To you guys who've worked for CCH:
Any chance you can get me a job there? I sure wouldn't mind a hefty discount!
|
|
|
|
|
jimfix
Feb 3, 2005, 11:03 PM
Post #120 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 18, 2004
Posts: 314
|
Climbing is dangerous....
|
|
|
|
|
elvislegs
Feb 3, 2005, 11:38 PM
Post #121 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 24, 2002
Posts: 3148
|
i think it's about time this whole damn thread took loooooonngggg 12 footer onto a badly placed micro cam.
|
|
|
|
|
stymingersfink
Feb 4, 2005, 12:05 AM
Post #122 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 12, 2003
Posts: 7250
|
In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: I tend to regard a 12 foot fall as a rather long fall. If you regard that as a short fall, make sure you have a good life insurance policy. cheers, rob.calm Not to derail this, but are you serious? You must be one of the most cautious of the cautious climbers Rob You're damn right! When the gear gets below my navel, I'm looking for the next piece to insert. rob.calm
must be an aid climber.
|
|
|
|
|
johnhennings
Feb 4, 2005, 4:11 AM
Post #123 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jan 30, 2005
Posts: 62
|
As a two year emplyee of CCH I was a little concerned by the title of this thread. We are a hard work group of individuals that take pride in making some of the best performing, innovative and SAFEST cams on the market. I won't deny that it is possible for one in a million pieces of pro to fail. Climbing is a dangerous sport with inherit risks.
If quietmonk is making a ligitimate claim, I urge him/her to us a call at (307)721-9385 and give us the full details of what happened.
I took whippers on cams that I and my fellow employees have made, and trust my aliens more than any other piece out there.
Quietmonk, we can't help you if you just post and run. Do yourself a favor and call us.-John
|
|
|
|
|
epic_ed
Feb 4, 2005, 5:09 AM
Post #124 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 17, 2002
Posts: 4724
|
John -- thanks for posting. Fortunately most of us are aware of how to handle a customer complaint issue without trying to drag the name of a good company through the mud. And then you have other tools...
Quitemonk, please sit down, have a nice cup of shut-the-fuck-up and contact CCH directly about this matter. My offer stands to any of you weenies who have a phobia of CCH cams -- I'll trade you one of my rarely used BD micros for any Alien. Any takers?
Ed
|
|
|
|
|
blondgecko
Moderator
Feb 4, 2005, 5:23 AM
Post #125 of 211
(39530 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 2, 2004
Posts: 7666
|
T4, just for the number of views.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Re: CCH aliens are dangerous!
[
