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darkstar
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I was wondering how being able to do so many pull ups translates to climbing on real rock. What are you guys redpointing and onsighting ? power routes or endurance ? I dont train pull ups at all and climb 13b but im thinking of getting down to biz and training alittle you guys really inspire me . I really want to onsight 8a's in spain have managed only 2 so far maybe some pull up training would help . So how are you super humans pull up machines climbing ? dark
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tommez
Jan 2, 2006, 9:36 AM
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In reply to: I was wondering how being able to do so many pull ups translates to climbing on real rock. What are you guys redpointing and onsighting ? power routes or endurance ? I dont train pull ups at all and climb 13b but im thinking of getting down to biz and training alittle you guys really inspire me . I really want to onsight 8a's in spain have managed only 2 so far maybe some pull up training would help . So how are you super humans pull up machines climbing ? dark
:lol:
Ironic, are we?
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coldclimb
Jan 2, 2006, 10:55 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Going on year 32 of climbing I'd caution folks to not "use up" your shoulders unnecessarily if you intend to keep climbing as you age. At some point it does simply become a matter of mileage... Good advice. Going on 69, I have arthritic shoulders, making it unpleasant and almost impossible to reach straight up. Don't overdo it, young'uns! 8^)
I've wondered about the injury potential myself. Every once in a while the urge strikes me to work pullups, but after two or three days of doing so, not to my limit but just pumping out ten when I wander by my pullup bar, I get a bit of pain in my elbows. Not wanting to injure myself, I'm always forced to give it a rest for a week or two until the pain stops coming back when I stress my arms. Is there something I'm doing wrong that those of you who know more are doing right, or is that something you simply work through over time? It does seem that when I fully extend, it pops things and hurts a lot more and a lot faster, so I try to lock off before I get too close to the bottom, but even then after a few days of that, it still happens.
I'll admit I haven't done much research on the subject, so if someone can point me in the right direction I'll do the rest, and thanks! ;)
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graniteavenger
Jan 15, 2006, 1:16 AM
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Have you cut your legs off to give yourself a weight advantage? You should probably be able to cut 35lbs, so that could be an increase of, say, 30 pull ups. Remember, light is right. Don't worry about not having feet anymore, I'm sure your shoulders and arms are developed enough to propel yourself around with gorilla stylee. :lol:
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hasbeen
Feb 9, 2006, 12:30 AM
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update:
Reading stories of Roger Bannister and John Landy hasn't improved my mile times much (they were the first to break the sub-4 minute mile barrier), but I feel like the inspired John Landy of pull ups right now.
A new personal best this morning:
675 pull ups in 60 minutes.
I felt damn good throughout and was able to keep good form for the most part. I've realized that you can't let up on your concentration throughout the enitre 60 minutes. It's strange. You expect the workouts to get easier as time goes on in your training, but they don't (just the other day a 30 min workout with 12 per minute felt impossible). Today, minutes 11-25 felt the worst and hardest. By minutes 40-60 you're just hoping your arms don't suddenly give out which has happened to me before (virtually with no warning).
Breakdown of sets:
Minutes 1-50 = 11 pull ups/min (5 and 6 every 30 secs)
Minutes 51-55 = 12 pull ups/min (6 and 6 every 30 secs)
Minutes 56-60 = 13 pull ups/min (6 and 7 every 30 secs)
The 700 pull up barrier is well in range.
Mei Fei Pao
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"Soyons realistes, demandons l'impossible!"
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ajkclay
Feb 9, 2006, 4:33 AM
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5km in 16 min?
I don't run, think it blows, but my son does 5km in 14:30.
He can't hangboard like me though *snigger*
Adam
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theonlynebraskaclimber
Feb 9, 2006, 4:46 AM
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When i was in my last year of elementary school i ran a mile in 7:30 seconds, and it was the fastest in my grade. So under 4 min. I don't think so. 6 min. a mile i would believe you. under 4? I don't think so. My high school track team cant run a sub 4 min mile if they tryed.
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cchas
Feb 9, 2006, 2:03 PM
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If a kid that age ran a sub-4 mile those of us that run would have heard about it in the running rags. sooo nawwwww, he's out of there. A decent time for a high school kid would be 16 minutes (the team I was on was third in the state when I was a kid and our top 7 runners all ran 16 min (+/- 10 sec) for 5K, actually we had 10 runners on our team that could do that. A really talented high school runner will do it in 15min, and a decent college runner will do it in 14:30.... Nothing to do with climbing or pull ups but just a point of reference for the BSer posting above.
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dhaulagiri
Feb 9, 2006, 7:54 PM
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Nice to hear from/about Todd, Boulders hasn't been the same without him. Sick that he is back on his pull up bender again...gl
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ajkclay
Feb 10, 2006, 8:39 AM
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In reply to: If a kid that age ran a sub-4 mile those of us that run would have heard about it in the running rags. sooo nawwwww, he's out of there. A decent time for a high school kid would be 16 minutes (the team I was on was third in the state when I was a kid and our top 7 runners all ran 16 min (+/- 10 sec) for 5K, actually we had 10 runners on our team that could do that. A really talented high school runner will do it in 15min, and a decent college runner will do it in 14:30.... Nothing to do with climbing or pull ups but just a point of reference for the BSer posting above.
Well, Mr Expert, why the hell do you think what a 17 year old kid living in a town you've never heard of in a country that's not America would be known in the US?
Piss off with your calls of BS! FYI he had never competed in any athletic meets nor had an official time. All he has ever done is what he loves: Train for Australian Rules Football. It was not until the State High School Sports meet when he just turned up and won everything including the Steeple chase (even though he ran the first lap behind the others so he knew what to do for the rest of the race and still won by more than half a lap) that anyone noticed him. He was immediately picked up for the State Team but has quit because football season has started again.
He plays in the Division 1 men's team and in current pre-season 15 minute time trials he is lapping the adult coming second.
So shut up unless you know the abilities of every single child athlete in the world, JERK
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sidepull
Jul 20, 2006, 2:01 AM
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so - new record coming or what?
BUMP
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collegekid
Jul 20, 2006, 2:34 AM
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Hasbeen, can you do a one-arm?
Just curious--It seems like if you can do that many pullups, you should be able to do a one-armer.
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kane_schutzman
Jul 20, 2006, 3:43 AM
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Man, you are my Idle.....What do you do to train for doing so many in a row? Do you do pullups to train for pullups? Do you weight them down? Let me know.....Thanks
I love seeing how many I can do because its easy to regulate and now I am getting better.
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crazyscuba
Jul 20, 2006, 5:19 AM
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from what i heard todd broke the record and ended up getting 707 in an hour. ridiculous. if i remember right, todd used to do three one arm two finger pullups and lockoff after each one and drink a beer. thats just how we train in wisconsin.
steve
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paulbehee
Jul 20, 2006, 5:38 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: sounds like them beer shots things we do all the time It's called Power Hour; one shot of beer/minute for 60 minutes.
Try THE CENTURY Club! shot/minute for 100 minutes.
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collegekid
Jul 22, 2006, 4:38 AM
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In reply to: from what i heard todd broke the record and ended up getting 707 in an hour. ridiculous. if i remember right, todd used to do three one arm two finger pullups and lockoff after each one and drink a beer. thats just how we train in wisconsin. steve
He could drink 3 beers in a row? HOLY CRAP!!!
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crazyscuba
Jul 22, 2006, 5:00 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: from what i heard todd broke the record and ended up getting 707 in an hour. ridiculous. if i remember right, todd used to do three one arm two finger pullups and lockoff after each one and drink a beer. thats just how we train in wisconsin. steve He could drink 3 beers in a row? HOLY CRAP!!!
how bout you sack up and do it when you're locked off on a one arm, two finger pullup. chump.
http://www.birthdaychallenge.com/toddmei/index.html
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cjsimpso
Jul 22, 2006, 5:10 AM
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Reading this thread has made me wonder if the quality of posts have been steadily going downhill over time, or if this is simply a classic example of thread decay from a lack of brushing.
Either way, all of these feats are unbelievable to me. I'm working on 20 consecutive, and I was feeling good that I was getting close. Of course, we're all at different stages at different times, but 700 in an hour - holy balls.
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crazyscuba
Jul 22, 2006, 5:12 AM
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yeah, the 700 in an hour is just incredible once you think about it a little bit. just amazing.
steve
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collegekid
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: from what i heard todd broke the record and ended up getting 707 in an hour. ridiculous. if i remember right, todd used to do three one arm two finger pullups and lockoff after each one and drink a beer. thats just how we train in wisconsin. steve He could drink 3 beers in a row? HOLY CRAP!!! how bout you sack up and do it when you're locked off on a one arm, two finger pullup. chump. http://www.birthdaychallenge.com/toddmei/index.html
I was joking. No reason to get all butt-hurt.
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paulraphael
Jul 24, 2006, 9:17 PM
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http://gravsports.com/Climbing%20Stories/climbing.htm
We used to train at the same gym in college. I could swear I've seen him do 600 pullups as a warmup.
Interesting how he ends up disavowing the whole pullup thing.
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billcoe_
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I can do 3. But these folks.....
http://www.recordholders.org/en/list/chinups.html
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Guy Schott (USA)
22 Oct 2005
at the Airport Club in Santa Rosa
pull-ups
670
Stephen Hyland (GBR) 21 Dec 2005
in Stoneleigh, Surrey chin-ups
701
Stephen Hyland (GBR) 19 Jan 2006
in Stoneleigh, Surrey chin-ups
767 Stephen Hyland (GBR) 7 Jan 2007
in Stoneleigh, Surrey chin-ups
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Stephen Hyland (GBR) 18 Oct 2007
in Stoneleigh, Surrey chin-ups
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Jan 5, 2008, 9:58 PM
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All I can say is wow. I thought I could crank push-ups and pull-ups out at one point in my health craze stage but ....man that is a lot!
Now, maybe 40 pull-ups to full enxtension and 100 push-ups at the rate of a full second a piece.
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Jan 5, 2008, 10:33 PM
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[quote "paulraphael"]http://gravsports.com/Climbing%20Stories/climbing.htm
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It is true climbing strength will develop if you climb more. But if you train intelligently (this includes avoiding injury) you'll get stronger much faster. Pull-up strength has nothing to do with climbing (relatively), it's all about finger strength. He trained his lats, biceps, etc. instead of his forearms. Climbing strength (not strength) is very important to climbing. Strength is bad for climbing, it just adds weights.
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