Not when you're climbing routes that are 100+ ft.
It's DIFFERENT than climbing outside, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's EASIER.
If you're talking about gyms that have 30ft routes, then I'd probably agree with you, but the routes at my gym go to 121 ft. Try climbing a couple of those in an enclosed silo in the Texas heat - then come tell me how "easy" it is. Unless you've been there and climbed the routes that we have set up, you're making an ignorant assumption.

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Profound question of the month:
. . . and profound answer:

JL

My fall wasn't quite as serious as any of these others, however I made one really stupid mistake, which I'm sure that no one else would do.
Anyway, I was climbing with my sister, and she wasn't very experienced at belaying. As I had finished the wall I communicated with her that I was descending. She agreed, but the rope slipped and I fell a good 30 ft or more I caught the rope flipped , but managed to turn right side up. My sister did manage to catch the rope (she sacrificed her hands; its good thing she loves me) and I came to a stop 2ft before hitting the ground major whip lash and bruising.

***Moral don't ever let your sister belay you ha ha; no but seriously that was a really stupid mistake on my part.

Hey, I stand by my statement! It's hot as hell in those damn silos....100+ temps....no ventilation...scorching lights on the ceilings to keep the place lit up (what a nice way to greet the anchor at the top!)...DEFINITELY no a/c.

At least outside you have a breeze and fresh air!

I stand by my statement. Gym climbing is climbing lite.

But dirt, the gym has no A/CEEEEEEEEEEEE! Hardmen and Hardwomen only! How do they do it?

YOU know, you're a hot looking chick, and because of that, on this site you can get away with a lot, but you are really pushing it here sis.

Let me remind you that in real rock climbing, that is, climbing on real rock in the great outdoors, you may have to contend with falling rock, loose rock, dirt, vegetation in the very place you need to put gear or your hand, route finding, sudddenly uncooperative weather, insects, animals, SNAKES, a lack of gear placements, and a pile of other stuff that you can't see from the ground when you start. In addition, you may be way out in the middle of nowhere, with no other people for miles. If you screw up, you and your partner are on your own. As for the grade and the routes, nobody sets them up, you get what you find. Maybe it is over your head, maybe not, but you don't know til you get there. FYI, when you go outside, you can climb routes anywhere from 40 to 1000 feet! OR MORE! YES!

I stand by my statement. Gym climbing is climbing lite.

I'm very aware of the differences in outdoor/indoor climbing.

...but once you get on the wall, the movements are pretty similar.

I'm very aware of the differences in outdoor/indoor climbing. I was actually climbing outdoors this past weekend.

Now I'll quit hijacking this thread and let you all get back to your flaming...

I am flying w// my gear and plan to check my stuff, including chalk.

Anyone have any info on whether or not the white dust might be construed as anthrax? I am putting it w/ my shoes and a 'biner so maybe they will figure it out. I think labeling it will arouse suspicion... Any ideas?

Ladies, we have a BREEDER.

Assuming someone took in 20 grams of protein per day. and got all essential vitamins for a day what would happen from a physiological standpoint to the body if someone stopped eating

Ahhhhhhh... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I was trying to remember that kid's username this morning, but couldn't think of it. Thanks, edge. Classic stuff.

. . . what would happen from a physiological standpoint to the body if someone stopped eating

from today:

Imagine your refridgerator was in your driveway. Now imagine you want to stand on top of it.

I have climbed in yosemite many times and have never made the effort to get all the way out to snake dike...I probably wouldn't have considered it until I set up a trip for me and my non climber girlfriend....I know it is very easy..like 5.7...but how easy is easy.

She has never climbed. So my question is...can a non-climber get through this with help from an experienced climber. I think absolutely, but I would like to hear some opinions on whether or not it is likely for her to be able to get through it without having me literaly haul her through sections...

I just want to know if it is as easy as I think it is. thanks.

Trip is to Owens River Gorge, medium to slightly difficult sport. This is the full gear list, basically everything we will have by the time we leave. Is there anything else we'll need? The list:

- Harnesses
- Shoes
- Chalk and Chalk bags
- 60 meter rope
- (2) belay devices with pear locking biners
- 12-15 quickdraws
- (2) 4 foot lengths of 1" tubular webbing (misc rigging + cleaning)
- (2) 6 foot lengths of 1" tubular webbing (misc anchoring for top roping, if needed)
- (4) 8 foot lengths of 1" tubular webbing (long anchors)
- (4) 36" runners
- (2-4) screw gates (JUST IN CASE)
- (6) Locking Biners for anchoring/rigging
- Ropebag (?)
- Crashpad (for bouldering at Happys, Buttermilks, etc.)

One question on the ropebag. Does these have fold out tarp type things for laying slack rope on? I've heard getting grit in your rope is bad for your gear, so I wanna try to keep the rope off the bare dirt.

Excuse me if this list makes me seem slightly paranoid, but better safe than sorry. Basically this will be for 3 climbers. I figure this should be ample for the well developed Owens River George, as well as other sport areas.

Gear experts, give your opinions

Why the second rope? We're not doing any multi-pitch, just single pitch sport.