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majid_sabet
Sep 30, 2008, 6:43 PM
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chossmonkey wrote: majid_sabet wrote: curt wrote: derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing... not til u kan reed and rite. Curt respect my bro or else That sounds like a threat of violence!! DDT PMed
you remember that soung
" you seen nothing yet"
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Feller
Sep 30, 2008, 6:46 PM
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agreed. there's no harm in taking the class. if anything, you'll learn from it what you do need to work on. try lead climbing in a safe enviornment with trained people watching and helping. Then you'll know what to train for and what you need work on. and who knows, maybe you'll try lead climbing out and realize you are a natural at it. The only way to find out is to do it, and what better way than a supervised class?
go nuts dude, and climb on.
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shimanilami
Sep 30, 2008, 7:54 PM
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derk424 wrote: i just don't understand why some of you guys are so harsh on these threads. You turn off so many people to a sport thats really awesome and allows you to push your self to the limit in alot of aspects. and then you complain when people mess up your routes or annoy you when your out climbing, thats exactly why i asked the question ...
Our initiation ceremony is simple enough. The NOOB says, "I have a stupid question, but here it goes ...". We respond with some brand of, "Shut the fuck up, NOOB. And learn how to write in English."
Several cycles may be necessary, but you'll know that you've arrived when JT512 chimes in to tell you that you are an idiot, and that he climbs 5.12 in his slippers.
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derk424
Sep 30, 2008, 8:15 PM
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i guess ill just keep working harder so i can get owned by jt512 lol.
ill let you guys know how the course goes im gonna take it when i climb 5.10s comfortably.
late
noob trying to learn more lol
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olderic
Sep 30, 2008, 8:16 PM
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Better that it is pointed out that his communication style (mad skilz) causes him to be perceived as a retard in this environment as opposed to...oh I don't know...maybe when he tries to get a job.
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derk424
Sep 30, 2008, 8:21 PM
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dude its a forum not a job application or a dissertation for that matter, so pardon me for not being as eloquent as some of the great writers of the time.
just responding in between class
kkthxby horibad riting ftl
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drector
Sep 30, 2008, 8:26 PM
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derk424 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: curt wrote: derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing... not til u kan reed and rite. Curt respect my bro or else i just don't understand why some of you guys are so harsh on these threads. You turn off so many people to a sport thats really awesome and allows you to push your self to the limit in alot of aspects. and then you complain when people mess up your routes or annoy you when your out climbing, thats exactly why i asked the question here so i can be more knowledgeable out there, mind you i dont expect to learn everything from reading the core is just experience but all help is greatly appreciated. thanks for ur time
People are harsh because reading shit like that from illiterates is very painful. Painful to read and painful because it shows that there are way too many people who don't take their own words seriously enough to use all of the letters in them. Why the hell would anyone want to help you when you can't take a little extra time to learn to write and then make it easy for us to read what you have to say.
In other words, I didn't finish reading your post because it sucked and I did not understand any of it. What was your question?
Dave
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blueeyedclimber
Sep 30, 2008, 10:34 PM
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granite_grrl wrote: I'm a little dubious about how much you learn from a lead course in a gym, but it probobly wouldn't hurt.
That depends on your teacher. It's like going into REI to get some gear. You MIGHT get someone who has been climbing for 30 years OR you might get someone who just read a pamphlet out back that told him what a belay device is used for.
If gyms are smart (some are), however, they will choose wisely who they use to teach lead courses.
Josh
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peg_leg1
Sep 30, 2008, 11:51 PM
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Some people learn to climb on lead. I did this before there was a gym craze.
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moss1956
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Derk,
If you have friends that climb outdoors, who lead, and seem like
trustworthy people, a few trips with them will be worth quite a lot.
If you aren't shy of money, the class in the gym would be good too.
You aren't going to learn how to lead climb from one 3 hour class,
or one trip to the crag. It will just start the process.
Moss
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brownie710
Oct 1, 2008, 12:26 AM
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if you have doubts then i would say your not ready, that's referring to outside climbing. dont' picture it according to how much you can lead, picture whether or not you will feel capable if something goes wrong and your 70' off the deck.stay safe
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mtnrock
Oct 1, 2008, 12:39 AM
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go for it, its more about your guts then your ability to climb. also make sure you have climbed out doors before too
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bradley3297
Oct 1, 2008, 1:56 AM
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ive come to the conclusion that curt is a douchebag oops I might get grounded...
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Senate156
Oct 1, 2008, 2:14 AM
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like others have said...if your gym has even just a couple routes in the 5.9 and lower range that you can practice/learn on and there's a crag nearby then by all means go for it.
For me I have just had this desire to lead since my very first exposure to climbing (field trip when i was like 12). I don't know what it is...but I am so driven to leading.
If you want to take the time to work on technique I HIGHLY suggest the book "The Self-Coached Climber". I just sent my first 5.11d (I'll admit it was on top-rope, but i started all over again with every fall) yesterday and I've only been climbing for 3.5 months (not including that one field trip) and I owe a lot of that to the drills and theories presented in that invaluable book.
Bouldering helps you project/read routes much better, but I think doing laps would be more beneficial for you if you want to train the most efficiently for leading. The reason being that circuits get you used to working with a pump and dramatically increase your endurance over time. If you struggle at 5.10 as it is, leading it is going to be intense...just think of pausing taking slack and clipping all while having just 3 points on the wall....it's a huge change and one that, at first, will leaving you feeling pumped out and overwhelmed.
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derk424
Oct 1, 2008, 5:52 AM
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Ok first off I will be more concious of my writing style so that I don't offend anybody.
Second, I live in miami and at the moment cannot afford to take a trip out to climb outdoors, so my exposure to climbing is limited to just the gym.
Senate thanks for the book recommendadtion i had orderedb it about a week ago via amazon so it should be coming in very soon.
O and dave the original question was how do I know if I am ready to lead climb(indoors)? Currently I can climb 5.9s with ease and am sturggling on 5.10s mostly due to technique and lack of finger strength, but im sure those will get better with time. Side note- most of the lead routes are 5.10s, however there are some 5.9s.
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superbumbly
Oct 1, 2008, 11:35 AM
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Much to passive and sensible, i suggest you two settle your differences with #10 Hexes. If you are going to hijack the thread, at least keep it entertaining.
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bradley3297
Oct 1, 2008, 1:40 PM
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if leading 11s after one season of climbing is grounded then i guess so lol.
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derk424
Oct 1, 2008, 6:46 PM
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bradley3297 wrote: if leading 11s after one season of climbing is grounded then i guess so lol.
Im sorry im rather new to this but what exactly do you mean by "grounded"?
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curt
Oct 1, 2008, 10:28 PM
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bradley3297 wrote: if leading 11s after one season of climbing is grounded then i guess so lol.
Hangdogging doesn't count, weakmo.
Curt
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Oct 1, 2008, 11:40 PM
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brownie710 wrote: if you have doubts then i would say your not ready, that's referring to outside climbing leading trad routes. dont' picture it according to how much you can lead, picture whether or not you will feel capable if something goes wrong and your 70' off the deck.stay safe
Fixed that for you, brownie 
Nothing wrong with him/her going climbing outside, but maybe staying off the sharp end is the prudent decision.
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mtnrock
Oct 2, 2008, 1:01 AM
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well if its an lead indoor lesson to do sport you don't need to go out doors but why would you take an out door course if you didn't get to use any of the information
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bradley3297
Oct 2, 2008, 2:14 AM
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your hilarious with all your short lame sport route ascents and boulder problems. get on some hard trad ya sissy.
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hangingbelay
Oct 2, 2008, 3:34 AM
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Hey Derk I would suggest an outdoor climbing school. Yosemite..Joushua tree are two and I know they are more. Indoor is good, the rating might fool you. Smooth granite smear or on a quartz knob, runout and so forth is much different. Take the class indoors....find one outdoors, learn anchoring..and feel comfortable. John Long books are good. Good luck with you adventure and don't let anyone talk you into anything that you know you are not ready for. |
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