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bigfatrock


Oct 3, 2008, 12:56 PM
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derk424 wrote:
when are u rdy to start lead climbing, the gym i currently attend offers a course to teach all the ins and out about the technical stuff/safety procedure but im not sure if im ready. Atm im climbing 5.9s easily and struggle on the 5.10s. The only thing is that the course is only offered once a month so wanted to get some experienced climbers' opinions before i take the plunge lol

thanks guys

Since I feel like wasting time this morning and want to hear myself type - it's quite in the office this morning, I will respond....

Take the class, go for it. I started leading before I was confident on 5.8. I took the class "thinking" I could lead a 5.9 even though I never had, I had only been back into climbing after years off for a few weeks.

I learned quick and was leading and climbing outdoors the next week. I stayed at my grade 5.7 and occasionally got on a 5.8 but stayed away from the 5.9's at first.

In my opinion it is never to early as long as you stay in your comfort zone. Many will tell you, don't lead until you can climb 5.9. Many gyms have this rule which is more likely for liability reasons.

So go for it man, take the class, have fun and open yourself up to a whole new world of climbing. Before you know it you will be on the sharp end placing your own gear too.

When I started climbing I had told myself I would never sport climb, then I realized all the crags didn't have top rope access so I had to learn it. Then I said I would never trad climb, then I realized that all the good climbing was trad. :) Your dirtbag life is just beginning my friend. Climb on.


bradley3297


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first off. i climb for myself. i really dont care how good you or curt are. all your bullshit respect talk means nothing to me. I respect new people who need advice on climbing. I have my own personal goals and if i get to a high level in climbing great. if not oh well.


raymondjeffrey


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Curt called that dude 'fruit sorbet'. That's so funny.


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I would say there is no defining "moment" that makes you ready to lead climb. If you climb 5.9 just fine are you cool with leading 5.6? If so then go for it. Leading is a whole new adventure and I think it changes the world of climbing for you.

I learned to climb outdoors and started lead climbing after 3 months. I quickly started leading at my limit and started falling (sport climbing). 9 months after I started climbing I was trad leading.

Other people I know started trad leading within a month or two of learning to climb. I also know a guy who does 5.12/5.13 on TR but he doesn't lead... anything at all...

Just be safe about it and take it slow. Realize that you can downclimb, that just because you start leading doesn't mean you always have to lead.


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bradley3297 wrote:
first off. i climb for myself. i really dont care how good you or curt are. all your bullshit respect talk means nothing to me.

You're no different from hundreds of other untalented and loudmouth fucktards who come here to RC.com, take a huge stinking crap in our nice little back yard and then leave.

bradley3297 wrote:
I respect new people who need advice on climbing.

Hopefully, for their sake, they'll never take any advice from you.

bradley3297 wrote:
I have my own personal goals and if i get to a high level in climbing great. if not oh well.

Well, if you keep setting the bar low enough, I'm confident you can reach those goals. You may even advance from fully incompetent to numbingly mediocre.

Curt


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im done arguing with you. youre just a egotistical ahole with a god complex. later.


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bradley3297 wrote:
im done arguing with you. youre just a egotistical ahole with a god complex. later.

We were never arguing--I was simply explaining things to you.

Curt


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bradley3297 wrote:
im done arguing with you.

First smart thing you've said.


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stock exchange. investment banking. semiconductor materials lab. you are a yuppie climber as i thought. Wink explains alot. ima stay here in squamish and hang with my dirtbags. Wink


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stock exchange. investment banking. semiconductor materials lab. you are a yuppie climber as i thought. Wink explains alot. ima stay here in squamish and hang with my dirtbags. Wink

Why am I somehow not surprised that you find success a foreign concept?

Curt


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success is fine. yet it seems to have gone to your head. its ok though seems to be a genetic defect of successful americans Wink.


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Pffft...your country is nothing more than 33 million people crammed as close to the American border as sanitation will permit.

Curt


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and your country is 250 million people crammed along the ocean going way beyond the bounds of sanitation....


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bradley3297 wrote:
and your country is 250 million people crammed along the ocean going way beyond the bounds of sanitation....

So, you can't count either. Is there anything you don't suck at?

Curt


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ew 51 139 947 million people to add to your sanitation issues since i last checked. Wink


shockabuku


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bradley3297 wrote:
im done arguing with you. youre just a egotistical ahole with a god complex. later.

Make up your mind.


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ya i know. but this is just too much fun.


looserock


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Hey fellow noobs, let's search threads and find out where curt climbs and rap down right next to him and bird dog the shit out of him while he's leading.

Wait a minute . . . . 12,964 post count , . . . . forget it, he spends most of his time climbing the key board.


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dingus


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You'd look damned funny rapping down next to curt to make fun of him.

I don't think it would work.

You know what I like and admire about curt?

The man knows what he's talking about AND he's spare with words - a rare gift.

Like he gut ole bradley up there with one fell sentence - BOOM! Like an executioner.

It wasn't pretty. But its usually funny!

Ka CHA! (sound of the singing blade)

DMT


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dingus wrote:
You'd look damned funny rapping down next to curt to make fun of him.
Yeah... Who raps off a boulder? Threat FAIL.

dingus wrote:
It wasn't pretty. But its usually funny!
This is true.
I don't think Curt will argue with the fact he's a little big-headed, though. but why not, right?


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Big headed? I hadn't noticed.

DMT


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dingus wrote:
Big headed? I hadn't noticed.

DMT

Maybe big-headed is the wrong word, and it's mostly joking but the comments like "success is foreign to you" kinda require someone to see themselves above the other person to use, know what I mean.
Not that I'm saying he's not above the other dude (sorry noobie guy), but he doesn't seem to mind saying it. Wink
Niether would I- but how could I? I live with my parents, and I don't even have a bedroom. Or a bed. (Alpkit fatairic for the win!).


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E's not 'uman mate. That's the rub. Elvish I suspect but quien sabe????? I bet he walks ON the snow, nawmean?

Nevertheless, noobs need to know, curt is one of the 'playahs' in this sport. Give the man his due - he was cranking hard way before these children were born - literally, and will still wipe the floor with their asses.

I do appreciate one curt theme though - that old school blunt frankness about *actual* climbing ability - blunt and unforgiving, just like gravity.

DMT


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dingus wrote:
You'd look damned funny rapping down next to curt to make fun of him.

wouldn't be making fun of him, I'm sure his climbing is stellar; his flaming made prompted me to jest about being a tourin/noob from hell and fuckin with him Laugh

irl I'd watch from a distance and be polite


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dingus wrote:
E's not 'uman mate. That's the rub. Elvish I suspect but quien sabe????? I bet he walks ON the snow, nawmean?
LaughLaugh

dingus wrote:
Nevertheless, noobs need to know, curt is one of the 'playahs' in this sport. Give the man his due - he was cranking hard way before these children were born - literally, and will still wipe the floor with their asses.
This is what I meant by "and why not?" like- if anyone should be upity it should be someone who is most certainly "up", right?
dingus wrote:
I do appreciate one curt theme though - that old school blunt frankness about *actual* climbing ability - blunt and unforgiving, just like gravity
Maybe he has to do it like gravity to make up for the lack of gravity he seems to experiance?
I gots no beef with Curt, but I could see why some people would find it a little off putting to get crushed on their first few posts. rc.com's version of survival of the fittest? survival of the stubbornist?

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