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Bats
Dec 10, 2009, 1:21 PM
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Ah Hem! We do wear shorts in Texas in August when the temperature is 100F. Just don't fall thats all...
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dugl33
Dec 10, 2009, 10:24 PM
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Good pics and write up.
Perhaps the first pic was what the artist was going for. Notice, though, the down palming going on here. Also, scanning for footholds with head close to the plane of the rock.
Second pic, heels dropped, legs bent, something small for the hands. COG over feet.
Third pic, basic stance with heels dropped, and straight arm keeping climber reasonably vertical.
In no pic is the climber stretched out so as to be parallel to the plane of the slab, which is the slab climbers kiss of death.
And in no pic does the climber have his ass sticking out with straight legs at the same time. The sketch is lame. Point of fact and QED.
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adatesman
Dec 10, 2009, 10:35 PM
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silascl
Dec 10, 2009, 10:47 PM
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adatesman wrote: jaablink wrote: CP is just a troll who wants attention…Why wasn't this quoted yet? Best explanation I've seen so far...
Only on RC.com is asking a question about slab technique considered trolling...
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adatesman
Dec 10, 2009, 10:58 PM
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dugl33
Dec 10, 2009, 11:27 PM
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adatesman wrote: silascl wrote: adatesman wrote: jaablink wrote: CP is just a troll who wants attention…Why wasn't this quoted yet? Best explanation I've seen so far... Only on RC.com is asking a question about slab technique considered trolling... Obviously you've missed his other threads.... 
Not sure about the other threads, but the sketch in the original OP is indeed lame.
You folks calling troll ever climb a real slab? Try locking your legs out straight, feet dead flat on the rock, holding on to who knows what. Rotate the sketch a bit and its not as bad. Climber less jack-knifed, not as bad. One leg straight, the other bent, not as bad. One arm straight down below the waist, not as bad.
COG straight over feet, sure, butt out, sure -- but not like the sketch. The only way to get close to the sketch on a real slab is while down palming, and in that case your legs won't be locked straight.
I'm calling Not-Troll. Not this time. The sketch just smells a bit funny, like old chicken or some funk ceviche. Sure, you might give it a go, but you'll regret it.
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silascl
Dec 10, 2009, 11:33 PM
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adatesman wrote: silascl wrote: adatesman wrote: jaablink wrote: CP is just a troll who wants attention…Why wasn't this quoted yet? Best explanation I've seen so far... Only on RC.com is asking a question about slab technique considered trolling... Obviously you've missed his other threads....
Which ones? I've seen the free solo one, but must have missed the trolls.
I just think it's too bad when reasonable threads go to shit because people want to jump all over the fresh meat. See this one for a better example:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2249320
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adatesman
Dec 10, 2009, 11:50 PM
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CrazyPetie
Dec 11, 2009, 12:02 AM
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adatesman wrote: silascl wrote: Which ones? I've seen the free solo one, but must have missed the trolls. I just think it's too bad when reasonable threads go to shit because people want to jump all over the fresh meat. See this one for a better example: http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2249320 I'll grant that this one is tame in comparison to the others, but I think Jaablink is correct in calling CP out as a troll. If you read the OP there's a hint of troll with the CrazyPetie wrote: Please enlighten me, i know you will. . It's subtle but present, and his responses since then have been quite trollish. Then there's the freesolo clusterfuck thread, the DIY pink anodized grigri thread, various trolling posts in other threads... But let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's not a troll. In that case he's either deranged and/or an idiot, so perhaps it's kinder to simply label him a troll.
Wow you are a huge nerd! I pointed out a picture that was incorrect slab technique, in an article that is supposed to be teaching you slab technique. Yep i'm an idiot and a troll.
I said "please enlighten me, i know you will", because i know geek balls like yourself are sure to say something stupid. OooOo your a mod, your cool.
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dugl33
Dec 11, 2009, 12:12 AM
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Pink GriGris aside, "you were stupid in the past, ergo stupid now" is a weak argument. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. On its own merits, viewed in isolation, I say the thread is ok, perhaps even a little redeeming.
Viewing the sketch, assuming COG just above the hips for a dude, draw an imaginary line straight down, and you will find it well behind the feet. Nowhere near over the feet, where it should be.
It was probably uploaded by mistake from the "dropping a deuce" image file.
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jaablink
Dec 11, 2009, 1:03 AM
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First, you don’t know shit about climbing , you may think you do, but....… last time you spouted your mouth off to me, I invited you up to the Gunks to join our group and see if you had a set or if you were all talk. Imagine my surprise and disappointment when you did not show…We probably would have picked on you and gotten a laugh or two at your expense, but we would have made it up to you with some beer back at the cabin…
In your last post , that mouth and adolescent attitude got your family dragged into it. In the end the bigger man removed the photo, and you were lucky if you ask me… you just don’t know when to stfu…. I am certain that big mouth had a lot to do with your arrest as well. It will no doubt be the cause of future closures and access issues in your area too. you still have not learned any lessons.
You are obviously a much more advanced climber than the rest of us to be able to find errors in others climbing technique. Sorry I doubted you oh mighty slab master.
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rocknice2
Dec 11, 2009, 1:07 AM
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What slab?
He's got a 4 finger pocket on right and a haand crack with the left.
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jaablink
Dec 11, 2009, 1:23 AM
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No , you are right. I have never climbed a slab…
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CrazyPetie
Dec 11, 2009, 4:30 AM
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jaablink wrote: First, you don’t know shit about climbing , you may think you do, but....… last time you spouted your mouth off to me, I invited you up to the Gunks to join our group and see if you had a set or if you were all talk. Imagine my surprise and disappointment when you did not show…We probably would have picked on you and gotten a laugh or two at your expense, but we would have made it up to you with some beer back at the cabin… In your last post , that mouth and adolescent attitude got your family dragged into it. In the end the bigger man removed the photo, and you were lucky if you ask me… you just don’t know when to stfu…. I am certain that big mouth had a lot to do with your arrest as well. It will no doubt be the cause of future closures and access issues in your area too. you still have not learned any lessons. You are obviously a much more advanced climber than the rest of us to be able to find errors in others climbing technique. Sorry I doubted you oh mighty slab master.
I'm not gonna drive 12 hours just to meet up with some retarded foreigner talking shit on the internet... I'm so sorry i couldn't join you...
Oh the "bigger" man removed the photo only after like ten people told him he was a fucking douche bag, i dont think that makes him the bigger man...
I'm sorry i asked a legitimite question about slab technique, and i asked for your almighty input to see if I was remotely correct... Obviously i was, so you stfu.
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Dec 11, 2009, 8:16 AM
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Dugl33.
Good post with those photos and technique descriptions. Very helpful, for me anyway.
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jaablink
Dec 11, 2009, 3:41 PM
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CrazyPetie wrote: jaablink wrote: First, you don’t know shit about climbing , you may think you do, but....… last time you spouted your mouth off to me, I invited you up to the Gunks to join our group and see if you had a set or if you were all talk. Imagine my surprise and disappointment when you did not show…We probably would have picked on you and gotten a laugh or two at your expense, but we would have made it up to you with some beer back at the cabin… In your last post , that mouth and adolescent attitude got your family dragged into it. In the end the bigger man removed the photo, and you were lucky if you ask me… you just don’t know when to stfu…. I am certain that big mouth had a lot to do with your arrest as well. It will no doubt be the cause of future closures and access issues in your area too. you still have not learned any lessons. You are obviously a much more advanced climber than the rest of us to be able to find errors in others climbing technique. Sorry I doubted you oh mighty slab master. I'm not gonna drive 12 hours just to meet up with some retarded foreigner talking shit on the internet... I'm so sorry i couldn't join you... Oh the "bigger" man removed the photo only after like ten people told him he was a fucking douche bag, i dont think that makes him the bigger man... I'm sorry i asked a legitimite question about slab technique, and i asked for your almighty input to see if I was remotely correct... Obviously i was, so you stfu.
Pittsburg to the Gunks is only 6 hours not 12. You are lying again…
He is a much bigger man than you give him credit for… I would have sent the link to your uncle, the media, and the prosecution - with no warning to you. With all the people you pissed off. Maybe some user already did….
You cried wolf too many times in the near past. That fucking mouth of yours has gotten you into some shit already. Do you think it wise to keep running it?
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Dec 11, 2009, 3:54 PM
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jaablink wrote: CrazyPetie wrote: jaablink wrote: First, you don’t know shit about climbing , you may think you do, but....… last time you spouted your mouth off to me, I invited you up to the Gunks to join our group and see if you had a set or if you were all talk. Imagine my surprise and disappointment when you did not show…We probably would have picked on you and gotten a laugh or two at your expense, but we would have made it up to you with some beer back at the cabin… In your last post , that mouth and adolescent attitude got your family dragged into it. In the end the bigger man removed the photo, and you were lucky if you ask me… you just don’t know when to stfu…. I am certain that big mouth had a lot to do with your arrest as well. It will no doubt be the cause of future closures and access issues in your area too. you still have not learned any lessons. You are obviously a much more advanced climber than the rest of us to be able to find errors in others climbing technique. Sorry I doubted you oh mighty slab master. I'm not gonna drive 12 hours just to meet up with some retarded foreigner talking shit on the internet... I'm so sorry i couldn't join you... Oh the "bigger" man removed the photo only after like ten people told him he was a fucking douche bag, i dont think that makes him the bigger man... I'm sorry i asked a legitimite question about slab technique, and i asked for your almighty input to see if I was remotely correct... Obviously i was, so you stfu. Pittsburg to the Gunks is only 6 hours not 12. You are lying again… He is a much bigger man than you give him credit for… I would have sent the link to your uncle, the media, and the prosecution - with no warning to you. With all the people you pissed off. Maybe some user already did…. You cried wolf too many times in the near past. That fucking mouth of yours has gotten you into some shit already. Do you think it wise to keep running it?
fuck dude, take a chill pill!!! you would have turned CP into "dad", you would have called "mommie" on him? you guys are a bunch of fuckin' haters!! maybe it's because it's winter back east and nobody gets to actually climb slab this time of year?
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nate2006
Dec 11, 2009, 4:23 PM
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The picture is correct.
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jt512
Dec 11, 2009, 5:27 PM
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CrazyPetie wrote: Yep i'm an idiot and a troll.
Edited for brevity.
Jay
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areyoumydude
Dec 11, 2009, 6:07 PM
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CrazyPetie wrote: I said "please enlighten me, i know you will", because i know geek balls like yourself are sure to say something stupid. OooOo your a mod, your cool.
I did a search but no luck.
What are geek balls?
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areyoumydude
Dec 11, 2009, 6:11 PM
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Maybe he's just waiting for the clown to show up.
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Dec 11, 2009, 6:11 PM
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jcrew wrote: fuck dude, take a chill pill!!! you would have turned CP into "dad", you would have called "mommie" on him? you guys are a bunch of fuckin' haters!! maybe it's because it's winter back east and nobody gets to actually climb slab this time of year?
You should take yoru own advice there Yoda.
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I did not say I did, I said some user may already have. Or at least should have. But you know that may not be a bad idea, thanks for coming up with it. Good thinking. I hope some user calls his mommy and daddy, I mean he is still a child after all… and - act like a child , be treated like a child… same as - act like a criminal , you be treated like one… He brought his family into that last thread. His uncle probably went to school for 10 years and worked his ass off. But shit why not use your uncle to try to intimidate another user, posting all this on public forum I might add. He made physical threats to other users that had to be removed. Then he got his way and the photo was removed. Now instead of being thankful, he still found a way to justify himself and his erroneous actions. He never really learned anything because he has a shield from reality, a safety line, a rope…, weather it is his parents dealing with his mess, the moderators cleaning up his mess, or people like you defending him.
There is an actual person on the other side of the forum conversation. Everyone does not always see things the way CP views them, and that is something that he should understand before spouting his mouth off. If you wont say it to someone face. You should not say it to someone online. His actions can very easily have real world consequences with no warning .
It would not be me. I am more of the say nothing, then tear off your head and shit down your throat kind of guy, but that is just me… There a lot of people out there who would sooner compound his situation to teach a moral lesson. You never know what you are going to get….
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dugl33
Dec 11, 2009, 8:22 PM
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another off topic rcc pissing contest. ::yawn::
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anyone take any good slab whippers? what caused it? how did it go?
any other good slab climbing tales from the wild side...?
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chadnsc
Dec 11, 2009, 8:31 PM
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dugl33 wrote: another off topic rcc pissing contest. ::yawn:: ****************************************** anyone take any good slab whippers? what caused it? how did it go? any other good slab climbing tales from the wild side...?
Well while leading some quartzite slab in Oklahoma I managed blow my second clip and slid down 40' to the base of the climb with only some seriously scuffed up toes on my shoes. I have no idea how I managed not to face-plant on the way down.
Other than that all I have are stories involving long runouts in the Needles SD. 
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