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talons05
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Actually, I'd be more worried about the guy climbing with a loaded gun. I'd rather have a "sparked doobie" aimed at me any day... Would you shoot your belayer if he made you miss a clip?
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Wow. I certainly don't advocate climbing under the influence, but why the hostile and adversarial tone? Did someone steal your stash? Had a bad experience lately that you need to talk about? Snockered climbers certainly can be a hazard, but my guess is, with that attitude you're far more of a threat to my safety. Relax there, Yosemite Sam.
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Dec 27, 2002, 5:20 AM
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I'm going to go with 'troll' on this one.
2/10
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Dec 27, 2002, 5:24 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out what the threat to your personal safety is.
'Maturity' is not found under "U" in the dictionary.
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I surely hope that the mediators of this forum don't let this adolescent bible thumping red neck from Tex-ass threaten fellow climbers much longer. Yo J, I wouldn't worry about the stoners in the Valley- they all climb much harder than you could pray to!
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Dec 27, 2002, 5:37 AM
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what, you're going to shoot every high end climber in the Valley? This is Cali, bro, light(en) up.
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Wow... do you have NO understanding of valley history??? Ever hear of Magic Mushroom? Something I'm guessing you'll never ever grow the balls to climb?? Anyways, this deffinitly calls for a story:
So two summers ago my 2 weeks in the valley turned into like a month and a half (shoulda been longer but... needless ex-gf stuff). I can't climb every day. The strain starts to get to me and hell, i get bored/lazy. So a lot of rest days I'ld wake up late (but early enough to avoid the man) do the communal breakfast things w/ the other dirt bags and some time around 11-12 cruise down to the lodge store to pick up some king cobra. Ah yes, king cobra, at 75 cents a malt liquor tall boy the cheapest beer in da valley. So, a couple beers later, a little slakin, a dip in the river, chill in the hammok, listen to dylan, genarally just bask in the pure uttter immeasuralbe bliss of camp 4 bummin, some tokes from humbolt tom, I'ld start getting the urge to climb, usally aroudn dinner.
So one of these nights I'ld figure I'ld cruise on over to after 6. I did the first pitch the first night I was in the park and got a little weirded by the glacial polish, but figured, $#!&, I've been hear up couple weeks, I'll solo the bitch. Cruise on over to manure, nod at the mexicans grilling out (wishing I had some of what they were eating) and wander on towards the rock wearing my sandals w/ my shoes clipped to my chalk bag. Do the shoe switch, and blast 400 feet of rock in like 10 minutes. THE best damn climb of my life. Period. Don't worry, I fully planning on enjoying another climb more, but up to this point thats the best thing I've done. I'ld describe it more but I can 't really remmber the experience. Partially due to the buzz, but I think mostly due to the fact that free soloing is just that different of a head space.
Anywyas, wild climb, run into leo harding on top who just soloed nutcracker (on my list now...) and bust on down. Take a look at After 7 and figure that if after six is a 5.7, well then, after seven should be a well, 5.7 (I'm kinda buzzin at this point, go figure). Anywyas, get up on after seven, decide 5.8 is a little harder than I want to free solo, decide I don't really have a choice, and keep crusing to the top. Quite a bit mroe intense than I ment but what the hell, hit camp, drink more beer, burn a bit and have dinner.
A couple weeks later I was in the same situation in camp and decide to head over to swan slab. I'ld soloed aided a 5.11 as practice a couple days before and rember some easy stuff being over there. So i wander around, find some climb with a tree near its base and head up, totatlly onsite. Well, (I'm WAY trashed) about half way up the daylight runs out, I'm getting screwed, and I distintively remember having my feet blow off (moss?) and have to mantle feet free. Once or twice I thought VERY strongly "I'm %@#$ed" "This was a DEEP hole ot get into", but at the same time, I had this weird feeling that someone was looking over me. Alomst like the ghost/spirit of harding or robbins (yeah, I know they were alive, but that was still the impression. I guess they were the only valley climbers I was aware of then so I natrually pictured them). Regardless, I had this strong impression of someone over seeing me and protecting me while I soloed this climb of questionable difficuly in the dark. This is deffinetly the only time I have ever experienced this feeling and it really hit me pretty hard. The next few days I kept describing it to everyone i could find and no one could really relate. Mabey I had somesort of guardian spirit around.
Fortunetly I'm drunk enough that the my situation doesn't freak me out too much (??) and I get to the top and find some 3rd class descent by holding my keychain light between my teeth. One of my friends later told me that I passed out 20 minutes after getting back to camp.
So I guess I'm saying keep an open mind? Things other and yourself will do will really suprise you. And the valley is a trully truly magical place.
Mike
Edit: oh yeah, I forgot. The next day I went to find the route I soloed. I couldn't find anything a swan that looked easy enough for me to solo. Weird.
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Well, first of all, I believe jbtjc is quite allergic to the smoke in question. I may be wrong, but I think that is what was said in another forum.. So, I understand his strong feelings, however, the method by which he's warning us is overly severe, to say the least.
As for bigwallgumbie (emphasis on gumbie), just because you soloed two of the most oft rope free climbs in the valley, trashed on the two most oft used substances, you really aren't saying much. In fact, you are strongly showing your gumbie style (or lack thereof). So, in conclusion, if you'd actually done a little climbing in the park, perhaps you would have a better story to tell.
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small wall? know what the name of that route at swan is? I'm kinda curious...
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Smallwall, no need to attack anyone else here... While not smart, and definitely something I wouldn't recommend, bigwall still has an interesting story to tell, and that's what it's all about anyway. Climbing is about the experience, and you save that experience by retelling it every chance you get. Nothing wrong with that.
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Dec 27, 2002, 6:23 AM
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i could see the threat to him...maybe if some guys totally toasted and tossing his gear all over the place...like down a cliff...but jesus...bit of some overreaction going on over there
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Dec 27, 2002, 6:56 AM
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Leave the poor guy be... he's a climbe rin Dallas... he's gotta be a little skewed.
noobflamewar4lyfe !
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Dec 27, 2002, 7:30 AM
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Joshua,
Maybe climbing near Militantville, Idaho would work out better for you.Why not try nra.com.? Stupid post!
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Hey Bigwall, I'm not to sure if you should be telling that over the net where some new guy reads it and thinks it would be cool to get loaded and free solo his hardest route ever.
I'm not telling you not to do what you do or even trying to rip into you. I just think in a place like this we should not glorify actions like this. I'm not saying I'm gonna shoot you either I just don't want to see anyone hurt. Go ahead and say what you want about me, just think about the influence you can have on someone and the impact it could have on thier live (death).
So no hard feelings I'll buy you a real beer sometimes (GUINNESS, it's not just a beer it's a meal)
Cheers mate and be safe.
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Dec 27, 2002, 9:41 AM
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people, leave the guy alone. he has good meanings...if i had a stoned guy belaying me and i lived through it i would have to kick his ass...
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Dec 27, 2002, 11:06 AM
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I'm casting my ballot for troll...
That statement alone could be a felony though if I'm not mistaken, anyone working with law enforcement seeing this?
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Dec 27, 2002, 11:37 AM
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This post has really hit a nerve with me People who use guns to shoot or threaten people are spineless F#%$wits! Sure if someone rubs you the wrong way go and have words or even a bit of a barney but to actually threaten someone with a gun.....
Come on guys you live in a country with an international reputation for high school massacres and street shootings, this post does little to dispel that reputation. Did you really think before posting that or did you just think it would impress your mates??
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Dec 27, 2002, 1:38 PM
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What is up with this guy?
First he threatens to shoot fellow climbers because of an imaginary threat to himself and then has the nerve to end his crazy ranting with "Happy Climbing".
Do those in the armed forces consider themselves to be above the law?, he may be from Texas and I'm sure we can make allowances for that but this isn't a John Wayne western and you just can't go around shooting anything that moves.
Perhaps this idiot just likes to threaten to shoot people in order to feel better about himself, if that's the case get a shrink real quick and leave climbing to those of us who still have their marbles.
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Dec 27, 2002, 1:40 PM
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What is up with this guy?
He is a piece of $#!& that is what is up with this guy!
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Dec 27, 2002, 1:54 PM
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bad troll. BAAAD troll.
May you come to have 3 shipfulls of gold.
And may it be not enough to pay your hospital bill after zippering every peice you placed because you were reaching for your (your dad's) .45 to blast somebody.
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bigwallgumbie
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Damn, I bit on that one. The perils of PUI.
That was supposed to be the hardest route I'ld soloed. And if that post gets some dumbass killed? Go Go Darwin!!!
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Dec 27, 2002, 2:19 PM
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The only "threat to your world" is that sick mind you walk around with.
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talons05
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Durus -
As to your question of whether or not his statement was illegal, it depends on who comes across it. If it was verbal, you could have him arrested for "Terroristic Threatening." Since it's not, though, we'll all just laugh at him and I'll spend the next 6 months trying to convince everyone that just because I say "y'all," it doesn't make me another Southern Redneck...
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jbtjc,
Get over it man. ALSO, If anyone is in the valley and you see this idiot while you are burning down a big one, make sure to point out to the nearest ranger that there is a 19 year old with a handgun in the valley. I think that he will be the one that will be feeling the heavy hand of the law. Legal age to carry a concealed weapon in CA or TX is 21. Just another stupid troll kid with a computer.
Plus, .45s are for sissies. real men carry a raging bull.
BWG, pound one for me next time.
stewart
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Dec 27, 2002, 3:30 PM
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Just have the experience. Their is enough danger in the sport, no need to add to it.
Just have fun and keep safe, no matter how you climb.
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Jo dudes! live the poor Joshua alone. U c, he hasn´t even posted another message.
hey Josh! try mastering the little gun that hangs in between your legs first.
Keep it free and vertical
aj
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What an odviously inflamitory and childish thing to say.
Grow up or get off the crag.
If only men could skip the whole 17 to 25 year old portion of life thing in this world we go alot smoother.
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I Say "fire em up" Burn that sweet grass if that is your thing. If not just relax I have climbed with many climbers that have been high and have never once felt unsafe. But that is your judgement call. I say burn on.
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Another punk b!tch hiding behind a gun eh. Grow some balls and be a man nancy boy.
Be careful if you ever decide to threaten some one with a gun face to face. They might just drop you like a stone before you get a chance to pull it pansy a$$.
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talons05
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I think we came down a little hard on the guy.
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Troll
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Dec 27, 2002, 5:12 PM
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i will drown you.
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Completely aside from the whole "threatening with guns thing" (does he have a holster on his harness ):
I have seen a good amount of folks smoking up before bouldering or doing sport climbs. Do any of you who do this feel that you climb at your full potential (or even ABOVE it) when you are smoking the grass?
Personally, I get tired and sleepy when after smoking up. So I couldn't imagine climbing while stoned. But I know some people get energetic and hyper under the influence.
So, cannibus fans, let me know what you think. I am curious. Don't worry, jbtjc won;t shoot you for speaking up (I don't think ...)
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TROLL
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cloudbreak
Dec 27, 2002, 6:22 PM
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Yes.....another TROLL! But, check out the big brains on all those still replying like it's not!!
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I wasn't around back then...but still, we would all do well to remember that the history of our sport is pretty well rooted in substance abuse. So before you pull your .45, think about those who came before you and made climbing what it is. So before you get all worked up, tip your cowboy hat the the Vulgarians and read some of the bedtime stories on Fish's site.
Climb safe!
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bwg- That'd be oak tree flake to bay tree flake. Big oak tree at the base, on up to the top of grant's crack, up some broken blocks to a 15 foot or so hand crack. It is a great solo, hovever, if you'll peek in the bouldering guidebook, you'll note the general feeling about swan slab solo gumbies.
You know, when I first arrived in Yosemite, I didn't understand the "local" disdain for weekend warrior bumblies. Though I do not feel all climbers out there fall under such a catergory, a year in the ditch will wear the nerves rather thin. Many would call it unfair, as I had many of the same issues when I was starting out, but clumsy and inexperienced climbers simply do cause frustration....
max
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troll...
but in response to redpoint--
i dont ever smoke when ropes or gear are involved, but i often spark up before, during and after most bouldering sessions. its chill, and it does actually help unlock some of those "hidden" sequences that escape the sober imagination...
i do try to show respect ot others and be as inobtrusive as possible...
for the record, and i apologize if this was already mentioned, i didnt feel like reading three pages of trolling--ron kauk only did the FA of midnight lightning a few days after it was first conceived during another individuals (i forgot who) mushroom induced hallucinations...
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Gun happy pussy. Im from Canada are all texans this f--ked. Man loosen up.
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Sounds like a climbing terrorist...Does he have wires attached to him?
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Quote:are all texans this fusked?
Steepfish... no. I'm puffin' chron ot my dome on the big hammer right now, brah and waitin' for the sun to dry up the limestone a little.
Word up.
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Ya don't mess with Texas!
What a joke!
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Guns are not allowed in Yosemite If I see you with a gun there I will report you to the rangers. I have spent over 40 days in Yosemite this year and not once has some one ever had such a bad attitude as you, not even on Supertopo, the premier Yose web site.
If I were to smoke there I'd blow it in your face just to spite you.
As another poster said this is California, if you and your Texas butt dont like it, dont visit.
Looking at your profile you are not even old enough to own a pistol and remember its a felony to bring a gun to Yosemite and they do have a jail in the Valley with room for you.
You are obviously not aware of Yosemite, it is a police state, the rangers watch all that we do and they would love to find someone with a gun, especially an idiot who thinks he needs to shoot at stoner, the ranger only give tickets for pot, they would certainly arrest you and take your gun and belongings.
Damn man, what is wrong with you?
I hope I dont run into you, you wont like me, but it may be fun watching you get spanked on Pine Line.
Troll or not, you have blow it for your future in Yosemite as far as I am concerned. If I see you, even if you dont have a gun I will report you as being armed. This is not a funny troll when you threaten to shoot someone, I take it very serious.
Keep this in mind when you visit the Valley
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CLIMBING UNDER THE INFLUENCE......DONT DO IT!
DUH
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I'd be more worried about you walking around with a gun and that attitude.
piss off!! MYOB and all the others!
oh yeah and Redpoint: All the time, doesn't make me climb better doesn't make me climb worse, I have a prescription and do it for other reasons, bring on the bullets!!!
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I'd be a little concerned about hittin the crag around Dallas these days.
Seriously, Josh check this link out: www.digitalcity.com/dallas/psychiatrists/
We venture into nature to get away from folks like you. Please stay home and get help!
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Christ Almighty, here we have a complete dumb ass giving Texas climbers a bad name. Instead of going all Dirty Harry on everyone, I think he should try smoking the wacky tabacky, maybe he'll sell his big ol' gun and buy a bong instead.
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Wow,
Anyone who Carries a loaded .45 Winchester Magnum on a climb must be a real TOUGH GUY...Is it really loaded...like full of bullets??? WOW, I THOUGHT PEOPLE CARRIED GUNS AROUND WITHOUT BULLETS...duh!!! you probably only need one BULLET in the chamber and maybe one more round just to be safe...that way you could cut some weight...Oh you probably use steel caribiners too, so it won't really matter. Maybe you should consider some snake shot...or some blanks... just a thought!!!
Really though...it sounds like you are a complete frickin' idiot...Any ass#$*& that sprays what your sprayin' really needs to reconsider what lifes all about...
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TIME FOR SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP...TEX
PS.. WATCH FOR FALLING OVALS, UH, I MEAN ROCKS NEXT SUMMER...BETTER WEAR A HELMET!!!
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wooooooooow!
dudes, the drugs must have worn off!
chill!
so the little guys got a gun and an attitude problem! "boys with toys" big mouths and too much testosterone to boot! it's just talk.
you guys have been flamin this guy for days! such language! remember your blood pressure?
this thread should have faded into oblivion days ago! don't give him the satisfaction.
climb above him... literally.
let it go
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Mmmmmmmm, to think I sometimes envy you chaps in the States. All those national parks and big walls.
Tomorrow, Im off to the Peak District (that's in England for those who aren't sure) where I'll probably spend my precious limited climbing time huddled under some overhang, cursing the rain (again) and trying to keep my gear dry.
But, $#!&, Im so lucky... that's all I'll have to worry about.
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thoxsie
Dec 31, 2002, 1:46 PM
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Hey, Joshua there is only 54 listed "Brandt" in the Dallas area. Be careful who you threaten because you are not that hard to find. And in this world it wouldn't be hard to put you in jail for what you just said.
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lox
Dec 31, 2002, 7:13 PM
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Oh lord.
You are threatening to find him and send him to jail because he threatened to shoot you if he saw you at the crag with a joint ?
God bless teh internet.
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one900johnnyk
Dec 31, 2002, 7:57 PM
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anyone who thinks his original post was serious is a fool (what do they call it? trolling?) ... whatever the case may be, i bet he was stoned out of his gourd when he wrote the message. haha. and now i feel dirty just for contributing to the replies but it's gone on too long.
recognize
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edman1
Dec 31, 2002, 8:12 PM
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Chris Sharma, strongest climber in the world, poster boy for potheads, tokes up all the time....
In your face, all you bible thumpin, gun totin, DARE to keep your kids off drugs, jock, preppie, t-totalers...hahahhahahha
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crack_head
Dec 31, 2002, 8:21 PM
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yeah sharma is major stoner i prefer to get rocked after i climb.
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polarwid
Dec 31, 2002, 8:46 PM
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