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olive
Apr 2, 2005, 7:06 PM
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Hi all,
Well, as a climber who is not a teen, I make sure that I am never without ibuprofen. I always thought, though, that taking anti-inflammatories not only decreased pain, but actually helped the healing of injuries as well, well by reducing the inflammation (and thus promoting blood flow to the area, I guess, but I am not sure of this). Anyway, due to a stupid shoulder injury (dont even ask how I got it) I went to the doctor yesterday. After she told me the usual (ice, rest etc.) I asked her whether she was going to prescribe anything. She said that there was new research which claims that NSAIDs prescribed by the clock actually might be preventing healing rather than helping it. Thus, she said, she was avoiding to prescribe NSAIDs by the clock, but saying only to take it if the pain is too bad. I told her that I thought NSAIDs helped the healing and she said "yes, that is what we thought too, before".
Anyway, just wanted to share this with you and ask whether any of you know anything about this. This might change my relationship with ibuprofen.
take care.
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kimgraves
Apr 2, 2005, 7:32 PM
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Hi,
When I was lifting weights it was generally agreed that you should not take anti-inflammatories for soreness. That soreness was the natural effect of exercise and that you would short-circuit the recovery, and therefore strengthening, process by taking them.
My wife is currently going through a prolotherapy sequence for a torn rotator cuff. This is just a process where you artificially induce a "sore-ness". She was explicitly told not to take anti-inflammatories, as they would reduce the effects of the therapy.
Regards, Kim
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justthemaid
Apr 3, 2005, 4:16 PM
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I also am being treated for a rotator cuff injury. I also developed some severe tendonitis at the same time. Doctor gave me 2 weeks of Motrin to deal with the inflamation from the tendonitis, but warned me to stop after the 2 weeks so the cuff can heal.
I had some minor surgery a year ago and my doctor said absolutely no Ibuprofin or other comperable drugs for 30 days PRIOR to the surgery, and 2 weeks following, because they are starting to see it slows healing.
It seems the medical world is starting to take this view. Damn them! I love Advil.
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kman
Apr 5, 2005, 4:38 PM
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Wait at least 24 hours before taking anti-inflams...some inflammation is neccessary for healing to start. Use ice and painkiller for the first 24.
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nuts_r_us
Apr 5, 2005, 4:46 PM
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I call BS. What are the data? Anybody have anything more than an opinion or personal experience (N=1)?
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jgrierson
Apr 5, 2005, 5:32 PM
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In reply to: I call BS. What are the data? Anybody have anything more than an opinion or personal experience (N=1)?
Try the following links for a more scientific perspective.
I have use these drugs every day at work and research shows that the benefits far outway any potential disadvantages. But there are lots of opinions. Don't always believe what you hear. Look for the evidence and then decide. :wink:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...t&list_uids=15634827
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...t&list_uids=15161166
That gives you two conflicting views, none of you guys are wrong but think before changing your treatment plans
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cbare
Apr 6, 2005, 6:34 AM
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There is research that both supports and does not support the use of NSAIDS for skeletal and soft tissue injuries. I think that the best thing to do is research your self and talk with your health care provider regarding what you want when faced with an injury. We know that NSAIDS do help with the pain and make us more comfortable and to some extent may help with the swelling,however, we also know that they can lead to problems with the gastrointestinal system (ulcers, bleeding, stomach upset) and the kidneys, (more common with long term use) and yes there is research that indicates that NSAIDS may lead to slower healing and other problems. The fact is, there is no magic cure for musculoskeletal injuries. Rest, time, and proper rehab will heal most injuries, but in some cases long term problems may linger (ie arthritis). So, it comes down to weighing the pros and cons and making up your own mind.
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daisuke
Apr 6, 2005, 6:57 AM
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somewhat off the topic of if they help healing or not...
but you shouldn't be climbing if it hurts enough that you have to take NSAIDs, R&R is the only thing that is truly going to help you. What NSAIDs do is block the pain receptors and at the same time reduce swelling, so they're just muffling the effects of an injury, it only looks and feels better, but if you climb on it it's only going to get worse.
Also, NSAIDs build up in the body and it's a very bad idea to take them continously unless prescribed by a doctor or if you have no choice
oh and for those who don't follow the letters... NSAID = Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflamatory Drug.
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bluenose
Apr 6, 2005, 1:47 PM
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I've always been one to avoid any drug treatments for headaches and minor pains. The odd time when the pain is intolerable I've resorted to some tylenols or the like. I'm glad that there is finally some recognition that this NSAIDs aren't really a wonder drug to be used for every little thing that happens to you.
Jeff.
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jcshaggy
Apr 6, 2005, 2:00 PM
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Try a lot of rest-about 6 weeks or so depending on the injury.
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polishbob
Apr 10, 2005, 10:16 PM
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yes i am sure you have pain and injuries due to NASIDS deficiency in your system! use your head. not only these drugs prevent proper healing, but cause about 18 000 deaths a year due to side effects.
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