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dingus
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Black Diamond = SUCK.
Petzl = SUCK
Camp = SUCK.
SUCK SUCK SUCK.
I tried to buy a helmet yesterday. I tried on 5 different models priced from the mid-40.00 to high 90s.
SUCK SUCK SUCK.
All of them.
The hard shells have a variety of problems - chiefly that they are cheap pieces of shit. The chin straps alone... someone needs to introduce these climbing gear companies to a chin strap pad... what a fucking CONCEPT!
At the end of the day I walked out in disgust. These helmets are horrible - poorly fitting, cheaply built pieces of CRAP.
Are there any good climbing helmets out there or are they all like these pieces of shit???
DMT
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wonderwoman
Sep 2, 2009, 1:34 PM
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My helmet tried to kill me! Helmets are dangerous!
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...d;page=unread#unread
Actually, I have found only one helmet that will fit my puny head. It's the black diamond meteor, and they better not change it on me, either!
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jakedatc
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I have a Simond Bumper. It's a foam style though.. so that might not be what you're looking for. it fits like a glove and has a chin strap pad. I think it's mostly an ice helmet but i use it for trad and sport instead.
they may not make it anymore though.. can't seem to find anyone selling it.
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USnavy
Sep 2, 2009, 1:49 PM
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There is a solution for you.
Try this on: 
Once you give that baby a try you will find helmets a bit more appealing.
So you have been climbing how long and this is your first time trying on a helmet...?
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Skidemon27
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i have the Meteor III, and i love it, lightweight, and comfortable
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andersjr
Sep 2, 2009, 1:58 PM
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All their designs do suck.
All of these replies suck. Don't get high and mighty, don't show me a stupid picture. Your opinion doesn't even relate to the original post. You can take that rock and sho...
Why can't one company make a helmet that doesn't make me feel like an idiot?
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dingus
Sep 2, 2009, 2:02 PM
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USnavy wrote: There is a solution for you. Try this on: [img]http://i.treehugger.com/images/2007/10/24/rock%20snot-jj-001.jpg[/img] Once you give that baby a try you will find helmets a bit more appealing. So you have been climbing how long and this is your first time trying on a helmet...?
You're an idiot. Please go away.
DMT
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MS1
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I also like the meteor III, if foam-style doesn't bother you. No chin-strap pad, but the thing weighs so little and breathes so well you hardly notice it is on your head.
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markc
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The only helmet I've owned is the HB El Cap. The adjustment system isn't much to write home about, but it's tough.
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Sep 2, 2009, 2:25 PM
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dingus wrote: Black Diamond = SUCK. Petzl = SUCK Camp = SUCK. SUCK SUCK SUCK. I tried to buy a helmet yesterday. I tried on 5 different models priced from the mid-40.00 to high 90s. SUCK SUCK SUCK. All of them. The hard shells have a variety of problems - chiefly that they are cheap pieces of shit. The chin straps alone... someone needs to introduce these climbing gear companies to a chin strap pad... what a fucking CONCEPT! At the end of the day I walked out in disgust. These helmets are horrible - poorly fitting, cheaply built pieces of CRAP. Are there any good climbing helmets out there or are they all like these pieces of shit??? DMT
I do think that helmets suck as much as women's harnesses. 
I hate my Petzl Elios (which was bought for me- and presented to me- based on head circumference measurement, I did not try it on beforehand). I hate the straps, I hate how poorly it fits me (sure it cinches down to my head size... and then there is all that extra helmet hanging in the back and making my neck hurt!), and in case I wasn't clear before, I just HATE it.
I have not yet found a better alternative.
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rtwilli4
Sep 2, 2009, 2:28 PM
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I rarely wear a helmet but the CAMP one fit's my head pretty well and it's relatively cheap so I got one. I agree that it's missing a few things but I think they are making a lot of helmets as cheap as possible without compromising safety... just because they know we are all poor and a helmet is the last thing we'll buy.
Have you tried the new Wild Country helmet? I hear good things.
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dingus
Sep 2, 2009, 2:40 PM
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The camp helmet strap is too short for my big head. It cannot be extended. Yet of the 3 harshells I tried, I liked the Camp best, otherwise. Ah well, too bad.
I may have to go foam this time. Crushed my last foamy with a haulbag and have not been keen on them since.
DMT
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billcoe_
Sep 2, 2009, 2:47 PM
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Lita - one rant per thread and Dingus has this well covered already. LOL
Dingus, you named the top 3 companies and if they suck you might ask if it's just you. Like I had a head injury 30 some years ago that left a bump on my forehead, and every helmet hurts my bump a little bit. Nothing I can do so I don't complain.
The Wild Country helmets look interesting (abiet expensive). Good luck!
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gblauer
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Sep 2, 2009, 2:48 PM
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I just had to buy a new helmet, mine dropped off my head (minus my head) when I failed to buckle the chin strap. It fell 200 feet and cracked.
I have hated every helmet I have owned, with the exception of the one I just purchased. They were all ill fitting. I now have a kids sized BD and it's really good. It's foam, but, it seems pretty sturdy.
(I have had 2 Camps, 1 Petz and now a BD. I kept trying to find a decent helmet.)
Have you tried search and rescue companies? Perhaps they have a different helmet.
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agdavis
Sep 2, 2009, 2:52 PM
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i love my petzl ecrin roc. i think it's the least dorky looking out of the bunch. super comfortable too.
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jpetsch123
Sep 2, 2009, 3:11 PM
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The Mammut helmets have a chin strap pad, by the way.
http://www.mammut.ch/en/productDetail/222000050_v_0243_5361cm/Skywalker+2.html
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rock_fencer
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i see alot of people wearing the grivel salamander helmet...it looks a little more comfortable than
BD's
edit: the grivel gladiator sure offers full protection!
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budman
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When I wear a helmet I still use the skater's helmet I had when I boarding and inline staking. More like a hockey helmet. Usually don't but certain situations call for it. It also provides better protection at the back of the head if you were to fall. F a lot of new stuff. Sometimes you gotta go with your instincts and improvise.
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dan2see
Sep 2, 2009, 3:35 PM
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Dingus is right.
Everybody I know agrees with him. So it's really odd that Dingus has to be our pioneer at complaining about what everybody else wants to complain about, but didn't think about.
It's the same with shoes, and the inside door handles on cars. I mean, these are all things we need, and use, but we really really wish somebody would design one that we felt good and looked good.
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dingus
Sep 2, 2009, 3:40 PM
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billcoe_ wrote: Lita - one rant per thread and Dingus has this well covered already. LOL Dingus, you named the top 3 companies and if they suck you might ask if it's just you. Like I had a head injury 30 some years ago that left a bump on my forehead, and every helmet hurts my bump a little bit. Nothing I can do so I don't complain. The Wild Country helmets look interesting (abiet expensive). Good luck!
No, they suck - believe it.
I do have a big head though. The chin strap problem was present on all by the Pretzel model. So I guess the French fathead syndrome plays to my favor. Too bad the rest of the Petzl hard hat sucks so bad.
The foam hats seem better built - perhaps this is simply a price point issue? Are there any 80-100 dollar hard hats on the market?
Cheers
DMT
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IsayAutumn
Sep 2, 2009, 3:41 PM
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dingus wrote: Black Diamond = SUCK. Petzl = SUCK Camp = SUCK. SUCK SUCK SUCK. I tried to buy a helmet yesterday. I tried on 5 different models priced from the mid-40.00 to high 90s. SUCK SUCK SUCK. All of them. The hard shells have a variety of problems - chiefly that they are cheap pieces of shit. The chin straps alone... someone needs to introduce these climbing gear companies to a chin strap pad... what a fucking CONCEPT! At the end of the day I walked out in disgust. These helmets are horrible - poorly fitting, cheaply built pieces of CRAP. Are there any good climbing helmets out there or are they all like these pieces of shit??? DMT
Suck it up, whine-o.
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dingus
Sep 2, 2009, 3:44 PM
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budman wrote: When I wear a helmet I still use the skater's helmet I had when I boarding and inline staking. More like a hockey helmet. Usually don't but certain situations call for it. It also provides better protection at the back of the head if you were to fall. F a lot of new stuff. Sometimes you gotta go with your instincts and improvise.
Rock fall and side impact are my biggest concerns when it comes to 'other sport' helmets like this. I still do enough alpine and walls that rock fall is perhaps the most valid concern for wearing one.
I certainly want a brain bucket in most alpine and wall zones. FA work too, even for half pitch. Momma says FA work is like a box of chocolates...
RUN!
DMT
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dingus
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IsayAutumn wrote: dingus wrote: Black Diamond = SUCK. Petzl = SUCK Camp = SUCK. SUCK SUCK SUCK. I tried to buy a helmet yesterday. I tried on 5 different models priced from the mid-40.00 to high 90s. SUCK SUCK SUCK. All of them. The hard shells have a variety of problems - chiefly that they are cheap pieces of shit. The chin straps alone... someone needs to introduce these climbing gear companies to a chin strap pad... what a fucking CONCEPT! At the end of the day I walked out in disgust. These helmets are horrible - poorly fitting, cheaply built pieces of CRAP. Are there any good climbing helmets out there or are they all like these pieces of shit??? DMT Suck it up, whine-o.
I did. It resulted in a NO SALE for REI.
I'll have to try a specialty shop I reckon, one that carries mroe than Chevys and Fords.
DMT
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roy_hinkley_jr
Sep 2, 2009, 4:18 PM
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Silly rant. First mistake was going to REI. Might be credible if you listed the specific models you tried and not just brands. Camp helmet have chin strap pads. You do know that the Y straps must be adjusted for proper fit right? It's well worth 5 minutes of fine-tuning before you decide on any model.
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dingus
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My first mistake eh?
Whatever.
And I done told you the camp chin strap is too short. DO... try to pay attention.
DMT
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