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qwert
Nov 20, 2011, 11:37 AM
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bearbreeder wrote: that type of failure looks like it would still happen with a gridlock ... a belay master however may prevent it ...
Though it would be prevented, if you put the 8 in the small end of the gridlock (could you fit it in there?).
In reply to: not that it has anything to do with regular belay use ... 
Not too long ago, the 8 was the prevalent belay device here in europe, and you still see it used quite often. Those people that use it regularly, almost all have the 8 fixed to the "bottom" of their belay biner with tape or some rubber bands, to preven the issue pictured above!
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bearbreeder
Nov 20, 2011, 1:04 PM
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well i can safely say that ive never seen anyone belay with a figure 8 and a gridlock ... im sure someone out there has seen it though
BD should market the gridlock as best used for lead soloing on gri gris and belaying on figure 8s ... unfortunately i think that will restrict the size of their intended market
like i said what people buy is up to them ... as long as they dont insist its "safer", especially if they dont insist i belay em with one of those "safe" biners ....
people on the intrawebs spend more time arguing over how "unsafe" or "safe" gear is .... than worrying about the things that are most likely to hurt you ...
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Marylandclimber
Nov 24, 2011, 4:30 PM
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I gotta agree with there.
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