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marc801


Aug 20, 2012, 1:11 AM
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In 20 years he still has NOT NEEDED TO LEARN HOW TO PLACE THEM Sly
Or so you and he think. Until recently he's a 30 yr Gunks regular. Instead of learning how to place good pink and red tricams in all those shallow horizontals, he'd rather opt for a shitty camalot or TCU that will rip if you hung a pair of sneakers on them. Good trade-off of ideology over practicality and reality. Sounds just like the Republicans.


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Can't speak for your partner but there are lots of very good climbers who do not need or use tricams. I started out with a passive rack and certainly paied my dues 30 years ago with tri cams and hexes but could easily live without them. Every time I have done a route in the last decade where the guidebook warned that tricams were mandatory I have managed to protect it without said tricams. The black tricam is only 3kn. The same size BD TCU is 10 kn... whatever.. keep fiddleing as much as you want just be aware that it is a fettish and not the essentual big deal that the tricam groupies seem to have bought into...


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Can't speak for your partner but there are lots of very good climbers who do not need or use tricams. I started out with a passive rack and certainly paied my dues 30 years ago with tri cams and hexes but could easily live without them. Every time I have done a route in the last decade where the guidebook warned that tricams were mandatory I have managed to protect it without said tricams. The black tricam is only 3kn. The same size BD TCU is 10 kn... whatever.. keep fiddleing as much as you want just be aware that it is a fettish and not the essentual big deal that the tricam groupies seem to have bought into...
Keeping in mind that the BD TCU only holds 10kN if it stays in the placement during a fall. Like I said at least twice - they're not for everyone. Really, it's OK if you can't figure out how to use them. There are other options. Sometimes.

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Mark. point is I can use them better than most yet mostly choose not to because most of the time there are better options. You are of course free to live in your little dream world where tricams are better than cold micro beer while the elightened ones know that tricams are the keystone light backwash swill of the camming devicesWink


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tradmanclimbs wrote:
Mark. point is I can use them better than most yet mostly choose not to because most of the time there are better options. You are of course free to live in your little dream world where tricams are better than cold micro beer while the elightened ones know that tricams are the keystone light backwash swill of the camming devicesWink
They're just another tool in the quiver, sometimes useless, sometimes easily replaced by something else, sometimes just perfect. Since the OP was just asking about their use in vertical cracks and probably not wanting to start a religious war over protection (which would be ludicrous), it seems we're kinda at that dead horse point.

[Of course that's not to be confused with Dead Horse Point...]


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