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metoliusmunchkin
Feb 16, 2002, 3:43 PM
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Throughout your uses of the Anasazi-Velcro, what have been its pros and cons? This of course, is an excellent gym shoe, although I am looking into purchasing a shoe, more specifically built for the rock (preferably a lace-up). Thus, someone suggested I look into the Anasazi-Lace-ups. Any pros and cons of this particular shoe as well? [ This Message was edited by: metoliusmunchkin on 2002-02-17 10:31 ]
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climbingaddict
Feb 16, 2002, 3:59 PM
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I have a pair of AV. They're really comfortable, nice grip, toe box feels nice, not too cramp... the cons, i can't think of any right now.. I think AV and Lace-up would probably give you the same satisfaction, but maybe lace-up have better grip
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ratstar
Feb 16, 2002, 4:33 PM
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Both the lace ups and the velcros are awesome. Both edge well and the rubber is a really nice smearing rubber too. I dont know of any cons except for they arent free. If they were free everyone would have a pair.
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climbingaddict
Feb 16, 2002, 4:39 PM
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amen to that ratstar. if the anasazis were free, i'd get tons of them
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cory
Feb 16, 2002, 5:17 PM
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Because they're softer,velcros grab on steep rock a bit better than the lace-ups do. Consequently, lace-ups edge a bit better, due to that extra stiffness. I guess it all depends on where you climb then.
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jt512
Feb 17, 2002, 5:00 AM
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Regarding the Velcros... Pros: Edge quite well, though not quite as well as a lace-up. 5.10 Stealth rubber is the stickiest. Velcro = easy on, easy off Pointy toe good for front pointing and in thin cracks Don't need to be sized too tight, for some reason Cons: Marginal in jam cracks Don't smear as well as slippers (but they're ok) -Jay [ This Message was edited by: jt512 on 2002-02-16 21:01 ]
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kyhangdog
Feb 17, 2002, 4:57 PM
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Performance: Great, awesome, super-sticky Cons: Price, price, price I've used Anasazi Velcros for the last six years, but couldn't afford a new pair. Tried the Tenaya Sapiens/Scratch from www.barrabes.com. Half the price and very good. They are knock-offs of the Anasazis. Not quite as sticky, but excellent for $50.00.
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metoliusmunchkin
Feb 17, 2002, 6:30 PM
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Seeing as that didn't work, here's the address for a pic, and some opinions of it: http://www.epinions.com/content_49633660548 I'd still like to hear from you guys however.
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jds100
Feb 18, 2002, 8:05 PM
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I've always preferred the velcro, but I've heard a number of other climbers say that the lace-ups fit better. The Anasazi has been the best shoe I've had, amongst about a dozen different brands and models. That is up until I bought a different brand from http://www.barrabes.com. The Tenaya brand, Scratch model is a perfect replica of the much more expensive FiveTen Anasazi Velcro. The price from barrabes.com, including shipping, was about $60, and I got 'em in 3 days! Tenaya does have a lace up version, too, and a slipper that is like the Mocasym from FiveTen. The rubber is from Vibram, so its a major brand of rubber that other shoe makers use. The Anasazi or Scracth is lined with a cloth liner, and is made of man-made "leather", so they do not stretch nearly much as real leather slippers (e.g. the Mocasym). I recommend them HIGHLY for outdoor and indoor climbing. I've heard different store clerks describe a shoe as an "indoor" shoe, and then I see big-name climbers, in photos, wearing them outdoors, so any distinction between indoors and outdoors is, I think, only in the minds of marketers and uninformed clerks. Check out http://www.barrabes.com for Tenaya shoes! [ This Message was edited by: jds100 on 2002-02-18 12:06 ]
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climbingaddict
Feb 19, 2002, 5:49 PM
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yeah, all i've got to say is that 510 makes some of the best shoes, no doubt about that, espescially with stealth rubber. And so, AV and lace-ups are both awesome.. And if anyone disagree with me, find a different topic to talk about
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jackmguirk
Feb 19, 2002, 6:41 PM
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they are both about the same, and they are the best shoes made, in my opinion, although like previous posts said, they are painful in jam cracks. jack mguirk
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livnfre
Feb 19, 2002, 6:42 PM
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To me there is nothing better than the av.
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colin
Feb 19, 2002, 10:18 PM
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Steep overhangs-AV Lots of precise edgework-AL
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climbingaddict
Feb 23, 2002, 5:27 PM
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AV are the best, well, all of the 510 lineups are the best. 510 all the way
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