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rick_marsh
Apr 20, 2006, 5:28 PM
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Will,
Nice job getting that injured climber down to the waiting ambulances.
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nedsurf
Apr 20, 2006, 5:29 PM
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In reply to: Agreed about the title/Alien implication. It is a good cam and will fit where most others will not. One note: Yes, it had the dimple in the stem. Also, although the guy mentioned he had been climbing for 5 years, I recognized that his gear was BRAND new, consisted of ovals, some Omega D-s and BRAND new BW slings, as well as his aliens. Okay, where have we seen all of that type gear? REI. One sign of his experience level = he was utilizing locking biners to rack his cams.
Not gonna say which outdoor store I work for so as not to put myself into the PR rep. position but... I have had to serve customers who were bound and determined to spend their big DC paychecks on a full rack of crap. It is obvious that they don't know what they are doing and will not listen. I cannot refuse to sell and I don't give instruction on the floor, period. I do strongly urge them to buy FOTH and go across the street to the local climbing gym to get qualified instruction. Sometimes I show them the disclamer tag on every piece of gear sold repeating what I just told them to do. It is usually like talking to a brick wall...sigh.
Not making any claims about the person who fell, just commenting on the quoted post. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
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wjca
Apr 20, 2006, 5:40 PM
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Good job on the rescue Will, and thanks for the report.
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kachoong
Apr 20, 2006, 6:34 PM
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^^ ....what he said.... Great job, Will! :wink: ....thanks for clearing up the details.
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majid_sabet
Apr 20, 2006, 8:09 PM
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crankingclimber
Great job guys. You said he fall 50-60 feet and had total of 6 pc in the rock, two cams both failed.
Two questions
What was the distance between his top cam to the bottom cam and then from the ledge to belay, also how far and what was the distance between each pc if you can recall or at lease if there was not any ledge, how far from the last cam to the next pc.
Thanks
Majid
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papounet
Apr 20, 2006, 8:30 PM
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In reply to: Good job on the rescue Will, and thanks for the report.
secunded
In reply to: crankingclimber Great job guys. You said he fall 50-60 feet and had total of 6 pc in the rock, two cams both failed. Two questions What was the distance between his top cam to the bottom cam and then from the ledge to belay, also how far and what was the distance between each pc if you can recall or at lease if there was not any ledge, how far from the last cam to the next pc. Thanks Majid
Majid, what do you expect to learn from this ??
Go wear a helmet
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scrapedape
Apr 20, 2006, 10:00 PM
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Nice job on the rescue. Thanks for coming in and answering these questions too. One more question: was the leader P2 when he fell, correct?
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crankingclimber
Apr 20, 2006, 11:02 PM
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Scrapedape - Yep, he was on pitch two, although they might have used more depending on how this guy got to where he was, but basically, pitch two.
Majid - You're questions are slightly confusing, and I don't know the answers to the ones I'm not confused on - I'm afraid I wasn't looking extremely closely at his gear and all, partly because he'd fallen and then lowered so far that it was all way above me, and partly because I had more pressing concerns. The guide who got his partner down saw some of the gear, but some of it just got the rope pulled through (not to mention the gear from my rack, as well as an amalgamation of other people's racks that were involved which had to be left), and was collected the next day by some friends of mine (thank god - I got out of leading that monstrous 'route' again, and in a rainstorm to boot). The gear which the guide did see was supposedly pretty awful, which fits in with everything else in the story.
Will
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crankingclimber
Apr 20, 2006, 11:05 PM
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edit - grr, double post
Will
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majid_sabet
Apr 21, 2006, 2:52 AM
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Will
you may want to review this link , any detail information you could remember will assist me on further reports and by the way, I know you guys did a good job, post the additional info here or email me directly.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1273626#1273626
Majid_sabet@hotmail.com
thanks
Majid
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