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reno


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Reno's agenda:

Arrive Flag on Thursday, early evening. Find a place to set up base camp, and commence to the beer consumption.

Friday, climb. Friday evening, eat camp food and drink beer. There will be a 8 quart batch of camp chili cooked in the dutch oven over an open fire one of these nights. And if nobody else shows, then I'll eat all 8 quarts by my damn self. Hillary, you know how troublesome this idea can be.

Saturday/Sunday: Repeat as necessary and able.

I'm heading back to PHX on Sunday, as I have to work on Monday. Though, since I'll be working in Payson, I might just stay Sunday night and save 140+ miles of driving.

We need a decent, easily found, easy to access place to camp. Ideas, anyone?

Camhead: C'mon on down... you can rope gun for me, since I suck more than a $5 hooker on double coupon night.


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Reno's agenda:

Arrive Flag on Thursday, early evening. Find a place to set up base camp, and commence to the beer consumption.

Friday, climb. Friday evening, eat camp food and drink beer. There will be a 8 quart batch of camp chili cooked in the dutch oven over an open fire one of these nights. And if nobody else shows, then I'll eat all 8 quarts by my damn self. Hillary, you know how troublesome this idea can be.

Saturday/Sunday: Repeat as necessary and able.

I'm heading back to PHX on Sunday, as I have to work on Monday. Though, since I'll be working in Payson, I might just stay Sunday night and save 140+ miles of driving.

We need a decent, easily found, easy to access place to camp. Ideas, anyone?

Camhead: C'mon on down... you can rope gun for me, since I suck more than a $5 hooker on double coupon night.
8 quarts of chili? Iiieeee!!!

Too bad I gotta work Friday and will be knee-deep in moving boxes Saturday-day. But you say "we," so you have a pard/traveling partner lined up? Otherwise you gotsta boulder for 2 days! :shock: or put on your sweetest "trawling for partners at the base" face... which won't get you very far if you indulge in the chili the night before.

So yeah, about that chili, hold off til Saturday, and A and I will come down that night (we'll even bring a big hunk of cheese to add to it). JUST DO NOT EAT IT ALL YOURSELF. I don't wanna write the lead story the next day about the Phoenix man who felled a stand of century-old Ponderosas, turned the Lake Mary trout belly up, and ignited a brush fire with his toxic ass.

Maybe you can camp at Fay Canyon? Paradise Forks? Priest Draw? There is SO much FS land here but I don't know the ins and outs yet. Hope a "real" local can clue ya in there ;)


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Sweet, I'm there. Sport, trad, whatever, would be cool. There is decent free camping near Paradise Forks, or if we want to be nearer town and the "scene," there are plenty of spots around Priest's Draw as well.

And if Reno is doing chili, I'll do sourdough biscuits!


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Sweet, I'm there. Sport, trad, whatever, would be cool. There is decent free camping near Paradise Forks, or if we want to be nearer town and the "scene," there are plenty of spots around Priest's Draw as well.

I think it'd be better to be closer to town. You know, in case we decide that people at the local burger and beer joint need to be graced with our presence. ;)

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And if Reno is doing chili, I'll do sourdough biscuits!

Chili on Saturday night it is... I'll make the chili, but BYOB (Bring Your Own Bowl.)


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I wanted to go to the last AZ gathering but the weather didn't cooperate. I can't go to this one b/c I am working in Chicago for a couple months and won't be back by then. Maybe next year.
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Since we didn't have an AZ gathering this year, I'll throw this out there:

Anyone interested in Flagstaff for Sept 22-24? I've got a rare weekend free, and thought it'd be nice to hit the Pit and/or Oak Creek Overlook before it gets too cold.

Open to other ideas, too....

I'll bring the cast iron dutch oven and make a big pot of chili, if bribery will help.

Well, damn. I'll be in Boulder, CO that weekend.

Curt


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Im up for a bit of climbing in Flag on that weekend. Flag has a pretty good temperature right now, though its been raining way to much lately.


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Well, damn. I'll be in Boulder, CO that weekend.

Aw, shit.... would be nice if you could join us. You still owe me some Irish whisky from two years ago when you drank all of mine (or was that BVB?... Either way, you owe me some Irish Whisky.) :)

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Im up for a bit of climbing in Flag on that weekend. Flag has a pretty good temperature right now, though its been raining way to much lately.

More rain = more beer drinking time. I fail to see the problem here? :)


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Since we didn't have an AZ gathering this year, I'll throw this out there:

Anyone interested in Flagstaff for Sept 22-24? I've got a rare weekend free, and thought it'd be nice to hit the Pit and/or Oak Creek Overlook before it gets too cold.

Open to other ideas, too....

I'll bring the cast iron dutch oven and make a big pot of chili, if bribery will help.

Well, damn. I'll be in Boulder, CO that weekend.

Curt

GHEY! BOULDER?

what are you going to be doing, taking your new suburu to the organic market while listening to NP fucking R?


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Since we didn't have an AZ gathering this year, I'll throw this out there:

Anyone interested in Flagstaff for Sept 22-24? I've got a rare weekend free, and thought it'd be nice to hit the Pit and/or Oak Creek Overlook before it gets too cold.

Open to other ideas, too....

I'll bring the cast iron dutch oven and make a big pot of chili, if bribery will help.

Well, damn. I'll be in Boulder, CO that weekend.

Curt

GHEY! BOULDER?

what are you going to be doing, taking your new suburu to the organic market while listening to NP fucking R?

Hey Utard, take all that pent-up hostility out on one of your wives.

Curt


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may i join? :D :D

like to check out Paradise Forks before or after too, if anyone's interested?

sean


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may i join?

Sure.... been a while since we climbed, Sean. JT, almost 2 years ago, IIRC.

C'mon over. You know how to get here?

And we need a camping spot, someone. I can offer a suggestion, but it's not really conducive to a group of more than, oh, 3 tents.


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yup, Feltonian Physics that turned out to be Prepackaged... like oops

and yes, i need directions. haven't climbed in AZ yet. been wanting to. i have Bloom's Castles in the Sand that covers Sedona and Oak Creek Canyon. recently tracked down a copy of the Paradise Forks guide too. lovely cracks


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yup, Feltonian Physics that turned out to be Prepackaged... like oops

Still, it was a nice climb. And most adventures start out with some variation of "ooops."

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and yes, i need directions. haven't climbed in AZ yet. been wanting to. i have Bloom's Castles in the Sand that covers Sedona and Oak Creek Canyon. recently tracked down a copy of the Paradise Forks guide too. lovely cracks

Two options, and you can pick depending on which interstate is easier for you to get to:

I-10 East to Phoenix, then I-17 north to Flagstaff.
I-40 East past Vegas to Flag.

I'll wait another couple days, see if anyone has a camp site idea... then we'll post up directions to that.

If nobody offers a campsite by, oh, Thursday, I'll pick one and put the directions here.

That seem fair?

So far:

Climbsomething (and probably Tucsonalex)
Camhead
Reno
Baja-Java
gripfiender

Anyone else?


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so, yeah, I don't remember any exact campsites, so I'm not sure where we should meet. Maybe climbsomething could go scope something out and let us know?

and bajajava, I'd be stoked to climb at the Forks after the weekend or something...


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Um... camping beta? *cocks head like a dog trying to process human language* There is the actual Forks campgroud. That will be the closest for all you columnar basalt aficionados. I say you commandeer that. It's free, too.

And am I hearing that some peeps will be staying past Sunday? Cos I have Monday off...

Anyhoo, I went to the Forks this weekend and here's a lil something to advance y'alls trip:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=78405


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sounds good, jeff. looking forward to checking out the Overlook, and climbing and hanging with everyone

the Forks after the weekend would be perfect, paul. i'm open to a day or two, or heck, a week. let me know what's good for you


mmm... yes! THAT!! that monday too, hillary, if that works for you


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Ooooooooooooooooooooooh. If this is going to be a crack climbing weekend, I would definately be interested in joining you guys.


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I'm in for one day -- probably Saturday.

Camping -- if we're climbing at the Overlook, there is some really nice open dispersed camping right there. One spot is the gated forest road directly opposite the entrance to the Overlook. If the gate is open, then camping is allowed. This area gets a fair amount of traffic from drunken Mexicans, and I've camped there when the mariachi music has been loud and completely intolerable. On the plus side, it's very easy to find.

My favorite spot is just north of the Overlook just above the ADOT yard off to the east side of 89A. It's the first (I think) gated forest road on the east side of 89A above the ADOt yard. The gate is usually closed, but unless its LOCKED you are allowed to open up and drive in to camp. The road quickly gets to a very open area that could accomodate a lot of knuckle-draggers. If that area looks busy, just keep driving further back. Last time I was there the dirt road was easily passable by 2WD, low clearance vehicles at least to the first open area. There's only one rutted area beyond that that may keep low clearance vehicles from going all the way back to the rim.

There are no facilities at either area, but the second option is usually extremely private and secluded. A big bonus is it's just down the road from Flagstaff proper. Much closer than the camping at the Forks.

Ed


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My favorite spot is just north of the Overlook just above the ADOT yard off to the east side of 89A. It's the first (I think) gated forest road on the east side of 89A above the ADOt yard. The gate is usually closed, but unless its LOCKED you are allowed to open up and drive in to camp. The road quickly gets to a very open area that could accomodate a lot of knuckle-draggers. If that area looks busy, just keep driving further back. Last time I was there the dirt road was easily passable by 2WD, low clearance vehicles at least to the first open area. There's only one rutted area beyond that that may keep low clearance vehicles from going all the way back to the rim.

I like this idea.... close to Oak Creek, close enough to the Pit and Priest Draw, and easy access to the interstate for those wanting to hit the Forks. Shouldn't be too hard for folks to find, too.

Everyone want to vote yea or nay?

And for redlegrangerone: There will indeed be cracks climbed. Forks, of course, but there are good crack systems at Oak Creek. Come on up. Bring beer.

Lastly: I've got space to share a ride from PHX. I'll have my dog, but she rides in the back seat. I was going to leave Thursday evening, but I'm flexible on that, too.


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Being of the non beer drinking persuasion, what is the preferred beer for climbing cracks? :lol:


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BEER. Sometimes I just don't understand men.

Now, a tall boy of Smirnoff Ice...


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Here's another one from this weekend:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=78406

I would like to point out that our fearless leader doesn't have anything in for the first 50 feet or so. I'm not sure if this is by choice or necessity, but either way... yeesh.

I am SO STOKED to hear there will be some Overlook crankin'. It's just so much *friendlier* than the Forks, if you're delicate like me.

Can we get an agenda of sorts going? I want to know who's gonna be where when... this is vital info for climbsnothing's photo-graffin' services.

Is anybody thinking of the Draw or other pebbly places on Saturday, perhaps later in the day?


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Being of the non beer drinking persuasion, what is the preferred beer for climbing cracks?

Well, if you're climbing cracks on loose choss, it's Rolling Rock.


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sweet! I'll be down for doing cracks until tuesday or wednesday. probably stick around the city and do bouldering or spurt climbing for the weekend, and I've NEVER been to the Overlook.

And the preferred beer for crack climbing is Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, in my opinion.

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