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ihategrigris
May 15, 2006, 4:08 AM
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Theres no other way to say this at this point: LEAVE YOUR GODDAMN DOGS AT HOME! I went to a local sport crag the other day, and counted no less than 8 dogs. This is fine, but some of these dogs were out of control, they were barking, running around, fighting with one another (I'm not kidding!), getting into other peoples packs and generally making climbing less pleasent for everyone who was around (and there were probably 40 or 50 people at that particular crag) Please, please PLEASE stop bringing your dogs to the crag, it's a nuissance for the other climbers around and it's boring for your (out of control) dog.
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ebelay
May 15, 2006, 4:11 AM
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Blame the owner, not the dog. Piss off.
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kman
May 15, 2006, 4:14 AM
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What crag were you at? At Grassi there was some dumb fuck there that wouldn't call his dog back, even though it was fucking around with another leashed dog and the leashed dogs owner was trying to get the unleashed dog to fuck off. The owner of the other dog just watched like a moron. Idiot owners own idiot dogs. Good owners own good dogs.
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ihategrigris
May 15, 2006, 4:21 AM
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In reply to: What crag were you at? At Grassi there was some dumb f--- there that wouldn't call his dog back, even though it was f---ing around with another leashed dog and the leashed dogs owner was trying to get the unleashed dog to f--- off. The owner of the other dog just watched like a moron. Idiot owners own idiot dogs. Good owners own good dogs. ' I was at Grassi on Saturday and i think we saw the same dog. IT actually bit another leashed dog right in front of me. To everyone out there, if you can't control your dog, especially when theres dozens of people at the crag, please leave him at home.
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buddha_monkee
May 15, 2006, 4:49 AM
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Wow you are Mr. Tough Guy. You had the perfect opportunity to have a discussion with the dog's owner. The actual owner of the actual dog that was aggravating you. Instead you bravely ran away and posted an inflammatory message on an anonomous message board. Here is an idea for you: Die in a fire.
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pyrrhonota
May 15, 2006, 5:25 AM
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ebelay said
In reply to: Blame the owner, not the dog. I'm pretty sure that is what ihategrigris was doing when he said "leave your dog at home"
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phang_nga
May 15, 2006, 6:07 AM
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In reply to: Wow you are Mr. Tough Guy. You had the perfect opportunity to have a discussion with the dog's owner. The actual owner of the actual dog that was aggravating you. Instead you bravely ran away and posted an inflammatory message on an anonomous message board. Here is an idea for you: . Yes, tell us what you told the dog owners please. If you didn't say anything, then you wasted your time and now ours. Being a life-long dog lover, I can't understand why other people don't like dogs. But I don't think that this is what the original poster was all about. The owner should make sure his/her dogs aren't being a pain in the arse to other people and other pets. ---------------- Properly trained, a man can be dog's best friend. ~Corey Ford
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climbsomething
May 15, 2006, 6:59 AM
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In reply to: ... making climbing less pleasent for everyone who was around (and there were probably 40 or 50 people at that particular crag) Because you can have a pleasant experience with 50 people at one crag, regardless of how many dogs there are around?
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dirtineye
May 15, 2006, 7:07 AM
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Oh, HERE'S a new thread topic!!!!
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codhands
May 15, 2006, 7:27 AM
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MY DOG HATES YOUR EFFIN STINKIN' GUTS!!!!!! Actually I don't have a pooch but if I did you bet your a$$ i'd have his hairy back when came to dealing with buttwholes like you.
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booger
May 15, 2006, 7:32 AM
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:deadhorse: (I couldn't find the :deaddog: emoticon....) :roll:
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gordo
May 15, 2006, 11:03 AM
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In reply to: :deadhorse: (I couldn't find the :deaddog: emoticon....) :roll: Now that's funny right there :lol: I'd be a lot more bothered by the 50 climbers...I bring my dog sometimes, but then I very rarely see other parties, a busy day at Zoo wall maybe, but I don't bring my dog there :roll:
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anykineclimb
May 15, 2006, 11:40 AM
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WOW! B must be HUGE! or thats a size two shoe there...
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acacongua
May 15, 2006, 12:22 PM
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In reply to: Wow you are Mr. Tough Guy. You had the perfect opportunity to have a discussion with the dog's owner. The actual owner of the actual dog that was aggravating you. Instead you bravely ran away and posted an inflammatory message on an anonomous message board. Here is an idea for you: Die in a fire. I think it's very sad that this guy had to say anything at all - either on a forum or in person.
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May 15, 2006, 12:35 PM
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In reply to: (and there were probably 40 or 50 people at that particular crag). I hate crowds at the crags. Can we get rid of those too? I think that would solve the dog problems.
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rhythm164
May 15, 2006, 12:38 PM
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That's it, next time I see you, I'm going to instruct my dog to poop on your rack!! Just kidding, I hear what you're saying, and to a certain extent I agree. I don't bring my dog to the crag, but I don't really have a problem with those who do, unless the dog is out of control like you said. But then the problem is with the owner, because the dog is just being, you know, a dog.
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wonderwoman
May 15, 2006, 5:18 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: (and there were probably 40 or 50 people at that particular crag). I hate crowds at the crags. Can we get rid of those too? I think that would sove the dog problems. Yes... Did the OP approach the 40 or 50 people and ask them to go home? Why did he have to write about it in a forum?
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May 15, 2006, 5:45 PM
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In reply to: WOW! B must be HUGE! or thats a size two shoe there... Yep! That's a 10.5 shoe. He tips the scales around 130. It's a good thing he's so nice! http://img469.imageshack.us/...tonatbaseoflj1sa.png Breakin the law, breakin the law! Ranger lookout on Lions Jaw.
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wjca
May 15, 2006, 5:58 PM
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In reply to: What crag were you at? At Grassi there was some dumb f--- there that wouldn't call his dog back, even though it was f---ing around with another leashed dog and the leashed dogs owner was trying to get the unleashed dog to fuck off. The owner of the other dog just watched like a moron. Idiot owners own idiot dogs. Good owners own good dogs. Please explain how one goes about trying to get a dog to fuck off. I gotta know.
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mowz
May 15, 2006, 6:04 PM
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What about those who don't like dogs? No one ever considers the climber who just doesn't like dogs. For whatever reason, everyone, even non-dog owners, thinks that you should have to put up with dogs at the crag. I call bullshit. Owners should think about what it's like for those who don't appreciate dogs at the crag and act accordingly. This is a perfect analogy: smoking vs. non-smoking. Most dog owners are acting just like those who feel that smoking is their God given right (it is) and they should be able to smoke where they want because of their right. What about those who don't smoke and those who don't want the second-hand cancer that your cancer stick is expelling? What about the rights of non-smokers who have to right to breathe clean cancer-free air? What about the rights of those who don't like dogs? They get no say on who is around their space? I have never met a dog that has kept completely silent, not gotten in my way, or just not been a nuisance for those around it. You pro-bring-your-dog-to-the-crag-people don't think about the fact that there are those who just don't like dogs. You ask us, "What so hard about moving to another area? What's so hard about putting up with it? What's so hard about accepting the fact that there are going to be dogs?" I ask you, "What's so hard about leaving your dog at home? What's so hard about leaving your dog in your backyard or asking someone else to look after your dog?" Sure, I can go somewhere else, but you can leave your dog at home. Me? I don't like dogs. Why? I've had bad experiences. Why don't you like cats? Why don't you like snakes? Don't those two questions sound stupid? People just don't like certain things. Get over it. Now, people are going to respond by telling me to get over it. I'll get over it when you leave your animals at home.
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csproul
May 15, 2006, 6:13 PM
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^^^#1) Do you expect anyone to take you seriously with that going on? And #2) As long as smokers are picking up their butts... I guess there isn't a damn thing you can do about them at the crags either.
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May 15, 2006, 6:50 PM
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RE: Perfect anology Smokers can smoke as long as the smoke doesn't pollute anyone else's air and they pick up their butts. People can bring dogs to the crags as long as they don't invade other people's space and they pick up the poo. If someone doesn't live up to their responsibilities address them, don't try to ban it altogether. Duh. According to the post above smokers (or at least smoking) should be banned at the crags too. Welcome to 1984.
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kman
May 15, 2006, 6:56 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: What crag were you at? At Grassi there was some dumb f--- there that wouldn't call his dog back, even though it was f---ing around with another leashed dog and the leashed dogs owner was trying to get the unleashed dog to f--- off. The owner of the other dog just watched like a moron. Idiot owners own idiot dogs. Good owners own good dogs. Please explain how one goes about trying to get a dog to f--- off. I gotta know. "shoe, go away, scram, go...ect ect." Sorry if it's too much for you to understand :?
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omerdimsum
May 15, 2006, 7:08 PM
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My occassional frustration is working through dog allergies. I suppose allergies are one's own challenge. But effects can range from climbing performance to health issues.
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