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thisflash
Jun 4, 2006, 3:15 PM
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In reply to: Plenty of people complain about "animals" in the woods. And if they complain enough the powers that be shoot the animals.
So if I complain enough, I can get a ranger to shoot your dog? Or are you making a distinction between animals and dogs? I can see why you might do that because from the looks of it, you have some strange obsession with your dog.
In reply to: It boils down to the fact that you are outside... f---ing stop b---- and deal with it! How is it any different when a squirrel takes your lunch than a dog? It is still YOUR fault for not protecting YOUR s---.
It's different because a dog can be trained to stay out of other people's packs. Or better yet, left at home. I think I'll tell the next person whose dog gets into my stuff to just "deal with it" after their dog gets kicked in the throat.
People and their f**king dogs...
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weschrist
Jun 5, 2006, 2:29 AM
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In reply to: I haven't done Hospital Corner in a few years
Never done Hospital Corner. Should be doing it pretty soon.
In reply to: Have you ever done, Labor of Love, on the East Wall?
Just the first pitch... just this side of concerning... but what a blast!
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weschrist
Jun 5, 2006, 2:36 AM
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In reply to: Dog owners treat pets like kids who are never to be trained or disciplined. Ie their pets are people to them and more important then non family members. Bringing a dog to the crags is selfish and neglectful of the dog, because the dog is bored, hot and forced to lie in one place while the owner has fun. Dog owners expect the whole climbing community to adopt their pet, like parents with screaming unruly brats expect others to love their offspring, and smokers expect non smokers to love cig buts and smoke.
You are a fucking moron.
1) My dog is not a kid and is no more important than any other living creature who deserves the pursuit of happiness base solely on the fact that he exists.
2) Bringing my dog to the crag is the best thing I can do for him. He stays entertained with the lizards or chipmonks, stays cool by laying in the river, and if by one place you mean within a 5 mile radius... then yeah, I'm guilty.
3) I don't expect anyone to adopt my pet. In fact, leave Willie alone, he can take care of himself. If he wants to say hi to you, he will. If you are an asshole (which you are), he won't want to say hi to you so nobody will have any problems.
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weschrist
Jun 5, 2006, 2:37 AM
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In reply to: Dog owners treat pets like kids who are never to be trained or disciplined. Ie their pets are people to them and more important then non family members. Bringing a dog to the crags is selfish and neglectful of the dog, because the dog is bored, hot and forced to lie in one place while the owner has fun. Dog owners expect the whole climbing community to adopt their pet, like parents with screaming unruly brats expect others to love their offspring, and smokers expect non smokers to love cig buts and smoke.
You are a fucking moron.
1) My dog is not a kid and is no more important than any other living creature who deserves the pursuit of happiness base solely on the fact that he exists.
2) Bringing my dog to the crag is the best thing I can do for him. He stays entertained with the lizards or chipmonks, stays cool by laying in the river, and if by one place you mean within a 5 mile radius... then yeah, I'm guilty.
3) I don't expect anyone to adopt my pet. In fact, leave Willie alone, he can take care of himself. If he wants to say hi to you, he will. If you are an asshole (which you are), he won't want to say hi to you so nobody will have any problems.
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themightyjimbo
Jun 5, 2006, 4:10 AM
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No.
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weschrist
Jun 5, 2006, 4:24 AM
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In reply to: I think I'll tell the next person whose dog gets into my stuff to just "deal with it" after their dog gets kicked in the throat.
Oh GOD I wish I still lived in SLC and you tried that shit! Tough guy hiding behind an aliass.
Seriously, kicking a dog in the troat for a fucking sammich? You fucking pussy!
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secretninja
Jun 5, 2006, 5:20 AM
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[quote="weschrist"]In reply to: You are a f---ing moron. 1) My dog is not a kid and is no more important than any other living creature who deserves the pursuit of happiness base solely on the fact that he exists. 2) Bringing my dog to the crag is the best thing I can do for him. He stays entertained with the lizards or chipmonks, stays cool by laying in the river, and if by one place you mean within a 5 mile radius... then yeah, I'm guilty.
As a dog owner, i understand your desire bring out your dog to the crag on what you view as a nice afternoon in the sun. Which is your business if your dog is tied up or otherwise restrained. However, after being approached by a loose dog as wasooch slabs last season and being bitten in the calf (hard enough to draw blood) without provocation, you have to understand why some people might go on the offensive rather than be nipped. By the way, i was also belaying at the time, so should the climber up the route taken a whipper, i couldn't have said for sure i would have them. The owner claimed that it was the first incident, and with an animal, here is no guarantees. All i have to say is that if you do bring your dog, keep him tied, or don't bring him at all.
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fanfoui
Jun 5, 2006, 8:30 AM
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I don't mind if you bring your dog to the crag...as long as it's dead
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fanfoui
Jun 5, 2006, 8:31 AM
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I don't mind if you bring your dog to the crag...as long as it's dead :twisted:
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clee03m
Jun 5, 2006, 12:40 PM
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So what happened with the bite? I have three dogs and they are like my babies, but as I understand, the animal has to be sacrificed to ensure that they don't have rabies. Did you take the owner's word that the dog had vaccinations? Wow, just reading about this dog bite really makes me shudder to think what would happen to both the victom and the dog.
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csproul
Jun 5, 2006, 12:59 PM
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Went to the crag this weekend and there were at least five dogs running around...and guess what, they were all great. I played with a couple of them, petted all of them. They had fun, I had fun. Thanks to whoever brought their dogs to Moore's (NC) this weekend, I enjoyed them.
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phazed
Jun 5, 2006, 2:00 PM
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In reply to: Tough guy hiding behind an aliass.
You're doing the same thing :roll:
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colkurtz
Jun 5, 2006, 2:20 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Tough guy hiding behind an aliass. You're doing the same thing :roll:
uh, he's not threatening a dog. dumbass.
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devils_advocate
Jun 5, 2006, 4:09 PM
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In reply to: ...but as I understand, the animal has to be sacrificed to ensure that they don't have rabies.
Huh?
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phazed
Jun 5, 2006, 4:44 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Tough guy hiding behind an aliass. You're doing the same thing :roll: uh, he's not threatening a dog. dumbass.
no but hes threatining the guy if something were to happen to his dog
dare I add "dumbass" to the end of this?
no...I wont sink to your level :roll:
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colkurtz
Jun 5, 2006, 5:02 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Tough guy hiding behind an aliass. You're doing the same thing :roll: uh, he's not threatening a dog. dumbass. no but hes threatining the guy if something were to happen to his dog dare I add "dumbass" to the end of this? no...I wont sink to your level :roll:
Ok mr. nu school.
Get this. He wasn’t threatening him.
And yo, yo check it,
People who don’t like dogs, or are scared of them, are seriously in need of help.
dumbass
Dog owners who don’t teach their dogs to socialize appropriately with humans or who neglect their dog(s), are in need of owners themselves.
People who complain about others who treat their dogs as people are, likely, jealous.
dumbass
I am, actually, envious, in many respects, of my dog.
I have stood between rock throwers and dogs (not my own). People who think it is ok to hurt living beings should know that there are people who will stop them.
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flatstateclimber
Jun 5, 2006, 5:48 PM
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Last weekend, I was in Tennessee climbing. Seems like everyone had their dogs with them. All of them were friendly with people. All but 2 of them were not friendly with other dogs. Saturday morning, they picked a fight (they were off-leash of course) with one black lab. Snarling and clawing, I'm belaying. Certainly distracted all the climbers within earshot. Owner was belaying. Didn't have much of a care, didn't apologize for it.
So for the rest of the weekend, I spent time warning the conscientious dog-owners about that pair and their aggressive streak. If you know your dog is aggressive with other dogs, leave the mutt at home, especially on a busy weekend at a popular crag.
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clee03m
Jun 5, 2006, 6:20 PM
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If bitten by rabid dog, you have to be treated right away, and the only way to ensure a dog does not have rabies is to do an autopsy of it's brain. Another incentive to leave aggresive dogs at home (I guess unless you want to carry their vaccination records with you).
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phazed
Jun 5, 2006, 7:37 PM
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In reply to: Ok mr. nu school. Get this. He wasn’t threatening him. And yo, yo check it
Get this. He was threatining him.
Its funny watching people get angry over the internet. :lol:
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andrew_i
Jun 5, 2006, 7:47 PM
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In reply to: If bitten by rabid dog, you have to be treated right away, and the only way to ensure a dog does not have rabies is to do an autopsy of it's brain. Another incentive to leave aggresive dogs at home (I guess unless you want to carry their vaccination records with you).
Like a rabies tag?
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hellsbellsrn
Jun 5, 2006, 9:13 PM
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Being a dog lover and owner who has brought my dog to the crag I know what a joy it is to have your buddy there with you, but i can also see the other side of the argument. I feel the answer to both sides of this argument is there is one person to blame for bad dog experiences, and that is the dog owner. YOu don't have to pass a test to be a dog owner, and frankly some owner's are idiots and can't take care of themself, nevermind a living creature. This is where responsible people like most who have posted here need to say, "hey your dog is posing a threat to the dogs who are behaving and to all who are climbing"...posting your concerns here will most likely not have an effect if you don't act on them.
What sickens me is someone saying they would "kick a dog in the throat" for going into their pack or disturbing their climbing. I have one thing to say to all that feel that way about crag dogs....12-16$ a day pass...stick to the indoor climbing scene. You are obviously too unstable to be climbing outdoors.
That is my 2 cents...bring your dog to the crag because you will be able to climb and spend time with them...don't bring them because you feel guilty leaving them home while working on your multi pitch project.
heth
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ullr
Jun 5, 2006, 9:24 PM
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How many dog threads does RC.com need?
Why don't you dog haters use the SEARCH function. There are plenty of threads on this beaten subject.
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devils_advocate
Jun 5, 2006, 10:57 PM
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In reply to: How many dog threads does RC.com need?
Not enough if you ask me. I only saw 3 on the front page, so I made one called Bad Dog. Bad. and shot for four. Alas, it seems that community doesn't make it to the front page.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/topic/114123
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weschrist
Jun 6, 2006, 2:56 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Tough guy hiding behind an aliass. You're doing the same thing :roll: uh, he's not threatening a dog. dumbass. no but hes threatining the guy if something were to happen to his dog
No, I'm calling out someone who is lame enough to consider kicking a dog less than 1/4 his weight in the throat for potentially sniffing his pack.
My name is Wes Christensen (hardly an alias) and I live in South Lake Tahoe, CA. Feel free to look me up.
p.s. if my dog DID go through your pack (which has never happened) and you weren't a complete ass about it, I would gladly treat you to a nice meal and a few beers at a nice resturant.
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secretninja
Jun 6, 2006, 3:04 AM
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In reply to: So what happened with the bite? I have three dogs and they are like my babies, but as I understand, the animal has to be sacrificed to ensure that they don't have rabies. Did you take the owner's word that the dog had vaccinations? Wow, just reading about this dog bite really makes me shudder to think what would happen to both the victom and the dog.
The owner assured me the vaccinations were up to date and offered documentation. The point i was trying to make was that out of the thousands of times the dog interacted with people before, there was no problems. However, i was the unlucky one who met the dog on a bad day. My dogs in the past have been nothing but sweethearts with both adults and children, but i don't think its fair to the other climbers to take that gamble because even the best trained/socialized dogs have bad days. Even allowing friendly dog to roam who jumps up at an inopportune moment on a belayer is inviting disaster. Tie your dog. IF you want to take your dog out for a stroll, go for a hike.
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