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climbsomething
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Nothing screams "I'm poor" like an American who travels to Thailand to climb rocks.
Or a guy who is gonna go on a cruise with his parents and is concerned about the on-ship climbing wall.
Yep, you're too poor but most importantly too real for that fruityass backpacker's underwear.
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sungam
Sep 9, 2008, 5:16 PM
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wonderwoman wrote: Just don't fall on slab.
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patmay81
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I wear $10 Walmart cargo pants and a Hanes t shirt- occasionally one of my grandpas old logging shirts if its cool out.
Usually when I see people at the crag wearing Prana, Patagonia, or NorthFace they either make their living climbing (guides/instructors), or they are yuppies who only climb once or twice a year outside a gym.
I do agree that it is dumb to spend a lot of money on clothes that are just going to get trashed thrutching up some dirty crack, but I wont bag on the yuppies for what they wear- if they can afford to trash a $200 pair of pataguchi pants every trip to the crag, more power to them!
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dingus
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ckirkwood9 wrote: it's got little to do with climbing better or looking a certain way... it's all about function and comfort. People who've not worn/used technical gear don't understand until they've actually tried it. I used to snowboard in a thick cotton hoodie, scorning all those snobs who wore "fancy" wicking tops and breathable shells and pants.... i was fine in my soaking wet cotton hoodie and old-school 5-dollar-wallmart hunter's waffle-thermals ... UNTIL i received a pair of thermax base layers and a technical fleece with pit zips as a gift. The first time i stopped for lunch and realized that i was DRY and didn't have to peel a cotton layer off my wet body.. i realized how ridiculous it was that i was judging all those 'posers'. There's a reason prana sells so well... the sheite works! Try on a pair of stretchy prana pants with a gusseted crotch then do a hanging belay and you'll immediately KNOW the difference.... your nutz won't be split in two by the seam in the middle (like they are by a pair of cheap pair of cargo pants from the Old Navy) and the legs won't get stuck on your knees every time you try to high-step. Sure there are posers out there who don't climb but like to look the part but so what... for as many posers there are, there are hard-core climbes who like to be comfortable, dry and not look like a homeless person. *laugh* Besides if the cost is the issue... hit up rei, ems, gear-x or any of the web stores every now and again and you'll eventually find all the supposedly poser-gear on super sale. I've never paid more than $30 for mountain hardware or prana pants. and just to support his thought: check this out: prana knickers retail for 60, on sale for 30. http://www.ems.com/..._id=2534374302889362 garamacci pants retail 60 sale 30 http://www.ems.com/..._id=2534374302889362 ems crag pants retail 50 sale 23 http://www.ems.com/..._id=2534374302889362 men's ems techwick shirt retail 35 sale 15. (you can't get a decent t-shirt for 15, let alone something tech) http://www.ems.com/..._id=2534374302889362 you MAY have to buy stuff off season tho. Try it once... you'll feel the difference. Will you suddenly climb a 5.12, of course not ... BUT you WILL be damn comfortable when you try!
A wee bit defensive?
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ckirkwood9
Sep 9, 2008, 5:20 PM
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*laugh*.... of course once a non-poser swaps out their froot-of-the-looms for a pair of frooty Ex-Officio Wicking undies and realizes that they don't need to have clamy-ass... they'll be a believer.
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Valarc
Sep 9, 2008, 5:49 PM
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climbsomething wrote: Nothing screams "I'm poor" like an American who travels to Thailand to climb rocks. Or a guy who is gonna go on a cruise with his parents and is concerned about the on-ship climbing wall. Yep, you're too poor but most importantly too real for that fruityass backpacker's underwear.
Best reply yet. You win 9000 internets.
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Valarc
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shockabuku wrote: Valarc wrote: When wearing loose garments, I've gotten my gigantic balls squished by a harness on several occasions. Either your leg loops are too loose or those things aren't as big as you think. 
How can I put this delicately?
Oh, fuck delicately...
There are two main kinds of testicular squishage that can occur. One is between the leg loops and the leg. This is the type that can occur if your loops are too loose. However, there is a second type, that is what I like to call the "push pop" effect. This is when you're wearing loose clothing which allows your yambag to shift around, and your sack gets squeezed between your two leg loops, pulling it down and away from your body. If everything is kept high and tight, your meatsack won't get low enough to get sucked betwixt the leg loops of genital mutilation, but if you're freeballin it, there is always the opportunity for things to go horribly, horribly wrong.
Unless you have tiny balls, which I suggest may be your source of confusion on this matter.
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markc
Sep 9, 2008, 6:23 PM
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rtwilli4 wrote: shockabuku wrote: I suppose you're a damn Republican/Democrat. Take your pick, they both like to tell me what to do with my money. it's a waste of time to be either one of those.
Off-topic, but I'll bite. I live in a closed primary state. In closed primaries, you can only vote for a candidate from your party. If you're registered as independent, it means you're sitting on the sidelines for a part of the process. If you live in a closed-primary state, it makes sense to be registered with one of the two major parties regardless of your political views.
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dingus
Sep 9, 2008, 6:24 PM
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Hmmm, with such large balls WHY THE HARNESS???
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rtwilli4
Sep 9, 2008, 6:24 PM
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climbsomething wrote: Nothing screams "I'm poor" like an American who travels to Thailand to climb rocks. Or a guy who is gonna go on a cruise with his parents and is concerned about the on-ship climbing wall. Yep, you're too poor but most importantly too real for that fruityass backpacker's underwear.
I WORK in Thailand bro. I make just enough money to pay for my plane ticket. Then I go work for cash in London to be with my girlfriend and barely pay for that plane ticket. Then I come to the states and do landscaping and barely make enough money to climb a bit while I'm here.
Yea... my parents took my family on a cruise but that's their money, not mine. I only went because it was the last family vacation I'll ever have with them. I have a college degree that I (notice how I said I) paid for. I'm not in any debt, and could get a good job whenever I want. Fact is, I don't want to live in this plastic country full of clones and pay taxes to a government that only cares about taking care of their friends and tries to pass it off as being the leader of the free world.
Say what you want, but I'm not vacationing... I'm opting out of this fake existence that so many americans blindly fall into. In three years I'll have citizenship in the UK AND the Philippines and living in paradise while most of the people on this site will be working 9 to 5 so they can look cool in their name brands that they got on sale.
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rtwilli4
Sep 9, 2008, 6:26 PM
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markc wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: shockabuku wrote: I suppose you're a damn Republican/Democrat. Take your pick, they both like to tell me what to do with my money. it's a waste of time to be either one of those. Off-topic, but I'll bite. I live in a closed primary state. In closed primaries, you can only vote for a candidate from your party. If you're registered as independent, it means you're sitting on the sidelines for a part of the process. If you live in a closed-primary state, it makes sense to be registered with one of the two major parties regardless of your political views.
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markc
Sep 9, 2008, 6:27 PM
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extreme_actuary wrote: I go all out when it comes to climbing clothing. When you look good, you feel good. And when you feel good, you climb good. A nice warm vest like this helps also: 
That makes sense. Why reach behind you to chalk up when you can just shake some in those little pockets?
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dingus
Sep 9, 2008, 6:28 PM
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rtwilli4 wrote: climbsomething wrote: Nothing screams "I'm poor" like an American who travels to Thailand to climb rocks. Or a guy who is gonna go on a cruise with his parents and is concerned about the on-ship climbing wall. Yep, you're too poor but most importantly too real for that fruityass backpacker's underwear. I WORK in Thailand bro. I make just enough money to pay for my plane ticket. Then I go work in for cash in London to be with my girlfriend and barely pay for that plane ticket. Then I come to the states and do landscaping and barely make enough money to climb a bit while I'm here. Yea... my parents took my family on a cruise but that's their money, not mine. I only went because it was the last family vacation I'll ever have with them. I have a college degree that I (notice how I said I) paid for. I'm not in any debt, and could get a good job whenever I want. Fact is, I don't want to live in this plastic country full of clones and pay taxes to a government that only cares about taking care of their friends and tries to pass it off as being the leader of the free world. Say what you want, but I'm not vacationing... I'm opting out of this fake existence that so many americans blindly fall into. In three years I'll have citizenship in the UK AND the Philippines and living in paradise while most of the people on this site will be working 9 to 5 so they can look cool in their name brands that they got on sale.
Wow! WANKING on the ROAD TO NIRVANA!
Who KNEW???!!!111
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ps. Well done btw. Have a nice life.
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Valarc
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dingus wrote: Hmmm, with such large balls WHY THE HARNESS???
Because I need something to use to belay the chick who's climbing with me. I tried just wrapping the rope around my giant pouch of man-gravy, but she was so distracted in awe that she couldn't focus on the rock.
Also, I need a place to clip the Spirit carabiner that holds my keys. Gotta keep it real, brosef.
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markc
Sep 9, 2008, 6:28 PM
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rtwilli4 wrote: markc wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: shockabuku wrote: I suppose you're a damn Republican/Democrat. Take your pick, they both like to tell me what to do with my money. it's a waste of time to be either one of those. Off-topic, but I'll bite. I live in a closed primary state. In closed primaries, you can only vote for a candidate from your party. If you're registered as independent, it means you're sitting on the sidelines for a part of the process. If you live in a closed-primary state, it makes sense to be registered with one of the two major parties regardless of your political views. That makes sense... as I live in a closed primary state as well. However, I think you completely missed my point.
Fine. What's your point?
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rtwilli4
Sep 9, 2008, 6:38 PM
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markc wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: markc wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: shockabuku wrote: I suppose you're a damn Republican/Democrat. Take your pick, they both like to tell me what to do with my money. it's a waste of time to be either one of those. Off-topic, but I'll bite. I live in a closed primary state. In closed primaries, you can only vote for a candidate from your party. If you're registered as independent, it means you're sitting on the sidelines for a part of the process. If you live in a closed-primary state, it makes sense to be registered with one of the two major parties regardless of your political views. That makes sense... as I live in a closed primary state as well. However, I think you completely missed my point. Fine. What's your point?
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markc
Sep 9, 2008, 6:41 PM
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rtwilli4 wrote: climbsomething wrote: Nothing screams "I'm poor" like an American who travels to Thailand to climb rocks. Or a guy who is gonna go on a cruise with his parents and is concerned about the on-ship climbing wall. Yep, you're too poor but most importantly too real for that fruityass backpacker's underwear. I WORK in Thailand bro. I make just enough money to pay for my plane ticket. Then I go work for cash in London to be with my girlfriend and barely pay for that plane ticket. Then I come to the states and do landscaping and barely make enough money to climb a bit while I'm here. Yea... my parents took my family on a cruise but that's their money, not mine. I only went because it was the last family vacation I'll ever have with them. I have a college degree that I (notice how I said I) paid for. I'm not in any debt, and could get a good job whenever I want. Fact is, I don't want to live in this plastic country full of clones and pay taxes to a government that only cares about taking care of their friends and tries to pass it off as being the leader of the free world. Say what you want, but I'm not vacationing... I'm opting out of this fake existence that so many americans blindly fall into. In three years I'll have citizenship in the UK AND the Philippines and living in paradise while most of the people on this site will be working 9 to 5 so they can look cool in their name brands that they got on sale.
I get it. You're in the, "I'm way too fucking hip to be cool, bro!" camp. I'm a relatively new member of the, "I'm old to worry about it, chief!" camp. The beauty and struggle of life is that we all have to determine what brings us joy (and thus what is of value). You may find that you don't have to degrade the choices of others to promote your own. Then again, you may not.
So tell me, do you climb on the cheapest possible climbing gear? You know, name-brand cams dangling off people's harnesses really screams bourgeoisie. Czech-made cams are the symbol of the proletariat.
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rtwilli4 wrote: climbsomething wrote: Nothing screams "I'm poor" like an American who travels to Thailand to climb rocks. Or a guy who is gonna go on a cruise with his parents and is concerned about the on-ship climbing wall. Yep, you're too poor but most importantly too real for that fruityass backpacker's underwear. I WORK in Thailand bro. I make just enough money to pay for my plane ticket. Then I go work for cash in London to be with my girlfriend and barely pay for that plane ticket. Then I come to the states and do landscaping and barely make enough money to climb a bit while I'm here. Yea... my parents took my family on a cruise but that's their money, not mine. I only went because it was the last family vacation I'll ever have with them. I have a college degree that I (notice how I said I) paid for. I'm not in any debt, and could get a good job whenever I want. Fact is, I don't want to live in this plastic country full of clones and pay taxes to a government that only cares about taking care of their friends and tries to pass it off as being the leader of the free world. Say what you want, but I'm not vacationing... I'm opting out of this fake existence that so many americans blindly fall into. In three years I'll have citizenship in the UK AND the Philippines and living in paradise while most of the people on this site will be working 9 to 5 so they can look cool in their name brands that they got on sale.
I can't help but think of 'Into the Wild'. Only I hope there's a happier ending!
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nice, sweet threads man! bet you can climb splitter in those pants!
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rtwilli4
Sep 9, 2008, 6:50 PM
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markc wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: climbsomething wrote: Nothing screams "I'm poor" like an American who travels to Thailand to climb rocks. Or a guy who is gonna go on a cruise with his parents and is concerned about the on-ship climbing wall. Yep, you're too poor but most importantly too real for that fruityass backpacker's underwear. I WORK in Thailand bro. I make just enough money to pay for my plane ticket. Then I go work for cash in London to be with my girlfriend and barely pay for that plane ticket. Then I come to the states and do landscaping and barely make enough money to climb a bit while I'm here. Yea... my parents took my family on a cruise but that's their money, not mine. I only went because it was the last family vacation I'll ever have with them. I have a college degree that I (notice how I said I) paid for. I'm not in any debt, and could get a good job whenever I want. Fact is, I don't want to live in this plastic country full of clones and pay taxes to a government that only cares about taking care of their friends and tries to pass it off as being the leader of the free world. Say what you want, but I'm not vacationing... I'm opting out of this fake existence that so many americans blindly fall into. In three years I'll have citizenship in the UK AND the Philippines and living in paradise while most of the people on this site will be working 9 to 5 so they can look cool in their name brands that they got on sale. I get it. You're in the, "I'm way too fucking hip to be cool, bro!" camp. I'm a relatively new member of the, "I'm old to worry about it, chief!" camp. The beauty and struggle of life is that we all have to determine what brings us joy (and thus what is of value). You may find that you don't have to degrade the choices of others to promote your own. Then again, you may not. So tell me, do you climb on the cheapest possible climbing gear? You know, name-brand cams dangling off people's harnesses really screams bourgeoisie. Czech-made cams are the symbol of the proletariat.
You know, I'm not trying to say that there is anything wrong with having money, and/or choosing to spend it on nice clothes. I was simply commenting on the guy who we ALL know who busts his ass just to look the part. It's just not what this sport is about. At least it's not what this sport used to be about.
I get pissed sometimes and say/write dumb stuff but I think most of the people on here knew what my original post was getting at and decided to give me shit anyways, even if they understood what I was talking about.
And for the record:
No, I don't buy the cheapest gear possible. I work to get what I want and pray that some asshole won't book it. I understand this goes the same for clothes.
I 'm asking for it here, but I even have one pair of expensive pants. My point was not that it's dumb to buy expensive clothes or that they are not worth it. I know they are better for what we do. My point was that I don't like seeing people buy them just to look like a climber and I think we can all agree with that.
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wonderwoman wrote: I can't help but think of 'Into the Wild'. Only I hope there's a happier ending!
I never said i was going to go live by myself and I certainly won't go burning my money. I got my degree because I plan on using it someday and I would never leave so many people that loved me as that kid selfishly did.
But I think the guy made some good points. Did you read the book?
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Valarc wrote: dingus wrote: Hmmm, with such large balls WHY THE HARNESS??? Because I need something to use to belay the chick who's climbing with me. I tried just wrapping the rope around my giant pouch of man-gravy, but she was so distracted in awe that she couldn't focus on the rock. Also, I need a place to clip the Spirit carabiner that holds my keys. Gotta keep it real, brosef.
Suck it up, cupcake, and pull yr swami out of the closet. Better yet, tie in with a boac.
Nothing screams yuppie gymbo eurotrash poseur worse than a harness.
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rtwilli4 wrote: wonderwoman wrote: I can't help but think of 'Into the Wild'. Only I hope there's a happier ending! I never said i was going to go live by myself and I certainly won't go burning my money. But I think the guy made some good points. Did you read the book?
A long, long time ago... And,
rtwilli4 wrote: My point was that I don't like seeing people buy them just to look like a climber and I think we can all agree with that.
Why do you care what other people wear? Why not just climb?
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