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Lazlo
Sep 11, 2008, 3:11 PM
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How lame is that?
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Lazlo
Sep 11, 2008, 3:12 PM
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I'm going back to work now.
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wonderwoman
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dingus wrote: Maddhatter wrote: kranney wrote: I do read the labels on every food product I buy. Like I said in my initial post local and organic is the most desirable to me, then local, then organic. So i read labels and try to make the best decisions accordingly. Right on. As it should be. Most people never even look at the back of the bags to see there from china! lol You can thank democrats for those labels. Republicans fought and continue to fight local, state and national labelling regulations. Most recently they have fought to protect McDonald's ability to sell 1000 calorie milkshakes to unsuspecting customers. Read the label... and thank a democrat. DMT
Or, thank Ralph Nader for that and other many health and safety regulations.
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stymingersfink
Sep 11, 2008, 4:03 PM
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FAIL!!!!!!
(keep it in scummunity, you're less likely to get the tarpit!)
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zeke_sf
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rtwilli4 wrote: that's kind of the answer i was looking for. we could probably hang out. I hate wal-mart and certainly understand the benefit (to me and the environment) of buying clothes at outdoor shops.
"we could probably hang out"? I see, it's all about people meeting the criterion on your cool-o-meter. Geez, I sure hope you bought your karbon kredits (along with the accompanying certificate of eco-thenticity cum catholic absolution) to offset your smoggy footsteps across the sky. You and your friends have been busy sucking each others' junk in front of the beach fire for too long, my friend. Those unaccustomed to the taste may need a sweeter sauce than self-righteousness before they open their ears to what you are saying, much less their mouths.
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wonderwoman
Sep 11, 2008, 4:05 PM
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kranney wrote: I do read the labels on every food product I buy. Like I said in my initial post local and organic is the most desirable to me, then local, then organic. So i read labels and try to make the best decisions accordingly. I'm not saying I wont eat things that aren't local, organic or any combination there of. The majority of the produce I buy comes from my local farmers market, at least when its in season, but I am guilty of buying avocados from Chile and bananas from costa rica on occasion. I think my point was that I try to be mindful and aware of where my money is being spent.
I'm with you! We have a share from a local organic farm and it looks like we won't be needing to buy veggies all winter at this rate. Even though we share our share! Also just started baking my own bread, so I know most of the ingredients that I eat and can avoid the high fructose corn syrup that they seem to sneak into everything!
I admit to a banana and avacado need, though! Can't get those things in New England. Go figure!
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wonderwoman
Sep 11, 2008, 4:12 PM
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stymingersfink wrote: FAIL!!!!!!
(keep it in scummunity, you're less likely to get the tarpit!)
WAIT!!! WAIT!!! Let me try!
PTFTW!!!!
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wonderwoman
Sep 11, 2008, 4:13 PM
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wonderwoman wrote: stymingersfink wrote: FAIL!!!!!!
(keep it in scummunity, you're less likely to get the tarpit!)WAIT!!! WAIT!!! Let me try! PTFTW!!!!
Rats!!!
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donald949
Sep 11, 2008, 4:37 PM
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wonderwoman wrote: kranney wrote: I do read the labels on every food product I buy. Like I said in my initial post local and organic is the most desirable to me, then local, then organic. So i read labels and try to make the best decisions accordingly. I'm not saying I wont eat things that aren't local, organic or any combination there of. The majority of the produce I buy comes from my local farmers market, at least when its in season, but I am guilty of buying avocados from Chile and bananas from costa rica on occasion. I think my point was that I try to be mindful and aware of where my money is being spent. I'm with you! We have a share from a local organic farm and it looks like we won't be needing to buy veggies all winter at this rate. Even though we share our share! Also just started baking my own bread, so I know most of the ingredients that I eat and can avoid the high fructose corn syrup that they seem to sneak into everything! I admit to a banana and avacado need, though! Can't get those things in New England. Go figure!
Yea whats up with high fructose corn syrup in everything?
I also admit getting avacados from Cali now and again. Got to have fresh guac, know what I mean.
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kranney
Sep 11, 2008, 9:06 PM
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I hate high fructose corn syrup and it seems to work its way into almost every product on the shelves these days. It must be economically viable because it is in everything from bread to soup to most drinks with flavor.
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Maddhatter
Sep 11, 2008, 9:12 PM
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It's just a sugar for gods sake.
Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use.
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granite_grrl
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Maddhatter wrote: It's just a sugar for gods sake. Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use.
Its pretty nasty stuff. Now, to make thing difficult in Canada I'm not sure if they don't use the stuff or if its just labeled as something else. But luckly I have heard from my American inlaws how Coke tastes different up here though, and I think it's 'cause Canadian soda doesn't have HFCS (nor do we have caffine in our Mountain Dew).
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wonderwoman
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Maddhatter wrote: It's just a sugar for gods sake. Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use.
If only it were. Your body doesn't know how to digest it like regular sugar. Why do you think us Americans are getting so fat?
Just finished 'In Defense of Food' this morning as a follow up to 'Omnivore's Dilemma'. Both great and eye opening reads on the food industry. I've certainly changed my eatin habits, and I thought I was eating pretty healthy to begin with!
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donald949
Sep 11, 2008, 10:44 PM
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granite_grrl wrote: Maddhatter wrote: It's just a sugar for gods sake. Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use. Its super, highly, highly refined sugar. Amoung other things I have read that it has similar effects as an appatite supressant (would you like to super size that sir?) and has mild addictive qualities (soda junkie?). Its pretty nasty stuff. Now, to make thing difficult in Canada I'm not sure if they don't use the stuff or if its just labeled as something else. But luckly I have heard from my American inlaws how Coke tastes different up here though, and I think it's 'cause Canadian soda doesn't have HFCS (nor do we have caffine in our Mountain Dew).
No Caffine in MD? How can that be, MD is one of the highest caffinated sodas. Well it was before all those energy drinks started coming out.
Now I'm more of a South Beach kinda guy. Low carb not no carb. Drove my triglycerides down from 340 to 106 mainly by diet, and a little extra walking. So thats why I don't like the HFCS. So I started reading labels, and it freaking everywhere. Everywhere. Since it comes from corn, my understanding is that why its refined more, have to break down all the starches to sugars. I guess that could make it harder to digest, but couldn't say for sure.
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stymingersfink
Sep 11, 2008, 10:45 PM
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wonderwoman wrote: Maddhatter wrote: It's just a sugar for gods sake. Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use. If only it were. Your body doesn't know how to digest it like regular sugar. Why do you think us Americans are getting so fat? Just finished 'In Defense of Food' this morning as a follow up to 'Omnivore's Dilemma'. Both great and eye opening reads on the food industry. I've certainly changed my eatin habits, and I thought I was eating pretty healthy to begin with!
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
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knieveltech
Sep 11, 2008, 10:48 PM
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rtwilli4 wrote: So... what do you wear when the weather is good??
Leopard print lycra tights and a black t-shirt. Fucking awesome.
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sungam
Sep 11, 2008, 10:55 PM
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knieveltech wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: So... what do you wear when the weather is good?? Leopard print lycra tights and a black t-shirt. Fucking awesome.
I guess I'll know you if I see you when I'm over there.
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wonderwoman
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stymingersfink wrote: wonderwoman wrote: Maddhatter wrote: It's just a sugar for gods sake. Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use. If only it were. Your body doesn't know how to digest it like regular sugar. Why do you think us Americans are getting so fat? Just finished 'In Defense of Food' this morning as a follow up to 'Omnivore's Dilemma'. Both great and eye opening reads on the food industry. I've certainly changed my eatin habits, and I thought I was eating pretty healthy to begin with! Um.. cause so many lazy fat fucks don't know when to quit eating, let alone do something/anything to get off their fat asses and raise their heart rate doing something physical? Yeah, that's what I thought too.
That, too. But childhood obesity and diabetes is scary and not as easily dismissed. With all that energy, kids should be able to burn off calories and that's just not the case anymore.
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knieveltech
Sep 11, 2008, 11:06 PM
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sungam wrote: knieveltech wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: So... what do you wear when the weather is good?? Leopard print lycra tights and a black t-shirt. Fucking awesome. Hell yeah man! I guess I'll know you if I see you when I'm over there.
Maybe so. If the weather is crap I'm dressed like everyone else though so don't count on it. When you headed over and where are you planning to climb?
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donald949
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rtwilli4 wrote: Hey someone got it right... I fly from NY to Bangkok to London... sometimes I come back to the states, sometimes I don't. The way I see it, those flights are gonna happen whether I'm on them or not. That is not the case with my driving habits. If we are really getting technical here... I don't use much electricity in Thailand (5 or 6 months per year), and don't create nearly as much trash as I would here. I don't consume anything there other than fresh food. I could go on....
Well, you're looking at it from a micro economics supply side view. While true, that flight was going to happen with or with out you, you really need to look at it from demand side point of view. Your booking a ticket created a demand for one more seat, taken with everyone elses all year long, created the demand for the flight to be regularly scheduled. Now if more people asked the question, should I really take that flight and decided not to? The demand for that flight would deminish, and the number of daily and weekly flights drop, and the consumtion of the jet fuel drop. I'm not saying don't fly, but rather you need to think of it from a demand side and part of your impact.
Now, where your thought would work, is if your bud was going to drive on vacation to go climbing, with or with out you, period. And he needed a partner and wanted you to come along so he didn't have to spend half his days looking for partners. Then the supply side reasoning works. You going does not create an increase in demand for fuel use.
Otherwise, good on you for keeping your use of fuels and electricity low.
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stymingersfink
Sep 11, 2008, 11:15 PM
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wonderwoman wrote: stymingersfink wrote: wonderwoman wrote: Maddhatter wrote: It's just a sugar for gods sake. Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use. If only it were. Your body doesn't know how to digest it like regular sugar. Why do you think us Americans are getting so fat? Just finished 'In Defense of Food' this morning as a follow up to 'Omnivore's Dilemma'. Both great and eye opening reads on the food industry. I've certainly changed my eatin habits, and I thought I was eating pretty healthy to begin with! Um.. cause so many lazy fat fucks don't know when to quit eating, let alone do something/anything to get off their fat asses and raise their heart rate doing something physical? Yeah, that's what I thought too. That, too. But childhood obesity and diabetes is scary and not as easily dismissed. With all that energy, kids should be able to burn off calories and that's just not the case anymore.
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wonderwoman
Sep 11, 2008, 11:25 PM
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stymingersfink wrote: wonderwoman wrote: stymingersfink wrote: wonderwoman wrote: Maddhatter wrote: It's just a sugar for gods sake. Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use. If only it were. Your body doesn't know how to digest it like regular sugar. Why do you think us Americans are getting so fat? Just finished 'In Defense of Food' this morning as a follow up to 'Omnivore's Dilemma'. Both great and eye opening reads on the food industry. I've certainly changed my eatin habits, and I thought I was eating pretty healthy to begin with! Um.. cause so many lazy fat fucks don't know when to quit eating, let alone do something/anything to get off their fat asses and raise their heart rate doing something physical? Yeah, that's what I thought too. That, too. But childhood obesity and diabetes is scary and not as easily dismissed. With all that energy, kids should be able to burn off calories and that's just not the case anymore. um... x-box anyone?
Not every family can afford one of those. And those who can least afford it are the ones becoming obese. It's the crap in the food.
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Maddhatter
Sep 11, 2008, 11:28 PM
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wonderwoman wrote: Maddhatter wrote: It's just a sugar for gods sake. Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use. If only it were. Your body doesn't know how to digest it like regular sugar. Why do you think us Americans are getting so fat? Just finished 'In Defense of Food' this morning as a follow up to 'Omnivore's Dilemma'. Both great and eye opening reads on the food industry. I've certainly changed my eatin habits, and I thought I was eating pretty healthy to begin with!
All right I will bite. I will look into this more on my own. Thank you for shareing.
I'm am a sugar junky but I also work out alot as part of my job as a painter so I don't really gain alot of weight. But there is more to good health then just not being fat.
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stymingersfink
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wonderwoman wrote: stymingersfink wrote: wonderwoman wrote: stymingersfink wrote: wonderwoman wrote: Maddhatter wrote: It's just a sugar for gods sake. Like anything, To much is a bad thing but it's better then the 100 other things they could use. If only it were. Your body doesn't know how to digest it like regular sugar. Why do you think us Americans are getting so fat? Just finished 'In Defense of Food' this morning as a follow up to 'Omnivore's Dilemma'. Both great and eye opening reads on the food industry. I've certainly changed my eatin habits, and I thought I was eating pretty healthy to begin with! Um.. cause so many lazy fat fucks don't know when to quit eating, let alone do something/anything to get off their fat asses and raise their heart rate doing something physical? Yeah, that's what I thought too. That, too. But childhood obesity and diabetes is scary and not as easily dismissed. With all that energy, kids should be able to burn off calories and that's just not the case anymore. um... x-box anyone? Not every family can afford one of those. And those who can least afford it are the ones becoming obese. It's the crap in the food.
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this is what happens when someone starts a mildly on topic thread under the influence - massive drift. now we're debating high fructose corn syrup on a "general" climbing forum. insert profanity here ______. thanks interweb.
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