What if I told you there's a magic mental pill you could take to climb harder?

I'm currently refining the nuts and bolts of a mental training product for climbers that I've spent the last two years of my life developing, time spent sitting at the feet of gurus far and wide, learning their secrets, so I could finally bring them to the climbing community.

At long last, that day has arrived. Thing is, I need testimonials from people. So, I'm looking to trade this knowledge for testimonials, assuming you like the work, of course. Not sure what form this will take yet -- maybe a weekend workshop, maybe a few hours one-on-one. If you're interested in getting your mental game up to par, and possibly providing a video testimonial, please shoot an email to paborden (at) gmail (dot) com.

First, though, a disclaimer: by the end of our time together, you might have decided climbing's no longer for you. If you're willing to take that risk, email me anyway. Oh, and you've got to be in the Northeast to take part.

I'll also be glad to answer any questions in this post.

I should say, closest thing to a magic mental pill I've found yet. Not at liberty to go into too much detail here, apart from saying this is very revolutionary stuff. Interested parties, in the NE, especially in NYC, should contact me. I usually charge a couple hundred dollars an hour to do this work with people, so this is a golden opportunity for the open minded.

Strong werk by angry so far in this thread.

What if I told you there's a magic mental pill you could take to climb harder?

I'm currently refining the nuts and bolts of a mental training product for climbers that I've spent the last two years of my life developing, time spent sitting at the feet of gurus far and wide, learning their secrets, so I could finally bring them to the climbing community.

At long last, that day has arrived. Thing is, I need testimonials from people. So, I'm looking to trade this knowledge for testimonials, assuming you like the work, of course. Not sure what form this will take yet -- maybe a weekend workshop, maybe a few hours one-on-one. If you're interested in getting your mental game up to par, and possibly providing a video testimonial, please shoot an email to

First, though, a disclaimer: by the end of our time together, you might have decided climbing's no longer for you. If you're willing to take that risk, email me anyway. Oh, and you've got to be in the Northeast to take part.

What if I told you there's a magic mental pill you could take to climb harder?
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What if I told you there's a magic mental pill you could take to climb harder?

What if I told you there's a magic mental pill you could take to climb harder?

As a peculiar blend of hypnosis, tibetan buddhism, and the like, what I teach people is experience based and about as useful in print as "let me tell you the mechanics of crimping"...i.e. doesn't help.

Endorsements from a friend are easy to come by.

I trust if you're actually interested, and not just internet posing, then you'll PM me.

The product has not been completed yet. I haven't decided how I'm going to market it, or what form it will take (book, DVD, etc

Yeah, it's true, I'm not giving you any reason to. I totally get that my promises ring hollow right now and that someone not willing to discuss methodology in detail isn't taken seriously. That said, this is a public forum, and rc.com at that, so I'm not willing to go into depth here.

What if I told you there's a magic mental pill you could take to climb harder?

So, those who are curious, and who are willing to take a risk have PMed me. Those who want proof now are waiting. It really is that simple.

*sigh*

JT, I already sent you a PM saying I'd answer any questions you have in private. No need to be so angry about things.

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No, it's more like this.

Now there's a very useful instrument.

I like the units: fecal/sec.

Is that metric or imperial?

I'm not angry.

It would be a violation of the TOS if you were.

Universal

Useless device here. I’ve re-checked it several times and the needle is always pegged.

Useless device here. I’ve re-checked it several times and the needle is always pegged.

"Hey Jay,

Thanks for the response to my post. I appreciate the doubting :)

Anyway, next time you're out east, look me up if you're curious about what I do (other than the scam artist part lol).

Peter "



That was the PM. To me, "look me up" constituted an offer. If that wasn't obvious enough, to reiterate, I'd be glad to answer any questions you may have in private.

Thanks for your patience with this, guys. I'm notoriously bad about describing what I do.

Thanks guys, I've edited this post 'cause I don't need any more responses. Appreciate your comments (and flames)...all of it's been way useful feedback for me.

What if I told you there's a magic mental pill you could take to climb harder?

I'm currently refining the nuts and bolts of a mental training product for climbers that I've spent the last two years of my life developing, time spent sitting at the feet of gurus far and wide, learning their secrets, so I could finally bring them to the climbing community.

At long last, that day has arrived. Thing is, I need testimonials from people. So, I'm looking to trade this knowledge for testimonials, assuming you like the work, of course. Not sure what form this will take yet -- maybe a weekend workshop, maybe a few hours one-on-one. If you're interested in getting your mental game up to par, and possibly providing a video testimonial, please shoot an email to paborden (at) gmail (dot) com.

First, though, a disclaimer: by the end of our time together, you might have decided climbing's no longer for you. If you're willing to take that risk, email me anyway. Oh, and you've got to be in the Northeast to take part.

I'll also be glad to answer any questions in this post.


(This post was edited by paborden on May 26, 2009, 6:17 PM)

I have communicated with Peter on the private side a bit, and if anybody's interested, I'll put the contents here.

Well, Peter, it seems you have opened the door regarding making the content of pm's public . I have communicated with Peter on the private side a bit, and if anybody's interested, I'll put the contents here. If it's time to let it die, I'll leave it alone.

In other news, the genius of "the strong work of angry", is seen clearly in the edit to the first post. You are a wily veteran. Old age and treachery will beat youth and skill every time.

I might just take it to the pros and let them have it as their little secret for some time.

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it's generally much better working with people I don't know too well, better results that way.
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As a peculiar blend of hypnosis, tibetan buddhism, and the like

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difference between what I teach and quackery is that, as opposed to the hippie dippy, positive affirmation, bullshit that those guys teach, there's a system to my madness,

Another way to put it would be that if you've ever had one of those moments when you've been in the zone, there's a way you were carrying yourself

Another huge component of all of this is bran network functions and how, if one of networks 1-6 is being misused, symptoms will often appear in one's climbing. And this is very common. This misuse often stems from a traumatic event in childhood, which is very common in our society.

To give you an example, until about 15 years ago, a common practice amongst midwives was to cut the umbilical cord too soon, thus making a child's first breath painful -- a traumatic event -- and thereby slightly impede breathing going forward.

He's peddling a panacea. You can use the same technique to get laid more often, climb harder, and do whatever else he can think of that extract money from gullible people.

http://www.meetup.com/charmistry-philly/

Jay

Try selling your products elsewhere. You will be rightfully flamed here. You have talked about many things your system is not. You have provided no detail about what it is.

To give you an example, until about 15 years ago, a common practice amongst midwives was to cut the umbilical cord too soon, thus making a child's first breath painful -- a traumatic event -- and thereby slightly impede breathing going forward. One of many examples.


Be well,
Peter

Well, Peter, it seems you have opened the door regarding making the content of pm's public . I have communicated with Peter on the private side a bit, and if anybody's interested, I'll put the contents here. If it's time to let it die, I'll leave it alone.

I typically respect your opinion and paborden does sound like he's selling a bridge coated in snake-oil... but your subsequent emails crossed a line that he, as best I can tell, did not: publishing others' pms. Specifically, he published a message which he sent to you as an offer to discuss things further. It's pretty clear to me that this does not constitute "opening the door regarding making the contents of pms public." While he may be publishing an IM, it is the first IM he sent to you, and contains absolutely no sensitive information.

It's a big step from his publication of that message (which, again, is one that he wrote and sent to you) to your posting of a fairly extensive correspondence. You may think this guy's a snake-oil salesman, and frankly that's the obvious thing to think, given his posts, but you gave away the moral high ground when you tried to justify posting a bunch of private correspondence with the rationale that "he opened the door."

Public posting of PMs is not against TOS or forum rules. It's generally looked upon as bad forum.

remember kids, it's the internet and just like e-mails, private messages cannot be taken back once they're out there.