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drector
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My wife was really pissed at me yesterday. So pissed that I started thinking about the future of our relationship. Then I got this urge to climb free-solo. I really wanted to get out my agression and anger and I needed to get the adrenaline out of my system. The rock was calling to me.
It took me a few minutes to understand why free-soling had come to mind. I needed to feel strong. She had made me feel weak and out-of-control. Free-soloing that route would have made me feel powerful when I needed that feeling the most.
I didn't do it. I'm not a slave to my emotions. It was the first time I'd actually felt like doing it instead of just thinking about doing it which was interesting.
Dave
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mrtristan
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I had the same urge yesterday. I really wanted to solo. More because I wanted to be alone and on the rock than to get frustration out. I've soloed before, but am trying not to make a habit of it because I know I'll like it too much and would want to push myself: "Sure, that 5.6 I could definitely solo. That 5.8 looks good, too. And that 5.9 over there wasn't too bad..." Myself, I'd definitely avoid soloing as a means of venting anger or frustration, and recommend it only if everything is feeling right. Kudos to you for not giving in to the beast!
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jelliott
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Some people have done their best soloing while in the grasp of emotional distress... not that i am advocating soloing but if that is what floats your boat.
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Aug 2, 2005, 5:54 PM
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In reply to: It took me a few minutes to understand why free-soling had come to mind. I needed to feel strong. She had made me feel weak and out-of-control. Free-soloing that route would have made me feel powerful when I needed that feeling the most.
Interesting. It makes me wonder how many women are driven to free solo by this type of situation. Wasn't there an issue in Climbing or Rock and Ice about stories of broken relationships driving men to free solo? I just can't recall hearing stories about women going this route. But I guess you're not alone, right?
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Aug 2, 2005, 5:54 PM
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"Marge, I'm tired of being a wannbee league-bowler...I want to be a League Bowler!!"
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In reply to: Wonderwoman wrote: Interesting. It makes me wonder how many women are driven to free solo by this type of situation. Wasn't there an issue in Climbing or Rock and Ice about stories of broken relationships driving men to free solo? I just can't recall hearing stories about women going this route. But I guess you're not alone, right?
Not sure if it's because were guys, but I know for sure in my case thoughts of free soloing are from my self-destructive tendencies, especially after a relationship or possible relationship doesn't work out.
So far I haven't given in to those tendencies to free solo, because friends have talked me out of doing it. And just for clarification, I'm not suicidal :wink:
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In reply to: My wife was really pissed at me yesterday. So pissed that I started thinking about the future of our relationship. Then I got this urge to climb free-solo. I really wanted to get out my agression and anger and I needed to get the adrenaline out of my system. The rock was calling to me. It took me a few minutes to understand why free-soling had come to mind. I needed to feel strong. She had made me feel weak and out-of-control. Free-soloing that route would have made me feel powerful when I needed that feeling the most. I didn't do it. I'm not a slave to my emotions. It was the first time I'd actually felt like doing it instead of just thinking about doing it which was interesting. Dave
Referred to climbsomething for the DURRRation of the thread.
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Aug 2, 2005, 7:02 PM
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Anger brings out the best free soloing out of poeple. I had a friend who left his rack at the top of route while he rapelled. He helped his friend rapel then was going to climb back up and get it. at the bottom they see some kids look over the edge at them, then they hear "clip, clip" and the anchor falls over the edge. He hears his rack being moved around, and solos up a 40 ft 5.8 and attempts to chase them, but couldnt with his climbing shoes on.
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zozo
Aug 2, 2005, 7:16 PM
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In reply to: Anger brings out the best free soloing out of poeple. I had a friend who left his rack at the top of route while he rapelled. He helped his friend rapel then was going to climb back up and get it. at the bottom they see some kids look over the edge at them, then they hear "clip, clip" and the anchor falls over the edge. He hears his rack being moved around, and solos up a 40 ft 5.8 and attempts to chase them, but couldnt with his climbing shoes on.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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billcoe_
Aug 2, 2005, 7:56 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Anger brings out the best free soloing out of poeple. I had a friend who left his rack at the top of route while he rapelled. He helped his friend rapel then was going to climb back up and get it. at the bottom they see some kids look over the edge at them, then they hear "clip, clip" and the anchor falls over the edge. He hears his rack being moved around, and solos up a 40 ft 5.8 and attempts to chase them, but couldnt with his climbing shoes on. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Probably a good thing he didn't catch up with them, they all would have been laughing at his shoes! Oh the humiliation!
hahahaha :lol:
Side note: I'm not sure free soloing while pissed is a good thing.
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climbsomething
Aug 2, 2005, 8:01 PM
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I get out aggression by flaming n00bs and gumbies. Not only is this fun but it's safe!
But I'm not even pissed off right now. There's just so many stupid asses. It's like that scene in the new Dawn of the Dead where they're picking off zombies from the rooftops... crack crack crack.
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Aug 2, 2005, 8:01 PM
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In reply to: My wife was really pissed at me yesterday. So pissed that I started thinking about the future of our relationship. Then I got this urge to climb free-solo. I really wanted to get out my agression and anger and I needed to get the adrenaline out of my system. The rock was calling to me. It took me a few minutes to understand why free-soling had come to mind. I needed to feel strong. She had made me feel weak and out-of-control. Free-soloing that route would have made me feel powerful when I needed that feeling the most. I didn't do it. I'm not a slave to my emotions. It was the first time I'd actually felt like doing it instead of just thinking about doing it which was interesting. Dave
then you are climbing for all the wrong reasons!!!!!!!
adrenaline WILL kill you....it makes you lose your focus and in a free-solo you need your mental zen to be pure and calm.......
go boulder or go to a gym and work out if your frustrated, keep yourself and your blood off the rock because other people want to climb for better reasons
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Aug 2, 2005, 8:17 PM
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In reply to: My wife was really pissed at me yesterday. So pissed that I started thinking about the future of our relationship. Then I got this urge to climb free-solo. I really wanted to get out my agression and anger and I needed to get the adrenaline out of my system. The rock was calling to me. It took me a few minutes to understand why free-soling had come to mind. I needed to feel strong. She had made me feel weak and out-of-control. Free-soloing that route would have made me feel powerful when I needed that feeling the most. I didn't do it. I'm not a slave to my emotions. It was the first time I'd actually felt like doing it instead of just thinking about doing it which was interesting. Dave
So I wonder if you're suicidal or just motivated by anger. Anger can do nothing but distract you from reality. I don't see how that can possibly make you any safer or more focussed while free soloing. Personally, I'd go for a run instead and leave the ropeless fun for when my head is clear. The way my feeble mind works is that I'd end up getting pissed, soloing something harder than what I normally would solo cuz I'm pissed and can do anything, snap out of my fit of rage mid climb, begin to feel guilty about any horrible thing that was said between me and who ever, lose concentration, fall to my death. I guess it works for some but even a bad day at work throws off my climbing. Everyone is different though.
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Aug 2, 2005, 8:22 PM
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In reply to: I get out aggression by flaming n00bs and gumbies. Not only is this fun but it's safe! But I'm not even pissed off right now. There's just so many stupid asses. It's like that scene in the new Dawn of the Dead where they're picking off zombies from the rooftops... crack crack crack.
i'm so glad i can vote today
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zozo
Aug 2, 2005, 8:26 PM
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In reply to: My wife was really pissed at me yesterday. So pissed that I started thinking about the future of our relationship. Then I got this urge to go to the post office and blow some people away. I really wanted to get out my agression and anger and I needed to get the adrenaline out of my system. The post office was calling to me. It took me a few minutes to understand why the post office had come to mind. I needed to feel strong. She had made me feel weak and out-of-control. Blasting shit up at that post office would have made me feel powerful when I needed that feeling the most. I didn't do it. I'm not a slave to my emotions. It was the first time I'd actually felt like doing it instead of just thinking about doing it which was interesting.
I just wanted to see if I could do it and have it still ring true.
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blitzkrieg_climber13
Aug 2, 2005, 9:06 PM
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i wanna try soloing but i definitely wont do it when im pissed. i make to many stupid decisions.
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Aug 2, 2005, 9:54 PM
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In reply to: then you are climbing for all the wrong reasons!!!!!!! adrenaline WILL kill you....it makes you lose your focus and in a free-solo you need your mental zen to be pure and calm.......
Adrenaline and strong emotion "can" cause people to loose focus some times. But I think it's important to realize it's not inevitiable. Adrenaline and strong emotions can also enhance focus (because there is more "energy" avialable). To me the ability to focus is a skill that can be practiced independent of emotional state. For me it's not emotions that cause loss of focus it's preconceptions about emotions or what "should" be happening that interfer with focus. To me trying to stay calm is a distraction staying focused regardless of wheather I am calm or not is the point and generally brings a certian kind of peace.
Anyway I'm not blanketly agianst people soloing when they are emotional. I think it's probably a horrible idea for some people and may be a reasonable practice for others. Being mistaken about how you deal with emotions/fear while free soloing can be a very bad thing however.
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I don't care about dying, cause dying would be a stone groove. Sometimes you can't ignore the lure of the flaco.
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Aug 2, 2005, 10:39 PM
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In reply to: I get out aggression by flaming n00bs and gumbies. Not only is this fun but it's safe! But I'm not even pissed off right now. There's just so many stupid asses. It's like that scene in the new Dawn of the Dead where they're picking off zombies from the rooftops... crack crack crack.
dear god, but you're a spoiled little brat aren't you? half of the posts i see from you are simply cutting people up, are you really that much better than all these people?
re-read this guys post. take it at face value as someone trying to understand emotion and climbing, then try to figure out why you need to make a pointless comment about it.
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Aug 2, 2005, 10:48 PM
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Last weekend, I soloed Royal Arches twice, as well as some stuff at Church Bowl, and I wasn't pissed at anyone. It was almost enjoyable.
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In reply to: dear god, but you're a spoiled little brat aren't you? half of the posts i see from you are simply cutting people up, are you really that much better than all these people?
In reply to: re-read this guys post. take it at face value as someone trying to understand emotion and climbing, then try to figure out why you need to make a pointless comment about it. |
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In reply to: In reply to: It's like that scene in the new Dawn of the Dead where they're picking off zombies from the rooftops... crack crack crack. Shaun of the Dead is better, you stupid wanker. |
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In reply to: In reply to: My wife was really pissed at me yesterday. So pissed that I started thinking about the future of our relationship. Then I got this urge to go to the post office and blow some people away. I really wanted to get out my agression and anger and I needed to get the adrenaline out of my system. The post office was calling to me. It took me a few minutes to understand why the post office had come to mind. I needed to feel strong. She had made me feel weak and out-of-control. Blasting s--- up at that post office would have made me feel powerful when I needed that feeling the most. I didn't do it. I'm not a slave to my emotions. It was the first time I'd actually felt like doing it instead of just thinking about doing it which was interesting. I just wanted to see if I could do it and have it still ring true.
zozo you magnificent bastard!
effing genius.
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Dave,
Just out of curiousity, was your argument with your wife about, say, climbing? 8^)
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