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derk424
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when are u rdy to start lead climbing, the gym i currently attend offers a course to teach all the ins and out about the technical stuff/safety procedure but im not sure if im ready. Atm im climbing 5.9s easily and struggle on the 5.10s. The only thing is that the course is only offered once a month so wanted to get some experienced climbers' opinions before i take the plunge lol
thanks guys
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curt
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derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing...
not til u kan reed and rite.
Curt
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derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing, the gym i currently attend offers a course to teach all the ins and out about the technical stuff/safety procedure but im not sure if im ready. Atm im climbing 5.9s easily and struggle on the 5.10s. The only thing is that the course is only offered once a month so wanted to get some experienced climbers' opinions before i take the plunge lol thanks guys
How could taking the course be bad?
Just take it.
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Sep 30, 2008, 5:10 AM
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curt wrote: derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing... not til u kan reed and rite. Curt
respect my bro or else
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derk424
Sep 30, 2008, 5:24 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: curt wrote: derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing... not til u kan reed and rite. Curt respect my bro or else
thanks for ur time
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derk424 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: curt wrote: derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing... not til u kan reed and rite. Curt respect my bro or else i just don't understand why some of you guys are so harsh on these threads. You turn off so many people to a sport thats really awesome and allows you to push your self to the limit in alot of aspects. and then you complain when people mess up your routes or annoy you when your out climbing, thats exactly why i asked the question here so i can be more knowledgeable out there, mind you i dont expect to learn everything from reading the core is just experience but all help is greatly appreciated. thanks for ur time
Do not worry about this jerk named " curt "
please continue and share your thoughts
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derk424 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: curt wrote: derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing... not til u kan reed and rite. Curt respect my bro or else i just don't understand why some of you guys are so harsh on these threads. You turn off so many people to a sport thats really awesome and allows you to push your self to the limit in alot of aspects. and then you complain when people mess up your routes or annoy you when your out climbing, thats exactly why i asked the question here so i can be more knowledgeable out there, mind you i dont expect to learn everything from reading the core is just experience but all help is greatly appreciated. thanks for ur time
When you don't sound like a total retard you may just get a response in kind.
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majid_sabet wrote: derk424 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: curt wrote: derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing... not til u kan reed and rite. Curt respect my bro or else i just don't understand why some of you guys are so harsh on these threads. You turn off so many people to a sport thats really awesome and allows you to push your self to the limit in alot of aspects. and then you complain when people mess up your routes or annoy you when your out climbing, thats exactly why i asked the question here so i can be more knowledgeable out there, mind you i dont expect to learn everything from reading the core is just experience but all help is greatly appreciated. thanks for ur time Do not worry about this jerk named " curt " please continue and share your thoughts
Careful there, Fruit Sorbet.
Curt
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curt wrote: derk424 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: curt wrote: derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing... not til u kan reed and rite. Curt respect my bro or else i just don't understand why some of you guys are so harsh on these threads. You turn off so many people to a sport thats really awesome and allows you to push your self to the limit in alot of aspects. and then you complain when people mess up your routes or annoy you when your out climbing, thats exactly why i asked the question here so i can be more knowledgeable out there, mind you i dont expect to learn everything from reading the core is just experience but all help is greatly appreciated. thanks for ur time When you don't sound like a total retard you may just get a response in kind. Curt
Don't worry Curt... I laughed 
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hyongx
Sep 30, 2008, 5:45 AM
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how many profiles does majid have?
probably 10 or so
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i'd say to go ahead and do it, unless there's something you'd lose doing it now rather than in a few months? if you do the course, learn what you need to learn, but don't put it into practice until you're ready there's no harm, i reckon.
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spoon
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It has been my experience, as someone who has taught lead climbing in a gym setting, that experienced climbers get more out of such classes. If you are a beginner, and it sounds like you are, then you'll effectively be trying to learn to lead while you are trying to learn good technique. Do yourself a favor and focus on one. Also, how many 5.9s does your gym have to lead? Is it worth spending the time and money to learn to lead if your gym only has two lead routes within your ability? That said, if you've been styling 5.9s for years, and 5.10s are out of reach for strength reasons and not a lack of technique than take the class, but that doesn't sound like what's going on here.
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hyongx wrote: how many profiles does majid have? probably 10 or so
only one ID and that is the truth
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majid_sabet wrote: hyongx wrote: how many profiles does majid have? probably 10 or so only one ID and that is the truth
How many split personalities that have their own logins?
Curt
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blueeyedclimber
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spoon wrote: It has been my experience, as someone who has taught lead climbing in a gym setting, that experienced climbers get more out of such classes. If you are a beginner, and it sounds like you are, then you'll effectively be trying to learn to lead while you are trying to learn good technique. Do yourself a favor and focus on one. Also, how many 5.9s does your gym have to lead? Is it worth spending the time and money to learn to lead if your gym only has two lead routes within your ability? That said, if you've been styling 5.9s for years, and 5.10s are out of reach for strength reasons and not a lack of technique than take the class, but that doesn't sound like what's going on here.
Learning to lead is not a number thing. If you have lead climbs at your ability level in your gym, then why not take the class. I usually think it's better to have been climbing for about a year, but I have taught people who have been climbing a few months. Learning to lead is more about technical knowledge, decision making/judgement, risk management and your ability to be aware of your surroundings. It is impossible for us to tell if you're ready, since we don't know you. Some people pick it up very quickly and some people should probably never lead.
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derk424 or derka derka derka
let me tell u that u nevern eed course for that if u stand beneath a climb and size it accordingly and be true to urself u will be fine.
the rock will lead u, u dont lead rock.
please understand.
curt are u still hangin in the pacific pretending to know your sh*t or u want to keep smokin it for jeez
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Does your gym offer a technique class, too? Take that one, first.
As far as lead-climbing class, how hard you are able to climb is not an issue before taking a lead class-- unless your gym doesn't have anything easier than 5.10 on the lead routes.
You should be able to climb at least some routes on the lead wall easily before you try to learn to lead on the same wall, which is why some gyms say that you should be able to climb at least 5.X before taking the class.
Also, if you are not planning on climbing outside anytime soon, lead clas would be of rather limited use to you.
Best thing would be to talk to the person who is offering the class, explain your situation and your goals, and ask his opinion on whether the class would be useful for you right now, or whether it would be better to wait.
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spoon wrote: That said, if you've been styling 5.9s for years, and 5.10s are out of reach for strength reasons and not a lack of technique than take the class, but that doesn't sound like what's going on here.
To the OP: its good to get into leading earlier, but spoon was absolutly right, you have to set aside time for movement practice and keep advancing on your technique. I'm a little dubious about how much you learn from a lead course in a gym, but it probobly wouldn't hurt.
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Sep 30, 2008, 2:17 PM
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You'll know when you're ready.
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majid_sabet wrote: curt wrote: derk424 wrote: when are u rdy to start lead climbing... not til u kan reed and rite. Curt respect my bro or else
DDT PMed
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Sep 30, 2008, 2:28 PM
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Aceto wrote: derk424 or derka derka derka let me tell u that u nevern eed course for that if u stand beneath a climb and size it accordingly and be true to urself u will be fine. the rock will lead u, u dont lead rock. please understand.
Yeah, please understand, he's talking about a lead class in a gym.
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derk424 wrote: You turn off so many people to a sport thats really awesome and allows you to push your self to the limit in alot of aspects.
EXCELLENT!
EXCELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENT!
Your plan must be working curt.
DMT
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derk424
Sep 30, 2008, 3:02 PM
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thanks for the responses guys and i think ill just wait till december to take the course since im still learning how to use and conserve energy efficiently/the different way to shift my weight and how to apply proper footwork and awareness. Plus my grip still needs more work cuz on the 5.10s i find my grip dying on some crimps, especially at some of the cruz moments of the course.
over the last month i started focusing on bouldering more and its really helped so ill just keep that up till i can get those 5.10s done on the top rope with ease.
ty again for ur time
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Well, on the one hand, if you're going to get turned off based on one response on a semi-anonymous internet forum, maybe a sport that allows you to "push your self [sic] to the limit" isn't for you...
Back on topic, though? You could benefit from the class right now - providing that (as blueeyedclimber mentioned above) there are enough routes at your level that you could lead in your gym - or better, you have someone experienced to help you translate what you've learned to real rock. If all the (gym) lead routes are above your ability, spend a bit more time on top rope before you bother.
J
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