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nkane
Nov 30, 2008, 2:25 AM
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Of all the routes out there, which one do you think has been climbed the most?
High Exposure? Some trade route in the Valley? Whitney Gilman, something at Tahquitz? Something in the Alps?
In order to qualify, it would have to be a route that was put up way back in the day so it had a lot of time to get climbed (excluding more recently developed classics like Cat in the Hat or anything at Smith). It would also have to be at a moderate grade, with easy access and be close to large population centers. Let's restrict our discussion to roped routes for now, since it would be hard to compare to boulder problems. Obviously there's no definitive way to compare, but what do you all think?
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rtwilli4
Dec 1, 2008, 7:32 AM
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Well I've never even wanted to see the Gunks but I could tell you about most of the moves on High E... maybe that's an indicator.
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duncanlennon
Dec 1, 2008, 9:01 AM
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Ed Webster claims that Child's Play is the most climbed single pitch in NH, while Standard Route on Whitehorse is the most climbed route in NH. Either of these would be contenders for most total ascents, as they were first climbed long ago, are both quite easy, and are always crowded.
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rhythm164
Dec 1, 2008, 12:44 PM
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your mom
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hyongx
Dec 1, 2008, 12:50 PM
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I guess I would suggest the Bastille crack, in Eldo, as it is super-classic, but I don't know how much traffic it really gets.
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dynosore
Dec 1, 2008, 1:31 PM
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Something in Europe, where climbing has been around far longer, and climbing isn't considered a fringe activity.
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camhead
Dec 1, 2008, 2:04 PM
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Bachar-Yerian.
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dingus
Dec 1, 2008, 2:25 PM
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Jam Crack.
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sungam
Dec 1, 2008, 4:57 PM
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Any VS at stanage.
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keinangst
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Probably some route up the rice steppes in Asia. Those guys are pretty burly--barefoot with 50# sacks on their backs and the prospect of starving to death if they don't finish. FA probably around BC1000
That's the origin of the expression "sack up!"
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apeman_e
Dec 1, 2008, 6:07 PM
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5 gallon buckets at Smith.
IF there is no one one this super popular 5.8, then it must be midnight.
Ten people probably climbed it while I wrote this reply...
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nkane
Dec 1, 2008, 6:10 PM
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but a route like 5 gallon buckets has only been up since the 80s, I think. There must be routes that are just as busy that have been up for 70 years!
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dynosore
Dec 1, 2008, 6:19 PM
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How many have climbed and/or been drug up the Matterhorn? 10's of thousands I bet.
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nkane
Dec 1, 2008, 6:26 PM
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keinangst wrote: Probably some route up the rice steppes in Asia. Those guys are pretty burly--barefoot with 50# sacks on their backs and the prospect of starving to death if they don't finish. FA probably around BC1000 That's the origin of the expression "sack up!"
Wow I didn't know about this - tell us more!
I know there are references to Alexander the Great's army climbing walls in Pakistan as well, but I don't get the sense those climbs were much repeated.
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i_h8_choss
Dec 1, 2008, 6:26 PM
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nkane wrote: Of all the routes out there, which one do you think has been climbed the most? High Exposure? Some trade route in the Valley? Whitney Gilman, something at Tahquitz? Something in the Alps? In order to qualify, it would have to be a route that was put up way back in the day so it had a lot of time to get climbed (excluding more recently developed classics like Cat in the Hat or anything at Smith). It would also have to be at a moderate grade, with easy access and be close to large population centers. Let's restrict our discussion to roped routes for now, since it would be hard to compare to boulder problems. Obviously there's no definitive way to compare, but what do you all think?
Double Cross in Jtree.
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hansundfritz
Dec 1, 2008, 6:33 PM
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Other ideas:
I would think it would be something really easy (but fun) at the Gunks like Three Pines, Minty, or Beginners Delight.
Seneca is another good candidate. How about Old Man's, Old Ladies, or Le Gourmet?
Probably too remote to see much traffic, but it has been around for a long time and is the easiest route to the summit of the Grand Teton: Owen-Spalding.
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reno
Dec 1, 2008, 6:35 PM
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nkane wrote: Of all the routes out there, which one do you think has been climbed the most?
Most individual people? Or more parties?
A team of two making an ascent of the Nose on El Cap counts as one ascent? A four person rope team on Mont Blanc counts as one ascent?
If it's total people, my vote is Hornli Ridge on Matterhorn.
If it's total ascents, number of people notwithstanding, then the Nose of El Cap.
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snowey
Dec 1, 2008, 6:38 PM
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Its probably going to be something on the West Coast given that most people don't climb in the winter on the East Coast.
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Gmburns2000
Dec 1, 2008, 7:16 PM
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reno wrote: nkane wrote: Of all the routes out there, which one do you think has been climbed the most? Most individual people? Or more parties? A team of two making an ascent of the Nose on El Cap counts as one ascent? A four person rope team on Mont Blanc counts as one ascent? If it's total people, my vote is Hornli Ridge on Matterhorn. If it's total ascents, number of people notwithstanding, then the Nose of El Cap.
I can't imagine how The Nose would lead this category, considering its difficulty and length. I have to think that a route like Horseman or Maria in the Gunks get more daily usage than the Nose does, but maybe that's a reflection of my ignorance of how popular The Nose is.
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petsfed
Dec 1, 2008, 7:16 PM
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apeman_e wrote: 5 gallon buckets at Smith. IF there is no one one this super popular 5.8, then it must be midnight. Ten people probably climbed it while I wrote this reply...
Or the day after Christmas. Or a bunch of other times of the year when nobody thinks to go climb at Smith (but the conditions are perfect for sending).
It actually doesn't get climbed that much. Its just that you go when all of the other people go to Smith. You can't be an elitist if you actually are just like everybody else.
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markc
Dec 1, 2008, 7:49 PM
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hansundfritz wrote: Other ideas: I would think it would be something really easy (but fun) at the Gunks like Three Pines, Minty, or Beginners Delight. Seneca is another good candidate. How about Old Man's, Old Ladies, or Le Gourmet?
As others have said, you have a few months where most east coast crags are seeing few ascents. I think that automatically takes them out of the running, despite being established a long time ago, and seeing a lot of traffic in season.
If we're talking Seneca, I'd have to say the first pitch of Old Man's sees a ton of traffic. You have people doing Old Man's, Conn's West, and West Pole all doing the same start.
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dingus
Dec 1, 2008, 8:22 PM
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OK, here's the answer, for America at least.
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camhead
Dec 1, 2008, 8:24 PM
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here are the amount of ascents recorded on rc.com:
High Exposure, Gunks: 180 ascents
Double Cross, Jtree: 170
Bastille Crack, Eldo: 161
Snake Dike, Yosemite: 101
Five Gallon Buckets, Smith Rock: 101
Roadside Attraction, RRG: 80
The Nose, Yosemite: 52
since it is not possible to search by ascent amount that I know of, does anyone know of routes in the database with bigger numbers than these?
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ahab
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AWOL & To Defy the Laws of Tradition @ the Red both have 107 ascents logged on RC.com. However, if I were to guess just by the amount of chalk on either, I would say at least 100,000,000 ascents each.
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